tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post5548097793635457050..comments2024-03-28T14:09:20.907-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: The Morning Report – 1-2 – Ryan Jackson,Ben Zobrist, Brad Miller, Sean Gilmartin, 2006 ProspectsMack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-3224511528685138042015-01-03T02:46:40.167-05:002015-01-03T02:46:40.167-05:00I think Matt Reynolds deserves a shot. Both he and...I think Matt Reynolds deserves a shot. Both he and Flores can play multiple positions, so you could use them to spell Wright, Murph, and each other. I can't remember if Reynolds has any OF experience or not. At first, you split SS between them, with the other one spelling one of the other infielders, or available for pinch hitting, double switches, and whatever else they are needed for. Plus, we could release Tejada. He's become a man without a job and needs to go to another team. He may do fine in a smaller market.Steve from Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13317923693948342010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-85303025853116386922015-01-02T16:44:04.757-05:002015-01-02T16:44:04.757-05:00Trading for Zobrist---I believe you need to consid...Trading for Zobrist---I believe you need to consider the Ray's needs, if you're gonna make a real deal. It can;t be ONLY about guys yiu';re ok with losing.<br /><br />My hope for 2015 is that they would begin the season ready to compete FIRST...managing "player status"/super 2 as a secondary thing. <br /><br />Last season began with an inept bullpen and 3 first basemen---and a team unready to win games as much because of personnel as anything else.<br /><br />SS should be a solid answer---let Flores move around and gain/prove himself for more ab's. Get a First Position SS and be ready to compete day 1/ Wilmer will get 300 plus ab's.<br /><br />This season is about solving SS and "return to norm" for Wright and Grandy----that's 85-88 plus wins and a WC Chase.eraffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06493607580550078769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-4339681045419306842015-01-02T16:25:55.100-05:002015-01-02T16:25:55.100-05:00JP - Greetings from a big fan!!
My comments defin...JP - Greetings from a big fan!!<br /><br />My comments definitely did not ignore the 2nd elephant in the room. Totally agree<br /><br />Regards,<br />IBIBfromWhitePlainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210963705183083513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-62405727427386058602015-01-02T16:09:26.819-05:002015-01-02T16:09:26.819-05:00. . . and I think all these trade scenarios ignore.... . . and I think all these trade scenarios ignore the two elephants in the room, 1) Sandy doesn't make trades; and 2) Mets not taking on salary, owners still robbing from the fans, refuse to invest in product, won't spend.<br /><br />Frustrating. <br /><br />Imagine if you ran this team as a real business. Today, 2015, the Mets face a real opportunity to take NY back from the Yankees, whose fans are bored & disenchanted. A gigantic marketplace, ripe for the taking, and a team that's thisclose to being very good.<br /><br />Instead the Wilpons try to get by on the cheap, shooting for 84 wins. Sad, bad business.<br /><br /><br /><br />James Prellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342728812342563278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-58875488440550707012015-01-02T15:39:11.976-05:002015-01-02T15:39:11.976-05:00I think everyone is underrating what it would take...I think everyone is underrating what it would take to get Zobrist, forget about McGee. I think it's gonna start w/ Thor or Matz, which is a no go. Maybe a package w/ 2 of Plawecki, Montero, and Herrara? Regardless, I don't think Zobrist makes us a legit title contended, so I don't do it. I'm saving the bullets for Tulo.jshapps77https://www.blogger.com/profile/11557194533012114963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-29574838030536334272015-01-02T13:22:58.355-05:002015-01-02T13:22:58.355-05:00@IB
Me personally I would only trade Plawecki if ...@IB<br /><br />Me personally I would only trade Plawecki if I could also get a controllable bullpen arm along with him.<br /><br />Ben Zobrist + Jake McGee for Kevin Plawecki + Cory MazzoniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-34797210905253755772015-01-02T13:10:26.645-05:002015-01-02T13:10:26.645-05:00@Chris Soto
I confess I'm a baseball card kid...@Chris Soto<br /><br />I confess I'm a baseball card kid and never put much thought into Sabermetrics. I see a steady decline and I would agree with T. Brennan - Mazzoni and Montero or something in that caliber. No top prospects or quality starters.Like I said, he'd be a terrific addition if the Mets were willing to pay.<br /><br />I also worry when TB trades away a solid pieces. It would be interesting to track those trades. <br />IBfromWhitePlainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210963705183083513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-49013665226320041502015-01-02T12:26:06.429-05:002015-01-02T12:26:06.429-05:00I'd select the Mazzoni/Montero option for Zobr...I'd select the Mazzoni/Montero option for Zobrist. Keep Plawecki to CYA in case of a d'Arnaud injury at an injury-prone position.<br /><br />I think Herrera could be a future star, so I keep him.<br /><br />But even though he is good, not sure I trade for Zobrist and start giving up pieces.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-76011633930785202992015-01-02T12:25:50.701-05:002015-01-02T12:25:50.701-05:00What's important here is that we all have opin...What's important here is that we all have opinions.<br /><br />Trades at this time of the year usually are based on market value.<br /><br />Let's see what happens to him.Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-562240855039109252015-01-02T12:25:45.595-05:002015-01-02T12:25:45.595-05:00@IB
Ever since becoming a full time starter in 20...@IB<br /><br />Ever since becoming a full time starter in 2009, Zobrist has been worth 4.5 wins or better every season. This includes MVP caliber seasons of 8+ wins.<br /><br />He's a pretty sure bet to post another 4+ WAR season maybe even 5 with a better lineup around him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-31042287977495124302015-01-02T12:23:08.455-05:002015-01-02T12:23:08.455-05:00Lew -
you asked me what I thought it would take....Lew - <br /><br />you asked me what I thought it would take... <br /><br />that's what I think it will take<br /><br />(anyway, it looks like he's going to the Giants anyway)Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-16063992946336068752015-01-02T12:19:29.321-05:002015-01-02T12:19:29.321-05:00Chris - Happy New Year!
When the Rays signed Cab...Chris - Happy New Year! <br /><br />When the Rays signed Cabrerra I mentioned Pawlecki for Zobrist <br /><br />That's wouldn't be my starting point, but I could live with that as I think Zobrist could be a guy who adds the right value to the 2015 team to give them a shot at the post season. <br /><br />33 isn't ancient, and Zobrist has never had injury issues, so there shouldn't be a massive drop off from last year where he was a 5.0 WAR player. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05107443295708283998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-22440264443380663992015-01-02T12:01:20.870-05:002015-01-02T12:01:20.870-05:00Neise for Zobrist? I can't see trading a quali...Neise for Zobrist? I can't see trading a quality lefty starter for a 33 year old with a 1 year contract whose best years certainly look like they're behind him. I think he’d make a very nice bench piece if the Mets had payroll flexibility, which they don’t.IBfromWhitePlainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210963705183083513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-57511819937827630942015-01-02T12:01:15.701-05:002015-01-02T12:01:15.701-05:00I think the asking price for Ben Zobrist will be h...I think the asking price for Ben Zobrist will be higher than most expect for a guy with only 1 yr left.<br /><br />His ability to play multiple positions well is going to attract multiple suitors that are going to increase the cost.<br /><br />In addition, similar "1 yr left" players have netted some substantial returns so far this off-season.<br /><br />Howie Kendrick for Andrew Heaney<br />Jason Heyward for Shelby Miller + jordan Walden<br />Jimmy Rollins for Zach Elfin + Tom Windle<br /><br />A Zobrist deal will probably cost closer to the Kendrick deal which was for a "60 grade" caliber prospect. While Kendrick has better offensive numbers, Zobrist plays a higher position of need at SS and a team will pay more for it.<br /><br />IMO, if the Mets want Zobrist they will have to accept one of the possible deals below:<br /><br />Zobrist for Kevin Plawecki<br />Zobrist for Dilson Herrera<br />Zobrist for Rafael Montero and Cory MazzoniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-10751694609351663812015-01-02T11:58:16.805-05:002015-01-02T11:58:16.805-05:00I was looking at the splits for Flores last year. ...I was looking at the splits for Flores last year. I know its a small sample size and you can't read too much into any one good month but the guy had an .813 OPS in September when he actually got some consistent at bats. Maybe that's why I'm personally high on Flores, he finished the year strong with the bat and didn't embarrass himself in the field in September either like he did earlier in the year.<br /><br />However I have to agree if we can get Zobrist without overpaying for like a Niese and AA/A+ prospect like you say, thats a pretty good option to have. Feels like the best one I have seen written about. We dont need Niese anyways (though I would prefer him to Gee and Colon)<br /><br />With the debacle that was the bullpen in the first third of the year as well as the record in one run games, full seasons Degrom and having Harvey back I feel pretty good about how they will do. The team is so young that improving should be easy.Dallashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07966349028036306647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-23467675682683503952015-01-02T11:49:59.627-05:002015-01-02T11:49:59.627-05:00Mack - You think Niese to get Zobrist?
I think ...Mack - You think Niese to get Zobrist? <br /><br />I think the Rays are building for the next few years - wouldn't they want AA/AAA level prospects? <br /><br />I don't think I would give up Niese for Zobrist - I think Niese is under valued by Mets' fansAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05107443295708283998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-27363162529146456502015-01-02T11:30:32.929-05:002015-01-02T11:30:32.929-05:00James -
I worry about the same thing I worry abo...James - <br /><br />I worry about the same thing I worry about every year... injuries and depth.<br /><br />It is getting better, especially SPs, but overall it's still a little offMack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-83038629329463835272015-01-02T11:28:54.037-05:002015-01-02T11:28:54.037-05:00Lew-
Not one of the Big Three
Probably Niese and...Lew-<br /><br />Not one of the Big Three<br /><br />Probably Niese and a AA/A+ prospectMack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-86106094019231525722015-01-02T10:48:29.311-05:002015-01-02T10:48:29.311-05:00I am not sure how any rational person would think ...I am not sure how any rational person would think the Mets would be worse next year. <br /><br />I look at it this way - the Mets vastly under performed their expectations at:<br /><br />3b<br />RF<br />LF<br />SS<br /><br />The only "over performance" was from 1b and deGrom. <br /><br />Even if Duda and deGrom regress some - you are likely going to get improvement from Wright, Granderson, and a massive upgrade in LF<br /><br />Plug in even an 80% Harvey and you have the recipe for 4-5 extra wins without anything else really breaking great for the Mets. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05107443295708283998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-44541396774664532472015-01-02T10:45:21.645-05:002015-01-02T10:45:21.645-05:00Mack -
What do you think it would take to get Zo...Mack - <br /><br />What do you think it would take to get Zobrist? <br /><br />Given his age, production and contract being only one year - do you think we can get him for something Mazzoni, Reynolds, and another interesting arm like Fulmer? <br /><br />I believe the Rays farm system is currently pretty barren, so a guy like Mazzoni could become one of their top arms <br /><br />I would part with a package like that in a heart beat - Zobrist makes a lot of sense for the Mets. <br /><br />He can spell Murphy at 2b against lefties, play for Wilmer against tough RHP (he is a switch hitter) and be overall insurance for Wilmer at SS - and I bet Zobrist could play 3B and 1B if needed. <br /><br />Zobrist over Tejada as a back utility player will add 2-3 wins - well worth $7 million Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05107443295708283998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-77618727014926072292015-01-02T10:38:53.368-05:002015-01-02T10:38:53.368-05:00The Mets biggest asset this year is a division whe...The Mets biggest asset this year is a division where two teams are mailing it in, that's 38 games right there. Beat the Marlins 10 times and the overall record will look good.<br /><br />But the team itself is still shaky, and the GM does not seem to properly value defense.<br /><br />I think if they are serious about 2015, Zobrist is an interesting option. The trade should not be too onerous; however, I don't think they have any money. The $7.5 becomes too great an obstacle. Cue up the "exploring internal options" speech.James Prellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342728812342563278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-31373970123563568272015-01-02T10:34:30.447-05:002015-01-02T10:34:30.447-05:00Yes, it's important Matt Harvey recovers. Yes...Yes, it's important Matt Harvey recovers. Yes, it's important Travis d'Arnaud builds on what he does. Yes, it's important Lucas Duda shows 2014 wasn't a fluke. Yes, it's important David Wright and Michael Cuddyer are both healthy and productive.<br /><br />However, I think the biggest difference maker between another typical Collins year and contention will be the start Wilmer Flores has with the bat. If he's productive and Captain Hook allows him to play through a couple of consecutive 0-4 days, then the team could progress. But if we see more Tejada then .500 is but a pipe dream. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-46285580239065621422015-01-02T09:16:04.881-05:002015-01-02T09:16:04.881-05:00That's cool......the media consensus seems to ...That's cool......the media consensus seems to be "the Mets are better, but not playoff caliber in 2015".<br /><br />I have a feeling that they will surprise some folks and be in the Wild Card chase until the end of the season (I still think 88 wins is a logical target, which would give them a great shot at a WC).<br /><br />Take away the early season swoon and get closer to .500 in one run games........and play the Nationals to a draw, head to head......9 extra wins isn't that far fetched.<br /><br />It's better to be underestimated........they won't see us coming!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-51440092679260059132015-01-02T08:39:08.762-05:002015-01-02T08:39:08.762-05:00Happy new year, folks. It is 2015, and last time ...Happy new year, folks. It is 2015, and last time I checked, we're playing baseball in 2015, so I'm excited.<br /><br />I'm not familiar with Ryan Jackson, but I hate him too. He can star in a sitcom named Everybody Hates Ryan.<br /><br />The opposite of hate is love, and I love the pitchers we have for 2015, too. And for 2016, 2017, 2018...Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-41072050812256109122015-01-02T08:29:40.780-05:002015-01-02T08:29:40.780-05:00Well, the Mets lineup is full of injury plagued gu...Well, the Mets lineup is full of injury plagued guys, and the Ace of the pitching staff is attempting to return from TJS. That being said, the mystical 90 win season is not impossible. Solid overall pitching and a little timely hit homers can do wonders for a playoff chase.Ernest Dovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054861033443392454noreply@blogger.com