tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post7123117771976385393..comments2024-03-28T07:23:17.133-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: The Morning Report 12.8.2015 | Mets Await Zobrist's Decision, Edgin Making Progress/Expects to be Ready Opening Day, Baseline Value Set for Potential Jon Niese tradeMack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-79853808253190693182015-12-08T18:25:07.319-05:002015-12-08T18:25:07.319-05:00You are correct regarding Heyward
That is why Hey...You are correct regarding Heyward<br /><br />That is why Heyward would not be my target for 3rd or 4th.<br />I just mentioned him here comparing money and value.<br /><br />I would only be looking at Heyward as a possible replacement for Granderson at leadoff.<br />Again....more would have to be looked into if he is capable of that position in the lineup.<br />And....<br />As you mention so well.....<br />My focus would be on a 3rd and/or 4th place hitter.<br /><br />I would be looking at Outfielders and 1st basemen.<br /><br />Examples: Votto, Frazier, Cespedes....bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-90596702557762874352015-12-08T18:06:28.809-05:002015-12-08T18:06:28.809-05:00Heyward puts up what to me is a combination of Mur...Heyward puts up what to me is a combination of Murphy and Zobrist numbers, doesn't strike out too much, gets on base, and not too much power. I don't see Heyward having an offensive explosion and becoming a .300, 20, 100 kinda guy. I don't even see Heyward being a 20/20 player at all, so when you keep repeating you want a 3 or 4 hitter I'm just honestly a bit confused on why you're so willing to give Heyward, and i'll put it at the upper amounts that people are saying he'll get, 8 years at $25 million a year. Tons of his value comes from his defensive, I don't think anyone can reasonably expect for Heyward to be as good in CF as he is in RF. I understand the age argument, but I guess it's just a difference of opinion if you're expecting a huge offensive explosion from Heyward. I do like Heyward, but not anything more than a deal for more than $160 million, but that's just me. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-88207716271585541972015-12-08T17:48:23.100-05:002015-12-08T17:48:23.100-05:00I"m with you on that, Bob.I"m with you on that, Bob. Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-90821791590900918562015-12-08T17:37:54.585-05:002015-12-08T17:37:54.585-05:00If the Mets see Zobrist as being worth $15 million...If the Mets see Zobrist as being worth $15 million/ yr for 4 years there is no acceptable and logical reason that<br />Cespedes and Heyward could not be seen as being worth $20-25 million/ yr for 6 or 8 yrs.<br /><br />Of course everything is only speculation at this point.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-70604403170166318392015-12-08T17:34:42.973-05:002015-12-08T17:34:42.973-05:00But...
You can just go with Herrera and Flores and...But...<br />You can just go with Herrera and Flores and still have that draft pick.<br /><br />Additionally that $15 million/yr can go toward an Outfielder or 1st base upgrade.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-38545714140101885892015-12-08T16:44:32.143-05:002015-12-08T16:44:32.143-05:00@bob
No, because every other major insider is deny...@bob<br />No, because every other major insider is denying the truth to that completely.<br /><br />Also just in my opinion a potential Zobrist signing should be seen more as Zobrist + a first rounder that they'll get when Murph signs. That in my opinion is the biggest driving force in going so hard after Zobrist, you'll likely get similar production over the next few seasons between Zo and Murph, but if you go get Zo, and you get a first rounder for letting Murph go, and who knows maybe they'll use that extra slot money to go for an over slot guy who falls out of the top 10. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-17381026326127872522015-12-08T15:52:14.642-05:002015-12-08T15:52:14.642-05:00Can anybody believe any team would pay that? Can anybody believe any team would pay that? bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-65350643689516194152015-12-08T15:51:12.258-05:002015-12-08T15:51:12.258-05:00Much as I like Castro, the Mets and Cubs will neve...Much as I like Castro, the Mets and Cubs will never trade now, after having faced each other in the playoffs. Both teams have rebuilt--the Cubs with hitting, the Mets with pitching--and they've come out about even (a lot of folks give a slight edge to the Cubs; I give a slight edge to the Mets). There is no way either club wants to help the other at this point--even though such a deal would make sense for both. That window is closed to us, now.<br /><br />As for Miley and Niese, all facts and figures aside, the scouts have always been much much higher on Miley than they've ever been on Niese. I don't see anybody giving us a package anywhere near what Seattle gave for Miley. Not saying he can't be traded for good value--he can--but the Miley trade sets the (unrealistic) ceiling for a Niese trade, not the floor.Stubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010142558613227433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-73387348010040467672015-12-08T15:28:27.092-05:002015-12-08T15:28:27.092-05:00lets be fair, theres no way the mets would spend 8...lets be fair, theres no way the mets would spend 80 million, regardless of the player.Robbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06166843922861649296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-29649866139823499232015-12-08T15:24:51.594-05:002015-12-08T15:24:51.594-05:00Should be.......Should be.......bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-40470165577470877552015-12-08T14:18:49.030-05:002015-12-08T14:18:49.030-05:00Bob -
There is no way that the Mets would spend ...Bob - <br /><br />There is no way that the Mets would spend $80mil on Zobrist.<br /><br />I expect him to go to the NatsMack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-67861405501118300402015-12-08T14:15:46.123-05:002015-12-08T14:15:46.123-05:00@Bob
Mets already indicating that they did not ma...@Bob<br /><br />Mets already indicating that they did not make that offer, nor, would they even entertain the notion of matching it.Christopher Sotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546022315994489757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-67969087476475642082015-12-08T14:06:08.318-05:002015-12-08T14:06:08.318-05:00Believe it or not, the following is not a joke:
B...Believe it or not, the following is not a joke:<br /><br />Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports on Twitter that Ben Zobrist has an offer in hand for $80 million over 4 years.<br /><br />Crossing fingers this is not the Mets.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-44247742721098471992015-12-08T13:09:23.453-05:002015-12-08T13:09:23.453-05:00Hobie
using D'Arnaud as the 3rd place hitter ...Hobie<br /><br />using D'Arnaud as the 3rd place hitter is limited to begin with because of his days off required by catching.<br />Add to that his injury history...and it makes for a questionable call as to his reliability.<br /><br />Now Conforto as the 3rd place hitter would be a dramatic statement by the Mets organization.<br />What is he, 22 yrs old??<br />A risky and gutsy call.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-81048918906335935732015-12-08T12:59:16.837-05:002015-12-08T12:59:16.837-05:00I'd look to move Niese to the Cubs as part of ...I'd look to move Niese to the Cubs as part of a deal to get either Baez or Castro. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-82568751235858075162015-12-08T12:58:50.826-05:002015-12-08T12:58:50.826-05:00Kevin-
I did, figuring 60+ games Wright/Duda will ...Kevin-<br />I did, figuring 60+ games Wright/Duda will miss (and 12 DH games)<br />If I were worried about my wallet, I'd have TJR fill that slot :-)<br /><br />Bob-<br />Flip Conforto/Wright/TdA any way you wish.Hobiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161607087964191500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-65393192665602746412015-12-08T12:56:54.932-05:002015-12-08T12:56:54.932-05:00Mack
The moves you say doesnt even make us a top ...Mack<br />The moves you say doesnt even make us a top 20 offensive team. <br />All my fantasyland deals would basically come out a little bit north (payroll wise) of what you will pay Zobrist if you added him to our payroll with out subtracting anyone. <br />Zobrist is gonna get paid $15 mil a year, getting Heyward (whom is a lot younger) and paying him $5 million a year more should be a no brainier? Zozohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328187548616168708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-82523034899484599962015-12-08T12:50:04.212-05:002015-12-08T12:50:04.212-05:00whomever could steal me some more bases out of eit...whomever could steal me some more bases out of either Seager or ConfortoZozohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328187548616168708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-38402623812152370282015-12-08T12:47:59.469-05:002015-12-08T12:47:59.469-05:00Hobie,
Did you just sign Murphy/Zo for 3/4 years ...Hobie,<br /><br />Did you just sign Murphy/Zo for 3/4 years to be bench guys?Kevin Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-11807217795116109322015-12-08T12:40:41.105-05:002015-12-08T12:40:41.105-05:00Wright can not be counted on as a 3rd place hitter...Wright can not be counted on as a 3rd place hitter.<br />Consistency needed in that position in the lineup.<br />Yes he can be seen as a fill in every so often, but his health/injury/age makes him a very poor choice entering a season as your relied upon day to day 3rd place hitter.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-71263132930069006392015-12-08T12:29:16.168-05:002015-12-08T12:29:16.168-05:00While we’re in fantasyland, I would…
TRADE: Grand...While we’re in fantasyland, I would…<br /><br />TRADE: Grandy, Pawlecki, Cecchini/Rosario & Niese to DET for Iglesias<br />SIGN: Cespedes and Murphy/Zo (my sentimental choice is Murph)<br />SIGN: Sipp/Bastardo, Blevins, … and Colon<br /><br />LINEUP: Iglesias, Conforto, Wright, Cespedes(RF), Duda, TdA, Legares, pitcher, Dilson<br />BENCH: Monell, Flores, Murphy, Cuddyer, Ceciliani/Kirk/Nimmo (July)<br />SP: deGrom, Harvey, Thor, Matz, Verret/Colon (Wheeler in July)<br />RP: Familia, Sipp/Bastardo, Reed, Blevins, Robles, Edgin, Colon/Verret<br /><br />Make it so.<br />Hobiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161607087964191500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-67156879543142132352015-12-08T12:19:36.298-05:002015-12-08T12:19:36.298-05:00Sounds like a reasonable deal, Kevin S.Sounds like a reasonable deal, Kevin S.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-6755486351600749152015-12-08T12:04:59.663-05:002015-12-08T12:04:59.663-05:00How does involving Niese for Shawn Tolleson with T...How does involving Niese for Shawn Tolleson with Texas sound. Tolleson has had 2 good years whereas Carson Smith had 1 great season.Kevin Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-80084139880542140692015-12-08T11:28:42.703-05:002015-12-08T11:28:42.703-05:00And that is why the Mets may never be a perennial ...And that is why the Mets may never be a perennial playoff contender like the St. LOUIS Cardinals.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-41414211949992034732015-12-08T11:27:01.022-05:002015-12-08T11:27:01.022-05:00Who would you bat leadoff?
Seager?
(Not judging......Who would you bat leadoff?<br />Seager?<br />(Not judging...just asking)bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.com