tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post528668668110251326..comments2024-03-28T17:57:21.603-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: The Morning Report 9.15.2015 | Terry Collins: Manager of the Year?, Yeonis Cespedes Looking Like Carlos Beltran, The Debate that Changed the 2015 SeasonMack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-8780310801909365872015-09-15T16:46:55.617-04:002015-09-15T16:46:55.617-04:00Just saying...
The way Alderson keeps ALL informat...Just saying...<br />The way Alderson keeps ALL information under lock and key, not a surprise others may not report.<br /><br />Either way though......<br />Super glad Cespedes is with the Mets.<br />Yay.<br />And good for Alderson to call the Tigers gm to make the deal.<br /><br />Some day, in a fee years the whole story will come out. Either I'll be right or wrong.<br />Doesn't matter right now.<br />Will matter less if Cespedes is resigned.<br /><br />Go Mets bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-4196077998041763952015-09-15T16:31:29.409-04:002015-09-15T16:31:29.409-04:00My reading of the article was that there was a deb...My reading of the article was that there was a debate amongst the baseball people, a decision reached, and that when SA was headed out the door to make the call, he asked Jeff to sign off on the deal.<br /><br />And Jeff said, "Go for it."<br /><br />I don't give Jeff a ton of credit for this, nor do I see a smoking gun as to exactly which man in the room had issues with Cespedes. Clearly, all of those negatives exist and were appropriate to discuss. Losing Fulmer, the low walks, the weak performance in Boston, etc. The point is that it was debated and a decision made. The right decision.<br /><br />I don't think it's fair to criticize Sandy on this one.<br /><br />James PrellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-14300541799171217632015-09-15T12:30:00.329-04:002015-09-15T12:30:00.329-04:00Joe
Sounds plausible.
But the writer (Klapisch) I...Joe<br /><br />Sounds plausible.<br />But the writer (Klapisch) I referred to is not a hack. He does not have a history of bad/questionable reporting.<br /><br />Yes it is possible that Alderson changed his mindset from what the history has been. A history he has proven time and time and time again.<br />It could be possible that not only did he change his mindset on the way a batter approaches hitting to be accepting of a hitter that embodies everything he has historically not been in favor of.<br />Heck it could also be possible that his mindset changed so drastically that he would not only support but also argue against others that were arguing what he historically supported in the past.<br /><br />All if that is possible.<br />Probably as possible as Klapisch's report not being accurate.<br /><br />By the way.... I was surprised to hear just now, NY radio hosts reporting that their sources pointed to Alderson having to be talked into Cespedes by Wilpon as well.<br /><br />Possible?<br />Not possible?<br /><br />I usually look toward history as signs of why things occur.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-90540958938064265472015-09-15T12:00:24.603-04:002015-09-15T12:00:24.603-04:00I am not buying that ONE article that Jeff pushed ...I am not buying that ONE article that Jeff pushed Sandy to make the trade. it was reported only once and not corroborated by any other NY media outlet, who absolutely drools over those types of stories and not a peep about it since YC turned into Godzilla, which seems inconceivable that at least one of the NY hacks would be hammering away at that story. the overall preponderance of evidence suggests that Sandy saw that now was the time and made all sorts of moves to upgrade, at the expense of minor league talent for rentals. he was also ready to part with Wheeler and Flores for Gomez, who did have one more year of control, but would have cost substantially more than YC. also bear in mind that YC has a higher career OBP and lower K rate than Gomez, so I don't see him excluding players based on a preconceived profile. My guess is that Sandy was reluctant to give up Fulmer for a YC rental (this was widely reported) but ultimately pulled the trigger at the last minute because he was out of alternatives, not because Jeffy pushed him to. Some writer probably made up a scenario based on their own narrative and used some level of reluctance to present a conflict that not one other writer has corroborated since. If it did happen that way, it would have been far more widely reported at the time and the beat reporters would be sticking it in Sandy's mush on a daily basis following every monster game for YC. He was willing to trade more talent for a player with less power, lower OBP and higher K rate, so I don't see that narrative holding water<br />Anon Joe FAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-81915997440814536792015-09-15T11:34:04.712-04:002015-09-15T11:34:04.712-04:00Regarding the NY Times article:
Cespedes low on b...Regarding the NY Times article:<br /><br />Cespedes low on base %, free swinging, and reluctance to trade young pitchers (especially for a rental)- doesn't that sound like Sandy Alderson's reasons to not want a player?<br /><br />With that in mind and the article written after the trade occurred stating that Alderson was reluctant and Jeff Wilpon needed to tell him to make the trade for Cespedes. .......<br />It seems like Alderson really was the person in the room that was not in agreement to acquire Cepsedes.<br />Most likely Alderson asked Jeff Wilpon one last time before making the trade as a last chance to get Wilpon to change his mind.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-68183542811964784692015-09-15T11:07:26.752-04:002015-09-15T11:07:26.752-04:00The Nats will lose enough games on their own to in...The Nats will lose enough games on their own to insure a Mets win for the division.<br /><br />What the Mets need to do is re-focus NOW on the Dodgers and keep the best lineup in the game in order to win home field advantage for that series.<br /><br />Everybody can rest all winter.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-56839979744246445532015-09-15T10:57:17.855-04:002015-09-15T10:57:17.855-04:00Maybe.
But I feel pretty sure that without Cesped...Maybe.<br /><br />But I feel pretty sure that without Cespedes the Mets would not be in a position to feel as comfortable providing rest to cut down on some of the young pitchers season workload.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-91374142921498072312015-09-15T10:55:34.490-04:002015-09-15T10:55:34.490-04:00They're leading the Nats but not by 9.5.They're leading the Nats but not by 9.5. <br />Bob Sugarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16509462696614464970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-22236471357492186132015-09-15T10:55:21.080-04:002015-09-15T10:55:21.080-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-49283469813127521452015-09-15T10:50:46.366-04:002015-09-15T10:50:46.366-04:00Without Cespedes, are the Mets trailing the Nation...Without Cespedes, are the Mets trailing the Nationals?<br /><br />James PrellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-76708583309928434842015-09-15T10:03:08.383-04:002015-09-15T10:03:08.383-04:00Morning.
It's been a long time since I follow...Morning.<br /><br />It's been a long time since I followed a team that had such a dominant hitter like Cespedes. <br /><br />There's a lot of great things that have happened to this team since the all-star break, but the Barry Bonds comparison probably sums it up perfectly.<br /><br />Cespedes has shows us that the field can tilt and the entire outcome of the destiny of one team can change with one player.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-34054046025802833312015-09-15T09:58:26.428-04:002015-09-15T09:58:26.428-04:00Need?
Don't need?
There's no way I would ...Need?<br />Don't need?<br /><br />There's no way I would want to go back in time and change anything to find out.<br /><br />D'Arnaud & Conforto's stars can shine and I'm sure they would be the first ones to say they are happy that Cespedes is out shining their brilliance, even if it leaves them in his shadow.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-41996858583698055622015-09-15T09:16:14.422-04:002015-09-15T09:16:14.422-04:00Really amazin to watch Mets games now, know that i...Really amazin to watch Mets games now, know that if they score first they're probably going to win. And if the other team scores first, the Mets are probably going to come back and win.......crazy....Ernest Dovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054861033443392454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-3870807821377806682015-09-15T08:59:42.123-04:002015-09-15T08:59:42.123-04:00Two things about the Cespedes deal. First, I had n...Two things about the Cespedes deal. First, I had no idea that this guy could play a credible CF, and to me that's been absolutely huge. Otherwise, they only traded for a guy to push Conforto on the bench. It's why I didn't understand talk of Jay Bruce.<br /><br />Secondly, some things have been obscured by Yoenis's unreal performance. It's been amazing. The question I can't answer with authority is this: How necessary has it been? <br /><br />Going into the trade, I thought the Mets needed another bat. I didn't think it had to be King Kong. I thought a normal Carlos Gomez would help, since it was important to get Lagares off the field vs. RHP. Obviously, the injured Gomez is no use at all.<br /><br />Anyway, Cespedes has earned all the praise. But in getting it, he's overshadowed spectacular performances by d'Araud and Conforto, the addition of Wright, the rise of Wilmer, the stunning quality of Familia, the arrival of Clippard & Reed, the clutch play of Johnson & Uribe, and the overall great hitting (and defensive flexibility) of Daniel Murphy.<br /><br />It could be argued that the Mets didn't need the insane level of performance that Cespedes gave them. OTOH, it could well be that his "star power" and "presence" finally gave everyone else the room to relax & thrive.<br /><br />Credit to Jeff Wilpon for saying, "Go for it." Or perhaps to Sandy Alderson for framing the debate in such a way that it left Jeff with only one obvious choice.<br /><br />James PrellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-19604992413391689192015-09-15T08:53:59.398-04:002015-09-15T08:53:59.398-04:00Terry Collins deserves manager of the year. I was ...Terry Collins deserves manager of the year. I was a past critic, but this club has such unity, he gets it.<br /><br />But...please Terry don't compare hike to Bonds. It might make him more expensive.<br /><br />Chris, the Beltran comparison is a very good one.<br /><br />Some say the best decisions are the ones you don't make. Nope, the best decision is one they DID make.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.com