tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post3758128204540762280..comments2024-03-28T17:57:21.603-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: Morning Report – 4-8-14 – Mets Ownership, ObservationsMack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-64526142048008243752014-04-08T18:49:15.967-04:002014-04-08T18:49:15.967-04:00Mike -
My assumption is nothing will be done as ...Mike - <br /><br />My assumption is nothing will be done as long as Selig is in charge. Then, after a fair amount of a timely manner (2015), both the Cubs and Mets will be told my the new Commish to up the anty.<br /><br />As for under-reporting profit and/or loss, there's a very simple process to prove that. It's called an audit.<br /><br />Now you just need to find someone to do it.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-7585447309952998472014-04-08T17:14:40.686-04:002014-04-08T17:14:40.686-04:00Great article Mack, it's hitting us all at the...Great article Mack, it's hitting us all at the same time. I want to specifically thank you for reminding people that the team is under reporting it's profits, due to the SNY deal. SNY is not paying close to market rate, but we all know who owns SNY.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05957636914395671600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-91079975069025915512014-04-08T15:14:41.604-04:002014-04-08T15:14:41.604-04:00I agree there is universality in Met followers'...I agree there is universality in Met followers' unhappiness. Many are the reasons.<br /><br />So what am I rooting for? I am rooting for them to somehow outperform early, and stay in this thing until the kids are called up and can help out with continuing the run, or a quick collapse that forces their hand to move out of the status quo. <br /><br />To stay in it, they'd need bullpen personnel to perform beyond expectations, a few hitters like duda to outperform (hey, if Chris Davis could do it last year, why not one or two of our guys?), and a huge dose of good breaks.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-48838145272491779792014-04-08T14:25:28.858-04:002014-04-08T14:25:28.858-04:00Thomas, Bob -
I don't want to keep debating ...Thomas, Bob - <br /><br />I don't want to keep debating something we aren't going to 100% agree on.<br /><br />There are so many reasons none of us are happy right now and one is the owner while another is (I give you this) the stadium. All of this would be just fine if the team was 5-1 and Travis d'Arnaud was leading the league in extra-base hits.<br /><br />You all are going to have a long a painful year, but I have the added job (burden?) of administrating a web site about this team. There is NO CONTENT out there to write about.<br /><br />I'm not sure right now what all our acceptance goals are. Are you still rooting for a 2014 pennant? Playoff slot? Mid-season trade? <br />Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-63117774675053231042014-04-08T14:20:15.798-04:002014-04-08T14:20:15.798-04:00Brian Berness · Seton Hall Law School
The problem ...Brian Berness · Seton Hall Law School<br />The problem is that the Major League owners don't want a real commissioner. They want a stooge like the used car salesman from Milwaukee, Selig. The days of a Pete Rozelle, Paul Tagliabue, David Stern type commissioner is over. As bad as he was, there will be no more Bowie Kuhns or Bart Giamattis either.... could you imagine a commissioner blocking a trade like Kuhn did to with Charlie Finley when he tried to sell Vida Blue, Rollie Fingers, and Joe Rudi in 1976?Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-9821458491818885672014-04-08T14:07:51.310-04:002014-04-08T14:07:51.310-04:00I will summarize my points. As businessmen, the d...I will summarize my points. As businessmen, the dimensions were previously, and still are, too deep, losing many homers that lessens scoring and excitement levels of fans for (let's assume) the same amount of wins. If the Yanks win X games and the Mets Y, and both hit 200 HRs, the attendance gap will be less than if both teams win X and Y, but the Mets look feeble compared to the powerful hometown rivals. And fans, especially newer undecided ones will have one more reason to gravitate to the Yanks.<br /><br />Our offensive players have long been inferior, and both my brother and I have less interest to go to a game than if they were bopping. Interestingly, the Sports network last night showed a Met-Cub season opener in Japan from 2000 - when I saw those Mets hitters again, I thought to myself with power hitters of that caliber, I'd be much more inclined to go, even if they did not win any more games. I mean, this team's HR record after 52 years in an anemic 41, a number Yanks' players over the years exceeded dozens of times - I rest my case.<br />I even believe the Mets' announcing has been dramatically better than the Sterlings and Waldmans and that helps the Mets build fan loyalty (many only go to a game or 2 per year) - yet the attendance gap is huge.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-8978714784636163482014-04-08T13:07:41.022-04:002014-04-08T13:07:41.022-04:00The field dimension is a bigger concern when it co...The field dimension is a bigger concern when it comes to attracting ticket sales.<br />If the front office/owners are not putting a winning team on the field, what will attract ticket buyers?<br />Like it or not, Offense will draw spectators.<br />Pulling the fences in to increase offense is a cheaper and faster way to increase ticket sales.<br />something that seems to fit the Mets operating plan....... not a good plan but ..... then again how many good decisions have there been over the past few yearsbgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-86912980147897208882014-04-08T13:02:13.776-04:002014-04-08T13:02:13.776-04:00by the way...
Atlanta is 2 games better at the mom...by the way...<br />Atlanta is 2 games better at the moment and they have 3 guys batting over .300<br />and none of their pitchers have an ERA above 3.00<br />and once again as i said<br />I am NOT saying the field dimension is THE problem<br />it is just one more reason (a much smaller part) to add to all of the disadvantages this team has that has eroded their confidence hitting<br />The bigger problem by far is the front office/owners deciding to begin a season with so many flaws on the team. The players notice this resulting in a lack of winning attitude in some or others that try to over-perform leading to injuries and less production<br />imagine if the pitchers did not have to worry about every single pitch resulting in one run the offense may never get back.<br />or batters that did not have to feel pressed to put a run on the board every time up because the rest of the line up strikes out or the bullpen will give away runs.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-38604777276636412552014-04-08T12:46:28.817-04:002014-04-08T12:46:28.817-04:00Mack
come on now.... how many times have we read t...Mack<br />come on now.... how many times have we read that a pitcher that is not able to control his off speed pitches will not be able to succeed in AA and above?<br />That infers that there are many lower level pitchers that are not able to control their off speed pitches.<br />hanging sliders and curveballs or sliders, curveballs, and change ups that are not strikes leads to the batter seeing more fastballs over the plate or better hitting countsbgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-62536298099324372242014-04-08T12:13:24.739-04:002014-04-08T12:13:24.739-04:00slumlord[ sluhm-lawrd ]
noun
1. a landlord who own...slumlord[ sluhm-lawrd ]<br />noun<br />1. a landlord who owns slum buildings, especially one who fails to maintain or improve the buildings and charges tenants exorbitant rents.<br /><br />So basically this fits our whole scenario. From owners(landlord) to maintenance ( sandy alderson/ wilpons) of our team, to us the fans(tenants).<br />They should make another movie based on all of us and call it slum lord billionaire.<br />Also I do love the stadium cause I would rather watch a pitchers duel. It's Aldersons fault he didn't build the offense to its dimensions. We need high OBP, Speed guys on the base paths and defensive wizards on the field (ala the 80's Cardinals). Not a team leading the league in strikeouts!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417539106053626522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-18450700475537527612014-04-08T12:13:00.096-04:002014-04-08T12:13:00.096-04:00Bob -
You're playing chess with me now...
O...Bob - <br /><br />You're playing chess with me now...<br /><br />Of course they are playing less talented pitchers. They are currently less talented hitters than who is on the parent teams.<br /><br />And your comment about fastballs is just not true. High school or even rookie ball maybe, but I sit behind home plate and track these pitchers. Your statement just isn't true.<br /><br />IMO, dimensions of a field is poor excuse. Some teams have more talent. Others find a way to win. Go look at the miserable batting averages currently on the majority of the Braves players (who, BTW, are 4-2)... Uggla .217... J Upton .182... Gattis .167... Heywood .130... B Upton .120<br /><br />Let's move on.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-31933863409535743872014-04-08T12:10:21.163-04:002014-04-08T12:10:21.163-04:00Mack
I am not saying that the size Citifield is TH...Mack<br />I am not saying that the size Citifield is THE reason for the Met hitting woes.<br />But<br />considering all of the other disadvantages they deal with during a season as a result of the front office/owners poor decisions and the fact they play in NY,<br />having a less cavernous home field would be one less drain on the hitter's confidencebgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-80563898966385459102014-04-08T12:05:43.177-04:002014-04-08T12:05:43.177-04:00But Nimmo, Boyd, and Plawecki are not facing pitch...But Nimmo, Boyd, and Plawecki are not facing pitchers like, or comparable to the pitchers that the Mets are facing.<br />Many of the pitchers they are facing in Greyson stadium will never pitch in the majors.<br />Additionally, Greyson stadium is just a stop along the way for them. The Met prospects will not play year after year in the stadium and many will not even play a full year before moving up to the next level.<br />Remember, most of the pitches that they are seeing are fastballs.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-81765724550723670572014-04-08T11:47:10.447-04:002014-04-08T11:47:10.447-04:00Bob -
The length of this field only comes into p...Bob - <br /><br />The length of this field only comes into play if you are talking about baseballs leaving that fied.<br /><br />There is no field known to man as being more hitter-unfriendly than Greyson Stadium here in Savannah, but players like Brandon Nimmo, Jayce Boyd, and Kevin Plawecki learned from past players to not try and hit the ball out, just hit to the gaps.<br /><br />Playing in the same field for 81 games should be an advantage, which obviously, the Mets haven't cashed in on. I put all this into the mental part of the game.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-6320423248827244692014-04-08T11:31:08.681-04:002014-04-08T11:31:08.681-04:00yes Mack
both teams do have to play in it
but
the ...yes Mack<br />both teams do have to play in it<br />but<br />the Mets have to play in it for 81 games<br />add this aspect to all of the other disadvantages the team is subjected to as a result of the front office/owners and the results are what we have been witnessingbgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-27231270369203101512014-04-08T11:23:30.245-04:002014-04-08T11:23:30.245-04:00Bob -
The size of Citi Field is a cop out.
Both...Bob - <br /><br />The size of Citi Field is a cop out.<br /><br />Both teams have to play in it. Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-57864674337702806552014-04-08T11:22:02.777-04:002014-04-08T11:22:02.777-04:00Thomas -
I've always considered this a very ...Thomas - <br /><br />I've always considered this a very simple game... you score one more run than the other team, no one remembers three days later how you won it. You just won it.<br /><br />I remember an old Dodgers team that featured guys like Ron Cey... all they did was hit a single, steal second, and score on another single. They won games 3-2 and everybody thought they were a great hitting team.<br /><br />Fred Wilpon, Jeff Wilpon, Saul Katz, David Lennon, Sandy Alderson, whoever... have decided that this team will represent itself with less than the going rate product. That was their decision and we, as fans and writers, have to live with that.<br /><br />It's getting hard to keep all this up. We're all getting tired of talking about the same thing. I have 14 other writers here and I don't have one original piece in the hopper. Everybody is moving on to more important things in their lives.<br /><br />I wrote this to get it off my chest. I may be wrong but my friend Arthur Pesner thinks I don't have the proper knowledge of finance. We're all getting a little worn out on this subject.<br /><br />Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-17772611313496257752014-04-08T11:18:36.943-04:002014-04-08T11:18:36.943-04:00Thomas
You are not alone questioning the size of C...Thomas<br />You are not alone questioning the size of Citifield. <br />Hitting is contagious and is all about confidence.<br />Every time a player hits a ball on the sweet part of the bat and it results in an out..... a bit of confidence is eroded, not just for the hitter, but also the team mates that witness it.<br />Definitely a contributing factor to the player stats and poor home record over the past few years<br />bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-72500034288306122762014-04-08T11:15:25.817-04:002014-04-08T11:15:25.817-04:00Arthur -
I didn't write the Mets profit and ...Arthur - <br /><br />I didn't write the Mets profit and loss statement... they did.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-72958010564910045662014-04-08T11:14:01.615-04:002014-04-08T11:14:01.615-04:00Arthur Pesner · University of Michigan
The $20 mil...Arthur Pesner · University of Michigan<br />The $20 million loss is only because SNY is paying far below a market rate to broadcast the Mets. A market rate would add AT LEAST $100 million a year in revenue to the baseball side of the corporate umbrella. It is a shame there is so little understanding of finance amongst the press.<br />Reply · Like · Follow Post · about an hour ago<br /><br />Dallas DeVries · Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute<br />If they havent done anything about Jeffrey Loria they certainly won't touch the Wilpons. I think its funny a guy like Cuban can't get into the sport but they let guys like Loria keep killing teams and embarrassing the sport.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-35025046755451621642014-04-08T10:54:50.213-04:002014-04-08T10:54:50.213-04:00Hey Mack, John, Reese and Bob
One other "bus...Hey Mack, John, Reese and Bob<br /><br />One other "business-stupid" point is the depth of the field. Homers attract fans, as does winning, and with the Bronx BOMBERS across town in a homer-friendly park, these dolts build the Grand Canyon - then invest in Jason Bay to hit there!!! I sent the Wilpons a letter, which I hope they read, that a 73 win team hitting 200 homers will have higher attendance (and revenues) than a 73 win team hitting 100 homers. Yes, you surrender more homers in a smaller park, but that is more than offset by your boys hitting more of them. Then Murphy leads the team in HRs with a deadball era 12 dingers.<br /><br />So the dopes come to their senses and move the fences in - but not far enough. it helps their hitters - but not enough. So Grandy has already hit a few that would have been homers elsewhere, but not here, so he is seen as struggling instead of off to a good HR start. d'Arnaud hits a long shot that would have been a game-winning 2 run HR - which would have thrilled the fans - but instead it is a long out, and he is now 0 for 15 and still feeling pressure to get off the schneid. if they had moved them in 5 more feet, it would have been a HR-neutral park, rather than still being a tougher-than-average place to compile homers throughout a season. Fans like HRs. had they put the fences in, from the start, at the depth I suggest, David Wright is a cinch for the Hall of Fame because over his career he'd hit 75-100 more at home. Now, he may just turn out to be a borderline HOF candidate. I could go on.<br /><br />Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-28176965815794125412014-04-08T10:13:03.801-04:002014-04-08T10:13:03.801-04:00I have to point out that these short-sighted, penn...I have to point out that these short-sighted, penny pinching decisions have had broader and longer lasting affects then just the Citifield roster.<br />1) as I have harped on many times before: the erosion of the fanbase and the morale of the fanbase <br /> that is still around (no trust)<br />2) a nomadic AAA team that has moved (is it) 4 times in the past few years(?)<br />3) players on the field trying to over-perform: pitchers feeling the pressure to do too much perhaps <br /> resulting in some of the injury epidemic Met pitchers have been experiencing. Hitters trying to <br /> do too much resulting in over swinging or too much stress at the plate. bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-76118749680455563692014-04-08T10:09:11.147-04:002014-04-08T10:09:11.147-04:00They might be slum lords in real estate, they are ...They might be slum lords in real estate, they are definitely slum lords with us!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417539106053626522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-78700120759386119422014-04-08T09:54:08.315-04:002014-04-08T09:54:08.315-04:00TP -
I don't expect Selig to do anything. I ...TP - <br /><br />I don't expect Selig to do anything. I just wanted to state the obvious.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-87433366090726967952014-04-08T09:47:43.496-04:002014-04-08T09:47:43.496-04:00They operate the team as if payroll is the only co...They operate the team as if payroll is the only component to saving money or generating revenue. Don't they realize that putting a competitive product on the field would spike attendance, advertising revenue and merchandise sales, more than paying for the cost of better players? Geez, a freshman business student would understand this much. How did they get to make so much money in real estate? Do they operate that business the same way?Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.com