tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post7151222763419278467..comments2024-03-28T06:55:33.470-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: The Morning Report 7.16.2015 | OF not a Target for Sandy, Terry Collins Not Happy/Claims Mets Could be Even Better, d'Arnaud Progressing, Trade Targets (White Sox, Indians, Rangers)Mack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-48108174683691790062015-07-16T16:49:39.280-04:002015-07-16T16:49:39.280-04:00I think the majority liked Cuddyer but didn't ...I think the majority liked Cuddyer but didn't like losing the pick to sign him. Obviously no one expected him to struggle this badly.<br /><br />I think the majority were shocked that Tomas didn't sign for more and would've signed up for him at the price he signed for. With An OPS of .799 during his first season in the bigs at age 24 sounds like a building block.<br /><br />Cespedes was traded for Porcello. The closest thing we had to that was Niese and that's not enough. If we could've gotten him for Niese and another mid level prosect. I think most of us would've agreed to that.<br /><br />The shortstops on the otherhand have been all over the place. I don't think anyone thought Peralta would get the deal he did. Still some people didn't want him.<br /><br />I liked Alexei Ramirez, and still do (he's gotta bounce back and is still better than Ruben).<br /><br />Don't wanna get started on Drew.Kevin Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-7734595795296537762015-07-16T15:57:43.181-04:002015-07-16T15:57:43.181-04:00@Bob
I was for Cuddyer
I was against Tomas (and s...@Bob<br /><br />I was for Cuddyer<br />I was against Tomas (and still am....he's nothing special)<br />I was for Cespedes<br /><br /><br />Adding some SS from the past two years....<br />I was for Stephen Drew<br />I was for Jhonny Peralta<br />I was against trading for any Arizona prospect SS.<br />Christopher Sotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546022315994489757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-27182604840944801032015-07-16T15:47:02.471-04:002015-07-16T15:47:02.471-04:00Let me ask everyone:
Who was for/ against Cuddyer...Let me ask everyone:<br /><br />Who was for/ against Cuddyer before the season?<br />Who was for/ against Tomas?<br />Who was for/ against Cespedes?<br />Any others anyone want to point out they were for or against in Fore-sight that the season has proven them to correct or wrong about?bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-80537694938075663852015-07-16T15:28:15.308-04:002015-07-16T15:28:15.308-04:00Zach
How is it hindsight if it these ideas were ex...Zach<br />How is it hindsight if it these ideas were expressed months ago during the off season?<br />Now when evidence has come in through game play those ideas were proven to be correct.<br />Pointing out that those ideas were in fact correct and that real evidence supports it is NOT hind sight in any definition of the phrase.<br /><br />What kind of question is that? Of course making the playoffs would be wonderful.<br />But, How confident are you that will happen without a major offensive change?<br />How about, even if the playoffs were reached how sustainable would it be considering the lack of position players offensively?<br /><br />Your assertion of hindsight is unreasonable... not supported by facts and realismbgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-17912692845590434142015-07-16T15:05:54.736-04:002015-07-16T15:05:54.736-04:00You're the mayor of GM FANTASY WORLD and PANIC...You're the mayor of GM FANTASY WORLD and PANIC CITY—it's a place filled with hypocrisy and convenient hindsight. Congratulations on your inaugural mayoral term. <br /><br />There's no reasoning with you. You also just as conveniently failed to answer my question: What if they make the playoffs? Will you be happy? Or will the "spirit" in which it was done somehow sour the experience for you? <br /><br />(And I'm not writing off the success of Tomas and Cespedes—they're having good seasons!) ZachBoyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-40449397692238507682015-07-16T14:48:37.909-04:002015-07-16T14:48:37.909-04:00Zach
My apologies sir, but you are wrong.
Once aga...Zach<br />My apologies sir, but you are wrong.<br />Once again the spirit, effort, and commitment were what was supported.<br />Once again, you are conveniently ignoring and writing off the successes of other targets that were easily obtainable.<br />Please look at the whole picture.<br />And yes, there were a few commenters on this board that specifically focused on Tomas, Cespedes, and Kang. That is why I mentioned them in particular.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-40408129815410298282015-07-16T14:41:39.350-04:002015-07-16T14:41:39.350-04:00Bob,
"Smart aggression should not be poo-po...Bob, <br /><br />"Smart aggression should not be poo-poo'd"—I have reason to believe you don't know what that is. <br /><br />"Even the Padres, though it may not work out this year, because it was not blind to the future"—it was COMPLETELY blind to the future. That is unequivocal hogwash. <br /><br />"Per Baseball America, the Padres traded away their no. 1 (Wisler), no. 2 (Turner), no. 4 (Ross), no. 6 (Fried), no. 9 (Eflin), no. 10 (Jace Peterson), no. 15 (Bauers), no. 16 (Mallex Smith), no. 21 (Dustin Peterson), no. 23 (Burch Smith), and no. 30 (Barbato) prospects, along with the 41st pick in the draft"—isn't that the definition of microscopically viewing a baseball team, the very thing you're imploring us not to do as fans? <br /><br />"… the Kemp trade, in which they took on a contract the Dodgers were DESPERATE to unload and gave up arguably their most valuable commodity in Grandal [an AS]." <br /><br />Or try this one on for size: "For the privilege of acquiring Wil Myers, the Padres surrendered five players, among them Joe Ross (Tyson’s brother) and the “player to be named later” — whose name everyone knew at the time: shortstop Trea Turner, the Padres’ first-round pick last year …"<br /><br />Also for the record: They have Upton for a one-year rental—that's it. If they're smart—which they're not!—they'll trade him before the deadline—but it will be for a lot less than they gave up for him in the summer. And for those around here who want Sandy to make that deal, he has a slashline of .176/.281/.244 since 6/1. Just remember that. Oh, didn't know that? Well, that's why you're not GMs. I'd LOVE to go back into the archives of this site and see all your pro-Padres comments from the summer. Fortunately for you I have neither the time nor the motivation to do so. "Fortunately for you" because I am pretty sure it would kill all your credibility. <br />It's REALLY EASY to just pick the two guys—Tomas and Cespedes—who are succeeding and leave out e.g. Kemp whose contract I'm sure you would've been ecstatic to take on. I have a sneaking suspicion that's in the archives too. You don't have the financial constraints under which Sandy has to work. You just live in GM Fantasy Land, which borders the equally populous metropolis of Panic City. <br /><br />Comparatively, the Mets are 47-42 (with probably the most DL casualties in the sport!). There's bad luck there—not bad planning. <br /><br />I'll give you a hypothetical: The Mets don't do anything (or do something small to improve the bench) and make the playoffs. What does it matter? They won! THEY WON! What does it matter the "spirit" in which it's done? I'm sure Preller will be SPIRITFULLY waiting in the front of an unemployment line soon enough. <br /><br />Bob, you have NO argument. ZachBoyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-42270264176051826142015-07-16T13:15:09.983-04:002015-07-16T13:15:09.983-04:00Somebody, the other day, pointed toward the Padres...Somebody, the other day, pointed toward the Padres this year.<br />Pointing out that their aggressiveness has not paid off as hoped.<br />I may have assumed the wrong thing, but my impression from that also seemed to be in support of Alderson's anti-aggressiveness towards winning.<br /><br />Smart aggression should not be poo-poo'd.<br />Even the Padres, though it may not work out this year, because it was not blind to the future. Upton can be retained, filling one OF position for years to come, or traded this year to restore prospects. The CF position has also been filled for years to come once Myers is healthy again. <br /><br />I believe there was also a swipe at commenters that may have been supportive of the new Padres gm aggressiveness. Please remember, those supporters did not necessarily agree that each move he made was spectacular. <br />It was the spirit, effort, and commitment behind them that was supported.<br />Similar spirit, effort, and commitment could have easily resulted in the Mets not settling for Cuddyer.<br />That money and a little more could have been spent on Tomas and Cespedes (and maybe Kang) as easily obtainable examples. I am sure there are multiple other combinations that would have also worked out. <br /><br />Imagine where the Mets now and future outlook would be. <br />Would the relatively small amount of additional money spent really have been a hinderance?<br />How much more $$ would have been made?<br /><br />Please keep the whole picture in mind when trying to elevate Alderson's standing compared to other gms.<br />Don't look through only the microscope. There is a much bigger picture.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-90085744695900329212015-07-16T12:16:39.482-04:002015-07-16T12:16:39.482-04:00So is the speculation about a single move being ma...So is the speculation about a single move being made. The team is:<br /><br />Getting no production out of 2/3 of its outfield<br />Has no leadoff hitter<br />Has no shortstop<br />Has no bench<br /><br />But one minor move is going to solve all that???Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-81245004688668427902015-07-16T11:18:53.146-04:002015-07-16T11:18:53.146-04:00The whole outfield view point Alderson is using de...The whole outfield view point Alderson is using demonstrates that the front office is still not in it to win.<br />bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-190813681433489182015-07-16T10:15:51.756-04:002015-07-16T10:15:51.756-04:00@Hobie -- it wasn't my hypothetical deal but C...@Hobie -- it wasn't my hypothetical deal but Chris Soto's...but my answer would be yes, in a heartbeat. Profar was one of the top prospects in all of baseball and if you could land him in exchange for Niese, you'd have to do it. Of course, it doesn't help you this year but without significant upgrades to the offense they're not playoff-bound anyway. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-61402496551569266512015-07-16T10:03:57.858-04:002015-07-16T10:03:57.858-04:00Reese-
re Niese for Alberto/Mendez; would you tak...Reese-<br /><br />re Niese for Alberto/Mendez; would you take (would TX give) a PTBNL (Profar) in such a deal?<br /><br />Just curious.Hobiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161607087964191500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-37098304204600578782015-07-16T09:29:36.811-04:002015-07-16T09:29:36.811-04:00TC needs to shut his mouth and stay away from an o...TC needs to shut his mouth and stay away from an open mike.<br /><br />I hate old men.<br /><br />Grumble... grumble...Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-62709617724111116332015-07-16T09:08:27.441-04:002015-07-16T09:08:27.441-04:00A healthy Murph and TDA in the second half can go ...A healthy Murph and TDA in the second half can go a long way in determining any playoff chances. <br />(Im still not expecting to see David Wright unless they add him back after Sept. 1 and see what he can do)<br />If the Mets do nothing significant other than a new SS and maybe replacements for Soup Mayberry, I guess it could only help at this point.Ernest Dovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054861033443392454noreply@blogger.com