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11/20/25

Paul Articulates - Our time is coming


In a very thought-provoking post by RVH yesterday, there were several key points about the transformation of the Mets under Steve Cohen and David Stearns that have put the Mets on par with the best-run organizations in baseball.

On paper, there are many reasons why these Mets are not the same as the "old Mets" that always found a way to fail despite every improvement.  Yet the result in 2025 was exactly the same - the team that had such promise in mid-June finished with the downward momentum of an avalanche with a similar disastrous result.

How could this happen?

Of course, we all asked ourselves that question at the end of the season, but for a different reason.  We weren't thinking about the deep transformation of an organization that positioned itself for success, we were using traditional thinking to infer a championship from a successful start.  But despite all the conjecture, all the analysis by so-called experts, all the neat little stories built from cherry-picked data points, no one yet has really explained how the Mets of 2025 could collapse like they did.

The coaching staff was mostly obliterated in a symbolic move to assign some blame, but there have been no players or coaches speaking out to confirm that those eliminated were really to blame. 

So if the organization was doing all the right things and the coaches were pretty good and doing the right things and the players on the field were the product of systematic planning to build the right team then how could this fail?

This is where you have to acknowledge one piece of old-school wisdom that will always be true despite all of the advances in analytics and bio-mechanics that are transforming the game.  Baseball is a game of failure.  The best hitters fail in 7 of every ten at-bats.  The slickest fielders don't play errorless ball for a season.  The most talented pitchers only throw the ball in the strike zone about 65% of the time.

The best bio-mechanical analysis coupled with the most savvy coaching can train a player to perform better, but not perfectly.  A stretch of current state-of-the art training imagines that a mediocre hitter with a career batting average of .240 can be transformed into a .300 hitter with a 25% improvement in performance.  Even if that was feasible, the batter would still fail 70% of the time.  If three batters fail before a few succeed, no runs score in an inning.  Everything has to go right.

So there it is.  The reason the 2025 Mets failed is that everything didn't go right. 28 other teams can say the same thing.  In a parallel universe the same team may have won 95 games and won a pennant.  Next year will not be the same team, but based on the sound organizational strategy and strong talent pipeline the team should have an increased probability of success.  There is no guarantee in baseball.  The 2023 Dodgers won 111 regular season games and didn't make it past the division series.  Things happen in baseball that no one could predict because so many things have to go right to succeed.

My point in all of this is that Mets fans cannot control fate, but they should take heart that their team leadership is making the right moves to position the team to succeed.  This is very different than past leadership teams that did not have sound strategic plans. 

Talent, organization, and leadership are key factors in success.  Luck doesn't make you win, but bad luck can still make you lose.  Sometimes.  In the long run, fans will be pleased with how this plays out.  There are still many short term moves that need to take place to match the talent with the teaching and build the right winning culture.  Be patient, Mets fans, our time is coming.

20 comments:

  1. Yeah, yeah, yeah...

    Pigs fly

    Flap my ears and fly to the moon (Alice)

    I'm going to be 79. Had a tryout with the Mets in 1962. Fan from inception.

    TWO world championships... since 1962. Next season is 2026. You do the math.

    Now, you want me to believe that you won't... well, you remember the old expression...

    yada yada yada

    show me the money

    win... then invite me to sit in the stands next to Steve with my walker

    then you can stop selling me all the tea in Chyna

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  2. Paul,

    This was an outstanding build on my thesis. You nailed the piece most fans skip over: even when the organization gets the process right, baseball still lives inside a massive variance envelope. The 2025 Mets didn’t fail because the new system is flawed, they failed because probability didn’t break their way — something the Dodgers, Astros, and every top club deals with.

    That’s where your piece connects directly to my post. Stearns and Cohen have finally built the right engine, the kind that raises long-term odds. But even the best-run teams can look “same old Mets” in a one-season sample when the sequencing, health, timing, and luck run cold.

    Every move Stearns makes this offseason will be an attempt to “tune the system” to help reduce the annual variance range – the coaching changes are the first of many to come over the next few months!

    The key thing you said — and I agree completely — is that process compounds. If the underlying architecture is right, the results eventually show up. That’s the entire modern model of sustained contention.

    So thank you — thoughtful, sharp, and exactly the perspective the fanbase needs.

    Our time is coming, indeed.

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    1. RVH

      there are so many reasons why this team failed in 2025

      Some were

      Had to win one more game

      Never won once after trailing after eight innings

      Piss poor defense

      Injuries

      More Injuries

      Collapse of pitching

      Questionable pen decisions

      Flop of Vientos

      Flop of Mullins

      SHALL I GO ON?

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    2. Some of those are adjustments to make to this new approach - not all players adapt to new things. The movement you will see (and some already) is the purging of guys that don't "get it".

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  3. Paul, a worthwhile topic that still isn’t answered and a thoughtful premise on the overall game of baseball. But, the truth is harsher.

    When the Mets had the best record in baseball in June, yes much was going right but that much was in the mound. The five innings that a starter was giving before going for a shower and a job well done pat on the back was being finished by a bullpen that was able to finish because the bullpen had long men capable of multiple innings and short men that all did their jobs.

    As we touched upon the fact that the Mets had three players in FanGraphs’ top 15 offensive producers, we must look at the pitching and the defense. On defense, the Mets were third best at denying stolen bases. Their pitching staff had the tenth best fWAR and yielded the 13th least runs. But… from August 1st to year’s end, the Mets had the second highest BABIP against their pitchers at .312. Only Colorado’s .320 was higher, while the median was .287. Thus, the balls hit weren’t finding gloves. Too, the Mets were dead last in LOB% at 64% for that period; the mean was 72%.

    Finally, the Mets were right in the middle of MLB in BB/9 and xERA, while 25th in actual ERA and only 8th in HR/9.

    So, while we hear Stearns talking about run prevention, is it the players or is it the scouting and defensive placement of the players? We blame the players, while the numbers blame the strategy.

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    1. Sorry, but wake me up next November 1st and show me the results

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  4. (boy... what bug crawled up my arse this morning?)


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    1. You are quite “spicy” this morning.

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    2. Acting like I'm talking to the incompetent Beaufort SC/Savannah GA Vet Admin Clinics

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  5. This is exactly why I love this place – you can feel the full spectrum in one thread.

    Mack’s list isn’t wrong. There were a ton of concrete failures in 2025: late-inning no-shows, defensive lapses, pitching regression, injuries, pen decisions that didn’t work, young bats not taking the expected step. All of that is real and has to be owned.

    What Paul did in his earlier post was zoom the camera out: even when you fix a lot of the structural stuff, baseball is still a brutal probability game. The 2025 Mets could have been a 95-win team in a different universe with the same underlying decisions.

    Then Gus layered in a really important middle ground – the “run prevention” piece. That August-onward BABIP against, the LOB% crater, the ERA underperforming xERA… those things live in the gray zone between “bad luck” and “bad process.” Some of that is variance, some of it is execution, and some of it may well be scouting / positioning / usage strategy not being fully dialed in yet.

    To me, that’s the real story of where we are:
    • The old Mets didn’t have the organizational engine or the process.
    • These Mets finally have the beginnings of a real engine, but the run-prevention system (pitching depth, defense, positioning, usage) is still immature enough that when the luck turns, there’s no buffer.

    So yeah, Mack’s frustration is earned. But Paul and Gus are pointing at the same thing from different angles: if Stearns and Co. keep tightening the process around run prevention and development, the odds will eventually swing our way – even if 2025 was the face-plant version of that story.

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    1. IMO

      this only will work if they follow my "win in 2027 plan

      2027 plan:

      1B CLIFFORD 20HR
      2B BATY (25 HR) OR WILLIAMS (15 HR)
      SS LINDOR 30HR
      3B BATY (25HR) OR MAURICIO (15HR)
      C ALVAREZ (25HR)
      LF EWING (10HR) or MORABITO (10HR)
      CF BENGE (20HR)
      RF SOTO (40HR)
      DH NIMMO (30HR)

      SP SKUCAL
      SP McLEAN
      SP TONG
      SP SPROAT
      SP SCOTT
      SP WENNINGER

      RP ROSS
      RP LAMBERT
      RP GARCIA (PRAY)
      RP BANKS

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    2. Seriously, they are two/three years from that. Need to manage the bridge period.

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  6. RVH

    Don't agree on three years.

    Two is 2027... my plan

    2026 - wanna bridge? one year contracts... and Mexico will pay for it

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  7. Thought in Skubal - I’m behind in the “rumor” mill but if it’s true the dodgers are making a crazy play for him (send a star starter with a paid down (virtually all) contract, it is another sign that the dodgers will bend the rules for a young generational talent. Cohen & Stearns can’t let the dodgers keep leading with innovation within the constraints of the rules. They need to leapfrog.

    If this rumor has juice - Skubal will most likely move. If that’s true then you can bet the Mets will make a very strong play to get him. Outrageous even. Don’t know what it is but they are definitely at the table - right now.

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    1. RVH, there’s nothing the Cohens can do about it. It’s legal and creative… but, it’s only for one year. Skubal ain’t giving up the chance to listen to everybody else, ans Deteoit will still have Glasnow and Dodgers paying him.

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  8. You guys have been busy while I was sleeping :) I agree with most of these comments. I said no one could explain but some of you explained, but with reasons that every other team could also point out - including the World Champions of 2025. Things have to break your way, and beginning in June with a high toss to Senga covering they began to break the other way. The thing I didn't get into, but have discussed often with my "state of mind" posts is that if it goes poorly long enough, the demons in your head can prevent you from pulling out of the tailspin. That accounts for many of the other "reasons".

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