tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post8449248636061329321..comments2024-03-29T09:25:06.082-04:00Comments on Mack's Mets: Stephen Guilbert - DiComo- Cuban SS Yoan Moncada "Not Realistic Option" Mack Adehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-84690247576343901282015-01-21T18:55:25.294-05:002015-01-21T18:55:25.294-05:00......sigh....
Alderson........
Maybe his eyesigh.........sigh....<br />Alderson........<br /><br />Maybe his eyesight is going........He can't see past the 30 year oldsbgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-79988439008857985922015-01-21T17:47:18.930-05:002015-01-21T17:47:18.930-05:00Reese, I respectfully disagree on your analysis. Y...Reese, I respectfully disagree on your analysis. Yasiel Puig was 21 when he signed and Moncada has more international competition and has done better. His tools also rate similarly to Puig's and some (speed) are better. Moncada will be 20 when he signs (he turns 20 soon) and I don't think there's an organization in baseball that would keep him, as you say, "in the minors for a few years". Stephen Guilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580612873273740610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-47596932852668069102015-01-21T16:39:48.529-05:002015-01-21T16:39:48.529-05:00If the Mets would sign Moncada in my opinion would...If the Mets would sign Moncada in my opinion would make the off season a succees. The penalty for team to over there intl slot would be not able to sign a player for over 300 thousand. The Mets have been good at signing players for less then the 300thousand. So for the Mets it isnt a penalty. My fear is the Yankees sign him and he becomes a star. Shame on the Wilpons.greg bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-21820779674055449642015-01-21T16:32:59.143-05:002015-01-21T16:32:59.143-05:00I think 50 mil total is fair,we can move Grandy ne...I think 50 mil total is fair,we can move Grandy next year ,he will be in his last year which should be easier to move we save the money and move Moncada if he he can't play SS and we have our young Ricky Henderson type leadoff hitter for the next eight years.ReneNYM1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08604583315050978415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-65678418361557634072015-01-21T16:31:50.735-05:002015-01-21T16:31:50.735-05:00Stephen
Welcome to my anger and disgust.Stephen<br />Welcome to my anger and disgust.bgreg98180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641039400307113366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-17595139318649696392015-01-21T16:28:50.953-05:002015-01-21T16:28:50.953-05:00But you miss the Mets modus operandi -- the wait u...But you miss the Mets modus operandi -- the wait until a player is over the hill and then overpay. They did it with Granderson. They did it with Cuddyer (draft pick and 2nd year) and they did it with Colon (apparently no one in baseball thinks he's worth what he's being paid regardless of his statistical performance or else he would be gone already). <br /><br />They do not have the foresight to invest in young players...only those who require minimum wage via traditional channels. <br /><br />I'm not saying I don't want Moncada. All I'm saying is I understand the rationale of not wanting to put $60 million into an unknown commodity at age 19 with no proven track record. Jose Abreu, Yasiel Puig and Yasmany Tomas all had shown over more years what they could do. At age 19 you're probably in low A ball. The Dwight Goodens and Bryce Harpers are few and far between. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-23356235469234420342015-01-21T15:54:09.753-05:002015-01-21T15:54:09.753-05:00Rene, that's exactly what the Mets should do. ...Rene, that's exactly what the Mets should do. Find a number that they can handle, even if it's on the lower end for what you think other teams might submit. You never know. At least scout him, hold a workout, make the best bid you can stomach, and do your best to improve this organization. <br /><br />I don't see why anyone would be opposed to this. Ian Desmond is going to cost 120 million next year to buy out the second half of his career. Why not 50 or 60 or even 80 million for a 20-year-old buying out his years until age 26? What am I missing here? Stephen Guilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580612873273740610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-36372985368459746782015-01-21T15:46:00.991-05:002015-01-21T15:46:00.991-05:00Wait til this guy is hitting a bunch of long balls...Wait til this guy is hitting a bunch of long balls as a Yankee and we have to hear John Sterling: "ANOTHER ENCHILADA...FOR YOAN...MONCADA! Ahh, another one of the Yankee greats!"<br /><br />Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-65446296829883239222015-01-21T15:33:52.263-05:002015-01-21T15:33:52.263-05:00The only surprising thing is that anyone here is e...The only surprising thing is that anyone here is even mildly surprised about this - or holding out hope that it's somehow not true. That Adam Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687771146317665283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-73379334816953950832015-01-21T15:27:49.396-05:002015-01-21T15:27:49.396-05:00I would offer 25 million ,because with the penalty...I would offer 25 million ,because with the penalty it's 50 million total for a stud speedster with power and SS potential.I have a good feeling he is the real deal and the best of those most recent Cubans coming over.It's like buying the number one pick in the draft.The Mets Ownership will make a statement by going for it with this kid we are not far away from making them alot of money to be cheap now is dollar foolish.ReneNYM1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08604583315050978415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-51522938178874168082015-01-21T15:13:48.791-05:002015-01-21T15:13:48.791-05:00Seriously...you can tell by LOOKING at this guy he...Seriously...you can tell by LOOKING at this guy he's going to be a stud...and at SS or 2B?!Michael S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10592189867244144200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-35427943385078434932015-01-21T15:07:47.848-05:002015-01-21T15:07:47.848-05:00Disgraceful.Disgraceful.Michael S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10592189867244144200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-27580960607985464272015-01-21T15:01:39.711-05:002015-01-21T15:01:39.711-05:00Everyone -
I am as angered as Stephen over this,...Everyone - <br /><br />I am as angered as Stephen over this, but my anger is tempered by the fact that I know the Wilpon Mets would never fork over $60mil before writing a contract... on anyone.<br /><br />I have learned to accept this and look for solutions<br />Mack Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730548449011685243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-34571469299229643862015-01-21T14:31:30.055-05:002015-01-21T14:31:30.055-05:00I share the same sentiment as Reese that Moncada w...I share the same sentiment as Reese that Moncada will need some minor league work.....but probably just 1-2 years of it. No matter how long he has to spend in the minor leagues though it will still be a $60M investment for 6 years of MLB control.<br /><br />However I agree with everyone else that the club NEEDS to make a run at Moncada. Especially since they lost their 1st round pick to sign Cuddyer.<br /><br />Also the Mets are extremely good at finding Latin American talent at lower signing bonuses than other clubs are...<br /><br />Marcos Molina<br />Ali Sanchez<br />Adrian Almaeda<br />Vicente Lupo<br />Luis Mateo<br /><br />All signed for less than $300kAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-48998959997372312362015-01-21T13:51:34.387-05:002015-01-21T13:51:34.387-05:00"A few minor league seasons"
then you ..."A few minor league seasons" <br /><br />then you disagree with every scout who has seen him play. Unless you mean something other than 3-4 when you say "a few" <br /><br />And Thomas is a limited player and frankly doesn't hold a candle to Moncada in the tools dept. <br /><br />Is this just you arguing with me because you don't want to agree with me on anything? There's absolutely no reason for you to bang on about Thomas all winter, which you did, but then agree with the Mets on not even bidding on Moncada. Stephen Guilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580612873273740610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-23167912917769199502015-01-21T13:41:44.994-05:002015-01-21T13:41:44.994-05:00It seemed to me the team needed a power hitting ou...It seemed to me the team needed a power hitting outfielder and Yasmany Tomas was there for the taking and they passed on him, too -- and he is major league ready, unlike Moncada who would probably have a few minor league seasons to play before reaping benefits of the investment. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-73805588102956100032015-01-21T13:14:23.592-05:002015-01-21T13:14:23.592-05:00See, though, it's 60 million for seven years o...See, though, it's 60 million for seven years of a guy who projects to be a cornerstone player. <br /><br />Let's put this another way--if you could just buy the #1 overall pick or a top 10 prospect out of thin air, would you? See I think I would if I'm a big market team who, let's just say, just lost a first round draft pick. Oh...we are...and we did. Stephen Guilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580612873273740610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-67407979909511676712015-01-21T12:58:51.348-05:002015-01-21T12:58:51.348-05:00While my anger was instantaneous and intense, from...While my anger was instantaneous and intense, from what we're reading they're talking about a $30 million fee and a $30 million penalty to MLB for a total of $60 million before you even get to the contract. Frankly I side with the Mets in this one.<br /><br />However, it did add gasoline to an already forgotten fire that they chose not to get in on the Korean SS Kang who signed for a $4 million positing fee and then 4 years for $11 million -- a total of less than $4 million per year for someone who hit well over .300 and 39 HRs last season. Even at half that production he'd have been a bargain and I can't buy into the "he's too expensive" excuse at that level. Reese Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993445356545875409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-46818142539902395012015-01-21T12:29:40.256-05:002015-01-21T12:29:40.256-05:00Yea, Thomas, I'm trying to mitigate my anger o...Yea, Thomas, I'm trying to mitigate my anger over this by reminding myself that Moncada hasn't signed anywhere yet and there are still a number of ways this could unfold. <br /><br />Say Moncada waits until later in the summer to sign (for foreign asset control, training, or whatever) then the Red Sox and the Yankees--two of his biggest bidders--are out. The price must come down. Do the Mets get in then? <br /><br />However, all signs point to Moncada being a non-factor because the Wilpon-owned Mets do not have the money for seven years of a consensus franchise bat. Stephen Guilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580612873273740610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-592615130369356022.post-37773697867848004582015-01-21T12:12:24.799-05:002015-01-21T12:12:24.799-05:00Take a good, long look at that highly athletic loo...Take a good, long look at that highly athletic looking player in the picture. Straight out of Central Casting. <br /><br />Now picture him in a Yankee uniform - even more infuriating, huh, Stephen? That apparently is the team favored to get him. Again. While the Mets sit.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032383157195393857noreply@blogger.com