tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post4165390254664458387..comments2024-03-28T17:57:21.603-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: Reese Kaplan -- A No Yo FutureMack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-72410913645766920482016-01-07T15:51:46.424-05:002016-01-07T15:51:46.424-05:00To me it was Darryl and Mike who I wouldn't mi...To me it was Darryl and Mike who I wouldn't miss an AB. Kingman only because he was our offense in the dark days and only us OCD Met fans cared. It looks to me as though it would behoove us as a franchise, knowing the disaster of long term 2nd gen. contracts, to use our good young talent until 2 years before FA and deal them for 2 or 3 top prospects avoiding the dreaded long term deal and restocking the farm. The FO probably won't ever spend big $$$ again and frankly its probably the best option anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674150694486256724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-50753561008493686552016-01-07T10:45:37.966-05:002016-01-07T10:45:37.966-05:00You are correct. However, I still think at minimum...You are correct. However, I still think at minimum cespedes gets a 100+ contract. If we had Michael conforto, the young cf and Juan lagares, the struggling lf, I would be right behind you and others advocating a cespedes or Upton signing. Current situation is more of a square peg, round hole in my opinion.<br /><br />Denard Span on the other hand...S. Finchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-43361928151000294042016-01-07T10:40:26.634-05:002016-01-07T10:40:26.634-05:00Finch
My response can not be made any better than...Finch<br /><br />My response can not be made any better than in many of the explanations you made regarding the 1st contracts.<br /><br />The question was not: Which players have ALWAYS received EVERY ONE of their big contracts and had it worth while.<br /><br />The question was: Simply. Give examples of when big contracts that worked out for the team.<br /><br />So, without researching, just off the top of my head, I came up with<br />6 examples you admit are great examples.<br />2 that you admit are debateable.<br />and 2 that you question, but the players performance can easily be used to debate your judgement.<br /><br />Cespedes is a different question.<br />Keep in mind also, just as you state that Cespedes is not in the same category as many of the above players, it is looking more and more likely that he will not receive a "top of the league" contract.<br /><br />It is looking more probable that Cespedes's contract will be for 4-5 yrs and possibly below $20 million/yr.<br /><br />Remember, Top of the league contracts are now pushing $25-$35 million/yr.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-77633611848485551842016-01-07T10:24:58.204-05:002016-01-07T10:24:58.204-05:00The problem with Yoenis is fairly simple. We need ...The problem with Yoenis is fairly simple. We need a cf, not a corner outfielder. Yoenis' has shown to be a terrible defensive cf. I would imagine the mets would live with his defense if he could hit like he did in 2015. However, 2015 is such an outlier offensively. If he returns to his offensive norm and plays cf, he would be a disaster. <br /><br />On top of that he is 30, has some (minor as it seems) attitude questions, and wants 25+ per year. Quite the gamble..S. Finchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-72261734504974743492016-01-07T10:05:27.456-05:002016-01-07T10:05:27.456-05:00Come on now Bob...lets take this one at a time…
N...Come on now Bob...lets take this one at a time…<br /><br />None of Adrian gonzalez, Buster Posey, Freddie freeman, or Mike trout are more than half way through their contracts.<br /><br />Miguel Cabrera. First contract was great, the extension has widely been viewed as a terrible decision. <br /><br />Braun no way, he has been awful and tulowitzki is debatable<br /><br />Ken griffey jr- obviously a great player and hofer, but the reds contract was a disaster. He was never the same player with the reds.<br /><br />Alex Rodriguez, Carlos Beltran, and Derek Jeter, Manny, pujols, great contracts.<br /><br />So from this we can conclude, signing a hall of famer (or close to it) before they hit age 30 to a big contract is a pretty good decision.<br /><br />Yoenis is not in the same league of player as most that you mentioned, and is considerably older than all the players whose contracts turned out good.<br />S. Finchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-26239847329313536072016-01-06T22:20:16.975-05:002016-01-06T22:20:16.975-05:00Mariano RiveraMariano Riverabgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-59088323166123426252016-01-06T22:15:33.387-05:002016-01-06T22:15:33.387-05:00Miguel Cabrera
Buster Posey
Manny Ramirez
Troy T...Miguel Cabrera <br />Buster Posey<br />Manny Ramirez <br />Troy Tulowitzki <br />Adrian Gonzalez <br />Mike Trout <br />Freddie Freeman <br />Ken Griffey Jr <br />Ryan Braun<br />Albert Pujols 1st big contract<br /><br />bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-40094230529484818212016-01-06T21:30:41.509-05:002016-01-06T21:30:41.509-05:00Derek Jeter's big contract.
Beltran.
Miguel Ca...Derek Jeter's big contract.<br />Beltran.<br />Miguel Cabrera. bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-56282829079628705542016-01-06T21:28:16.910-05:002016-01-06T21:28:16.910-05:001st Alex Rodriguez contract.1st Alex Rodriguez contract.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-11666626758241225462016-01-06T19:47:25.048-05:002016-01-06T19:47:25.048-05:00Saying you won't see contracts of more than 4 ...Saying you won't see contracts of more than 4 years at big bucks from the Mets is not necessarily a bad thing. It would take an EXCEPTIONAL player who really WANTS to be here and who has demonstrated his ability to deal with New York.<br /><br />Yo would meet the second part of that, but not enough of the first part. If he'd sign a deal like Gordon's, the Mets shouldn't hesitate.But no more than 4 years. <br /><br />I challenge anyone to look back 10 years and find long-term deals that have really worked for the team. I see Holliday, and probably Grandy.<br /><br />Nut then I see at least 10 that turned out to be total busts or two good years that turned into busts.<br /><br />Anyone? Metsiacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-3869710432007364182016-01-06T17:40:34.954-05:002016-01-06T17:40:34.954-05:00If Yo falls far enough, I'd sign him. It seems...If Yo falls far enough, I'd sign him. It seems the fall is underwayTom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-31432451509117911962016-01-06T17:39:58.996-05:002016-01-06T17:39:58.996-05:00Like it, Eddie.Like it, Eddie.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-3142759127869775182016-01-06T17:39:07.923-05:002016-01-06T17:39:07.923-05:00If Yo falls far enough, I'd sign him. It seems...If Yo falls far enough, I'd sign him. It seems the fall is underwayTom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-75996636146102565802016-01-06T15:32:22.557-05:002016-01-06T15:32:22.557-05:00@ICCFCI -- wow, major egg on my face. My bad. Da...@ICCFCI -- wow, major egg on my face. My bad. Darryl was indeed that kind of player.Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-58992142714338942672016-01-06T15:08:38.520-05:002016-01-06T15:08:38.520-05:00Ahhhhhh.
Now THAT is appearantly undeniable.
Ahhhhhh.<br />Now THAT is appearantly undeniable.<br /><br />bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-57330666346494581232016-01-06T14:55:27.490-05:002016-01-06T14:55:27.490-05:00We should offer a 1 year deal for 24 million and k...We should offer a 1 year deal for 24 million and keep the clause where we wouldn't be able to offer arbitration, this way he can go back on the market next year and he can establish his value with a team that is a WS contender...Eddie from Coronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11721279332487207089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-80364897371331245272016-01-06T14:01:26.502-05:002016-01-06T14:01:26.502-05:00How could you leave Straw man's name off the l...How could you leave Straw man's name off the list....excuse me??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436374512319436304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-23435324265914394512016-01-06T13:59:01.203-05:002016-01-06T13:59:01.203-05:00I should have clarified -- it's unlikely to se...I should have clarified -- it's unlikely to see sluggers getting long term deals FROM THE METS for the foreseeable future. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-33905606775260393222016-01-06T13:08:42.081-05:002016-01-06T13:08:42.081-05:00Respectfully disagree.
Economics of Major League ...Respectfully disagree.<br /><br />Economics of Major League Baseball is such that 5 tool outfielders that produce and are considered probable future "Hall of Fame Players", would receive contracts much larger than Cespedes will receive this off season. <br /><br />Cespedes will not even receive a contract that is at the level Heywood received this year.<br /><br />I don't believe anybody has been forecasting Heywood as a "Hall of Fame Player" yet.<br /><br />So, Cespedes' price will more than likely be appropriate for Major League Baseball's current economics, if not more to the bargain side due to the perceived lack of interest.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-81637479798277382302016-01-06T13:07:35.420-05:002016-01-06T13:07:35.420-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-74163028624024743412016-01-06T12:22:06.496-05:002016-01-06T12:22:06.496-05:00I hear you, Reese, but I still want Yo.I hear you, Reese, but I still want Yo.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.com