tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post1895220273663550149..comments2024-03-28T08:07:44.241-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: Richard Jones - Should the Mets use a permanent six man rotation in 2017?Mack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-4150043558627897802016-10-25T14:23:32.268-04:002016-10-25T14:23:32.268-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-75720420301958212016-10-25T14:22:49.022-04:002016-10-25T14:22:49.022-04:00I would not want it too regimented. Some teams cou...I would not want it too regimented. Some teams could opt for that approach.<br /><br />Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-17631056106014260092016-10-25T13:05:50.501-04:002016-10-25T13:05:50.501-04:00I think the success of a 6-man rotation depends on...I think the success of a 6-man rotation depends on the success of a 6-man BP. I don't think you should short yourself a position player and I don't thing you're going to go much over 100 pitches even on a 6-day.<br /><br />I've often thought about a strict 5-DAY (v. 5 G) rotation where if you get skipped if an off-day falls on your spot. Can't guarantee that would spread the rests evenly thru the rotation I suppose. Maybe that concept on a strict 6-DAY, with the skipped guy getting some BP assiment(s)? wdyt?Hobiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161607087964191500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-84069374169844695752016-10-25T12:00:41.311-04:002016-10-25T12:00:41.311-04:00Interesting. In the days of Gibson, Koufax, Seaver...Interesting. In the days of Gibson, Koufax, Seaver, Feller, et al, teams used FOUR man rotations and SPs routinely threw 200+ IP. The Indians, in their last WS champ year, had 4 20-game winners.<br /><br />And I'm sure there were many injuries, though we heard less about them, but it seems like the 5-man hasn't extended careers. I dunno what the 6 would do.bill metsiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07927989716664234035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-7941623798152485762016-10-25T12:00:33.476-04:002016-10-25T12:00:33.476-04:00Interesting. In the days of Gibson, Koufax, Seaver...Interesting. In the days of Gibson, Koufax, Seaver, Feller, et al, teams used FOUR man rotations and SPs routinely threw 200+ IP. The Indians, in their last WS champ year, had 4 20-game winners.<br /><br />And I'm sure there were many injuries, though we heard less about them, but it seems like the 5-man hasn't extended careers. I dunno what the 6 would do.bill metsiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07927989716664234035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-91825958341899946422016-10-25T11:42:48.718-04:002016-10-25T11:42:48.718-04:00Good Article... No to the DH...
Good Article... No to the DH... <br />Eddie from Coronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11721279332487207089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-13326442437727236352016-10-25T09:31:07.613-04:002016-10-25T09:31:07.613-04:00Great article Richard, I totally agree with the 6 ...Great article Richard, I totally agree with the 6 man rotation and raising the 25 man to a 27 man roster. Not only the Mets but all of baseball would be better off it went in that direction.<br />Now let's put in the DH rule in the NL!!!Zozohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328187548616168708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-62173111979660645692016-10-24T19:45:50.064-04:002016-10-24T19:45:50.064-04:00Great article. I like the 6 man rotation, and a 26...Great article. I like the 6 man rotation, and a 26-27 man roster. Do it. Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-39117609683013731262016-10-24T19:24:21.883-04:002016-10-24T19:24:21.883-04:00Niese is gone. Otherwise, many question marks rema...Niese is gone. Otherwise, many question marks remain, to wit: the Harvey, Wheeler, deGrom & Matz and whether their arms will fully recover from off-season procedures.<br /><br />Don't agree with 6-man rotation. Better to have 5-man rotation and rest an arm for a couple of weeks during the season, if the situation exists.Tommy2cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00770605594995497012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-80246026241198807242016-10-24T18:28:51.725-04:002016-10-24T18:28:51.725-04:00Mack
Thanks for the photo. I'm pretty good wit...Mack<br />Thanks for the photo. I'm pretty good with Photoshop. I should have thought of that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955526950279658176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-12160969737897064632016-10-24T18:12:53.514-04:002016-10-24T18:12:53.514-04:00There are always anomalies to every situation or s...There are always anomalies to every situation or stat. The question is was Bob Gibson an anomaly or a norm as far as pitchers who threw as hard, as effective, and how often he did. Sandy Koufax is an example in the other direction. He had elbow issues before Tommy John. I read it was and UCL tear but I also read it was arthritis. So I'm not sure. As a whole pitchers throw harder now than they did then and there are more UCL injuries now than there were then.<br />There are likely pitchers who would endure the innings that guys like Gibson and Ryan racked up but is it worth blowing out 3 quarters of your staff to find out what pitchers would survive.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955526950279658176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-35596601337271785762016-10-24T17:24:59.703-04:002016-10-24T17:24:59.703-04:00Richard -
Welcome.
Both -
The average amount ...Richard - <br /><br />Welcome.<br /><br />Both - <br /><br />The average amount of starting pitchers used by the 30 teams last year was 9+.<br /><br />Injuries always creates plenty of innings to go around.<br /><br />I could live a 5-man or 6-man rotation because it seems like this is the most talented position on the team. Get me one more quality back end reliever so all these guys will only be called upon to pitch 6 innings.<br /><br />Wow... I can't believe I just said that.<br /><br />Whatever happened to Bob Gibson?<br /><br />Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-44482429829654159862016-10-24T17:03:42.359-04:002016-10-24T17:03:42.359-04:00Your objection seems to be based on the six man ro...Your objection seems to be based on the six man rotation being a success. If our six best starters are successful and stay healthy what do we do with our 7th, 8th, and 9th starter. I don't have the answer for that but it would be a great problem to have. My proposal would have a fab five plus Gsellman. Colon a long man in the pen. That would be plan A. Even under a six man rotation I wouldn't put a 100% in being able to stick to it. So Colon in Lugo would still likely get some starts. If we find that the six man rotation works out perfect and no starter ever goes to the DL again I'm sure there are teams the would love to trade for Lugo and Ynoa. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955526950279658176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-11043152327762000442016-10-24T16:53:32.700-04:002016-10-24T16:53:32.700-04:00Welcome aboard, Richard.
The 6-man rotation has s...Welcome aboard, Richard.<br /><br />The 6-man rotation has some merit to it until people are off their innings limits. That could prove to be the entirety of the 2017 season. The problem is that if you have the so-called Fab Five, plus Colon, what then becomes of Lugo, Gsellman, and, to a lesser extent, Ynoa? Are they merely AAA insurance against injuries or do they get miscast as relievers?Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.com