It was announced yesterday that Hoge has retired. My previous notes on a good guy:
Lance Hoge – RP/SP – low-A/A – 23/yrs.
Hoge was an unheralded 36th round pick in 2009 by the Mets. He pitched for Kansas State, where his numbers alone didn’t warrant the pick: 16 games, 15 starts, 6-4, 4.54 ERA, 71.1 IP, 82 H, 22 BB, 46 K, 7 HR.
From: http://www.themercury.com/k-statesports/article.aspx?articleId=b634c6b0e2dd43dca9307fd2ba663832 : - "Justin Bloxom, Drew Biery, Jordan, Rob Vaughn, Dane Yelovich — I hope they all get a look," Hill said. "Also (pitcher) Lance Hoge — he's a left-hander and they are at a premium, so I wouldn't rule him out. It only takes one guy getting seen on the right day. You never know how high some guys can go
From: http://www.withthefirstpick.net/draft-report-cards-nl-east?a=1&c=1153&mode=print The Mets best pick might be Kansas State lefty Lance Hoge (36th round), who commands two decent pitches, but that says more about the Mets pathetic draft than it does about Hoge
Hoge pitched 2009 for both Brooklyn (1-0, 2.52, in 10 appearances) and Savannah (0-2, 4.50 in 5 games, 3 starts). His combined stats were: 1-2, 3.29, 33-K, 6-BB, 41.0-IP
Forecast on Jan 1, 2010:: Good start for Hoge, who should wind up in Savannah for the beginning of the 2010 season.
Moviel has been removed from the St. Lucie rotation and threw three relief innings last night following Brad Holt. Frankly, his stat line wasn’t much different from when he was starting: 3.0-IP, 2-ER, 4-H, 3-BB, only 1-K. His 2010 ERA now stands at 6.32.
Previous notes on Moviel:
Moviel was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2007 draft by the Mets. He finished his last season this year in high school, going 3-2 1.47 and striking out 69 batters in 38 IP. Moviel’s fast ball tops off at 94 and is quite intimidating on the mound, standing 6-10 and weighing 245 pounds.
BA Scouting Report: The Andrew Brackman comparisons are obvious. Product of an Ohio high school? Check. Signed to play in college at North Carolina State? Check. Huge body that has scouts dreaming of a monster frontline starter? Check. Unlike Brackman, Moviel doesn't have a basketball scholarship, but he has played the sport in high school. He's an intimidating 6-foot-10 and 245 pounds and athletic for his size. He has a 91-92 mph fastball that tops out at 94, and he has tightened up a curveball that was loopy a year ago. Brackman had similar stuff when he came out of Cincinnati's Moeller High three years ago, though his breaking ball was better. As with any large pitcher, there are concerns as to how well Moviel will repeat his delivery and command his pitches. His mechanics don't have any major flaws, though he could do a better job of staying on top of his pitches. Because his older brothers Paul (in the Devil Rays system) and Greg (in the Mariners organization) went backward in college, Moviel is considered signable, especially if he goes in the top three rounds as expected. Rated 68th Nationally.
Another scouting report: Moviel threw his fastball in the 88-92 mph range and threw it consistently at 90 mph. Curve: Moviel's curve has the chance to be a good offering, but he gets in front of it a little too much and his mechanics sometime get in the way of consistently delivering the pitch. Changeup: He showed a changeup, but he didn't throw it much in this outing. Control: With all that can go wrong with a 6-foot-10 pitcher's delivery, Moviel can struggle with his command when his mechanics go awry. Poise: Moviel had very good mound presence and stands out there like he wants to win. Physical Description: Big, imposing right-hander, much like NC State starter Andrew Brackman. Like Brackman, Moviel could be headed to NC State and is a former basketball player, so he's fairly athletic, especially for someone his size. He's very coordinated and has surprising quickness. Medical Update: Healthy. Strengths: The body plus the arm strength. At 6-10, Moviel could have the ability to throw a plus, plus fastball to go along with an above-average curve. It's all about projectability. Weaknesses: He's a project. He struggles with inconsistency and guys his size have to make sure they have everything completely together for everything to work properly. His pitches past his fastball lag behind currently. Summary: Moviel is a huge 6-foot-10 right-hander who'll be a bit of a project for whichever team takes him. He is fairly athletic and used to play basketball, but as is often the case with pitchers his size, he struggles to repeat his delivery and maintain his mechanics. He does have a solid average fastball, a curve that could become a good pitch with some help and a changeup he doesn't throw much. Finding consistency will be the key to Moviel's success. Some pitchers his size have found it, others have not.
Moviel was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2007 draft by the New York Mets. He was signed and assigned to the GCL Mets, where he went 0-2, 3.38 in 12 appearances. He also had 37 Ks in 40.0 IP.
In September 2007, Baseball America ranked Moviel as the 14th in the Gulf Coast League.
In November 2007, Scouts.com named him the 18th top Mets prospect.
In December 2007, Jonathan Mayo/MLB wrote about Moviel: - The big second-rounder is 6-foot-10 and a former basketball player. While he's very athletic, he has a live arm and showed a decent idea of how to pitch during his debut. He was pretty good in the GCL, posting a 3.38 ERA and 37 K's in 40 IP.
In late January 2007, Baseball America ranked Moviel as the 12th overall Mets prospect, adding: "has excellent athleticism and coordination for a pitcher his size"
In February 2008, Baseball Prospectus awarded Moviel a 2-star prospect rating and ranked him as the 7th overall Mets prospect.
Also in February 2008, Rotoworld ranked Moviel as the #13 Mets prospect.
In March 2008, BA wrote an article on the top ten prospects to watch out for in 2008: - There's no doubt Moviel, the Mets' second-round pick last June, will stand out in a crowd. At 6-foot-11, that much is certain. It also seems like the kid can pitch a little. Moviel has proven to be extremely coordinated and athletic, especially considering his size. He throws three pitches -- fastball, changeup and breaking pitch -- and he's got plenty of potential for increased velocity. The breaking ball is what needs the most work; right now, it's a curve and he'll continue to develop it. Though he's just out of high school, his athleticism should help him handle a full-season assignment in Savannah.
Moviel spent much of 2008 dinged up, but still managed to post a combined record of 10-8, 4.25 in 25 starts for Savannah and St. Lucie.
2009 wasn’t much better, injury wise, but he did pitch a combined 4-5, 3.56, in 5 starts, for the GCL Mets (rehab) and St. Lucie.
Forecast written in Jan 2010: - Moviel is one of those forgotten prospects that falls down the chain because of a little thing called surgery. A knee injury cost him almost three months of the season this year, but he has bounced back well. Frankly, his 3-year minor league totals are still impressive: 14-15, 3.89, 1.34. I have him projected as the SP5 in Binghamton, simply because with the graduating class from Savannah all going to St. Lucie, there’s no room for him to repeat there. If he’s healthy, he should be ready for the jump.
Holt had a rare good outing Tuesday night, though it was at the A+ level, at least one level below where he should be dominating at this stage in his professional career. Stats were: 5.0-IP, 1-ER, 2-H, 1-WP, 5-K, and still 5-BB. This is the best he’s been all year long and the last thing we should be applauding is five walks and one wild pitch in five innings, but in his case, we’ll take what we can right now. Holt’s A+ record now is 1-1, 5.00… combined A+/AA: 2-6, 9.00. Far from prospect material.
Previous notes on Holt:
The Mets picked Holt in the supplemental portion of the 1st round in the 2008 draft. College stats: 3.18 ERA, 11-1, 93.1 IP, 78 H, 36 BB, 95 K, .225 BAA, 8 HR allowed
Comments by Baseball America before draft day: With an impressive performance, Holt could vault himself into position to be a back of the first-round or early supplemental selection. A team such as the Mets with multiple picks in the first 50 could be especially interested in a guy like Holt. Mets scouting director Rudy Terrasas is known for liking pitchers with pure arm strength such as Holt, and with picks at 18, 22 and 33, it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Mets take the Seahawks righthander. This weekend will not be the first time that Terrasas and his staff have seen Holt—as the scouting director, along with multiple other members of his staff, was in attendance to witness Holt pitch eight innings against Old Dominion. Holt struck out 11 and only allowed one earned run in the outing. The Brewers are another team with three selections in the first 35 picks that could be especially interested in Holt.
Also from Baseball America: His fastball has improved since arriving in Wilmington and now sits between 92-94 mph, touching 96… He is able to maintain his velocity deep into games. [He has] vastly improved command. Holt at 6-foot-4, 195 pounds, has a perfect pro body with a clean delivery and a first-round arm… The only thing holding him back is the lack of a usable secondary pitch…. Even though his secondary stuff is in need of refinement, teams will not walk away from the pro body, strong arm and life on the fastball.
From Keith Law: Ultimate Role: Setup man Summary: Holt shows consistent arm strength and holds it through his starts as well as any starter in this draft, sitting 93-96 mph every week from his first inning to his last. The velocity is easy; the ball comes out of his arm well and has good downhill plane and some life to it. He pitches almost exclusively off his fastball, throwing offspeed stuff less than 25 percent of the time. His curveball, which has a short downward break and moderately tight rotation, is his best secondary pitch; it could become an average offering, but it's a one-plane pitch. He has a changeup, but he guides this mediocre offering to the plate. He takes a long stride forward off the mound, holding his velocity even from the stretch when he doesn't stay over the rubber at all, and has just a little bit of violence at the end when his head snaps slightly. If he had a better changeup or could handle a splitter -- his arm slot might be too low for it -- he'd have a chance to be a back-end starter. But as a one-and-a-half-pitch pitcher, he's more likely to work in the bullpen when he reaches the majors.
Holt pitched the day before the draft… threw 149 pitches and was clocked at 94 in the 9th inning.
In June 2008, BA did a post-draft adjustment of their top 10 Mets prospects and Holt was ranked #8, with the comments: “8. Brad Holt, rhp - 2008 supplemental first-rounder can touch 96 mph, needs a reliable second pitch.”
In July 2008, From The Hardball Times: Brad Holt – RHP - Holt does a really good job loading his arm horizontally toward first base. By loading his arm this way, Holt is "scap loading." I've talked about scap loading before, but if you haven't heard the term, here is a semi-detailed definition: Scap loading is the horizontal loading of the arm. By loading the arm horizontally, the pitcher almost seems as if he is trying to touch his throwing elbow to the mid-point of his back. By carrying out this action, the pitcher creates tension in all the elastic muscles and tendons of the shoulder, and if done efficiently, the shoulder unloads aggressively toward home plate due to these elastic muscles being stretched and then released like a rubber band you let go after stretching.
The end product is a high-velocity fastball, which is exactly what Holt possesses. Holt's fastball is very lively, reaching up to 95, and it gets on the batter quick. It seems to pick up an extra gear just before it reaches home plate. My opinion is that he even has some velocity left in the tank, which could be tapped either through mechanics (like getting his hips moving a little earlier toward home plate) or by filling out his projectable frame.
In 2008, Holt was spot on for Brooklyn, going 5-3, 1.87 in 14 starts. He also struck out 96 batters in 72.1 IP. Holt won the Sterling Award as the the top Met player for the 2008 Brooklyn team.
September 2008: Brooklyn pitching coach Hector Berrios on: Brad Holt: “Holt has a power arm. He hit 100 miles per hour on the radar gun in Aberdeen and it was the first time I saw it live. That was impressive. We had a report on him that he threw 147 fastballs out of 152 pitches in a start in college. In the beginning, he told me, ‘I don’t even know what I throw.’ I told him, just throw whatever you have and we’ll take it from there. It turns out he has a power curve, 79-81 miles per hour with a big break. He also started to incorporate his change up. He’s very athletic and he’s constantly learning. He’s got a world of talent and with that type of power, especially considering how far he’s come with his secondary pitches in such a short amount of time, the sky is the limit. I think in two or three years, he’ll be a guy on the front end of the Mets rotation.”
In September, Patrick Hickey wrote on: Brad Holt- His secondary pitches came such a long way during the season and he proved he’s much more than a fastball pitcher. His curve ball has the potential to be a devastating pitch as well and his changeup needs some work, but is progressing steadily. As far as his potential goes, I see him as someone who could round out the last two spots of a starting rotation or be an excellent setup man or reliever, kind of like an old New York favorite, Dave Righetti. His fun-loving, yet professional attitude with the media and in the clubhouse could also make him a fan-favorite in a jiffy once he gets to Brooklyn. Final grade- A+
In February 2009, MYOB write: Brad Holt RHP - Brad signed for a little over $1 million and is a supplemental first rounder for the Braves signing Tom Glavine. He throws in the mid-90s and has good command of his fastball. Brad led the NY Penn league in ERA at 1.87 in 14 starts, striking out 96 hitters in just over 72 innings pitched. He only gave up 43 hits, translating to an opponent average of .171. All this success without a secondary pitch. If he is going to have success as he advances Brad will need to find a second and third offering, otherwise he can replace K-Rod as the closer. He’s working on a slider and change.
In February 2009, Toby Hyde wrote: Holt has both the highest ceiling, and the best downside projection among Mets pitching prospects. He has the best fastball in the system with a great pitcher’s build and clean, easy mechanics. In college, he moved from the third-base side of the rubber to the first, which allowed him to land more online to home plate, rather than closed and snap his hips through the pitch more effectively. The result of the change by 2008, was a legitimate mid-90s fastball that he threw 93-95 mph that exploded on hitters out of Holt’s hand. Moreover, the plus, or perhaps plus-plus heater played up thanks to fine command. A detractor might complain about Holt that he has only one plus pitch. That detractor’s criticism would be entirely justified. On the other hand, Holt has made terrific progress with his breaking ball, tightening up a slurvy offering from college into a tight, hard curveball, that at times, flashes plus potential. A scout who had seen him as an amateur, and then repeatedly in the New York Penn League, was left shaking his head, noting that every time he saw Holt as a professional, he made strides with his breaking ball. Holt rarely threw his below average changeup in the NYP League. He did not need it against less advanced hitters, although he has expressed a desire to improve the pitch. Holt’s progress with his breaking stuff will dictate whether he becomes a frontline starter. Even if he struggles with his changeup, his fastball will take him to some kind of big league bullpen role, where he could excel. 2008: Holt had a monster debut in Brooklyn, easily outshining the two gentlemen, Ike Davis and Reese Havens, the Mets picked ahead of him in the 2008 draft. Holt led the circuit in ERA and strikeouts while landing second in WHIP (1.05) behind teammate Chris Schwinden. Holt reached double figures in strikeouts four times, including a 14 punch-out performance on July 24th, that tied a Cyclones single-game record. Holt worked deep into games, throwing five innings or more in five of his last six contests. Projected 2009 Start: St. Lucie rotation
In March 2009, Rotoworld ranked the Mets Top 10 Prospect: Holt, the 33rd overall selection in the 2008 draft, overmatched New York-Penn League hitters in his debut. Of course, that's exactly what should have happened. The UNC Wilimington product throws in the mid-90s with regularity. The rest of his arsenal, though, needs serious work. He's inconsistent with a slurvy slider and incapable of fooling hitters with his changeup. The Mets will work with him to refine his secondary pitches this year. If he doesn't make as much progress as hoped, he could find himself on the verge of a switch to the pen at this time next year.
9-9-9 From www.hardballtimes.com: - Taken in the first supplemental round in the 2008 draft, Holt, a 6'4 righty out of UNC-Wilimgton, quickly impressed in his pro debut. After posting a 2.62 FIP for Brooklyn last year, Holt struck out 54 batters in 43.1 innings for St.Lucie in 2009 before being called up to Binghamton. However, his run of great pitching ended there. He only struck out 45 in 58 innings and walked 23 while giving up nine homers, leading to a 5.01 FIP. Holt is a power pitcher who has to rely on his plus fastball, so when he's not striking out guys at a good enough rate it could lead to problems. However, he was hampered by an ankle injury, so we'll see if he can bounce back in Binghamton in 2010.
After all, without an injury to Daniel Murphy, there would be no Ike Davis at first base. Without an injury to Luis Castillo, there would be no Ruben Tejada at second base. Without injuries to both John Maine and Oliver Perez, there would be no R.A. Dickey starting -- the pitcher on pace to go 18-0 with a 2.33 ERA. (he lost last night…) What is fascinating about these injuries is the role they have played in 2010 and beyond. Establishing Tejada and Davis as young, cost-controlled regulars at first and second base will provide a huge step forward for a contending team for years to come. Dickey is 35, but in knuckleballer years, that's more like 25. Even the recent back problem Rod Barajas has suffered through may open the door for Josh Thole to show that he is the long-term answer at catcher, too. - link
When the trade occurred, if there was someone I had to be “upset” about potentially losing was Philip Humber, an injury-prone prospect but had a lot of upside to counteract it. At one point, I remember some rumblings that Humber could potentially have a higher ceiling than Mike Pelfrey, who was considered more “major league ready” than Humber was in 2007. Perhaps most Mets fans remember Humber being underused towards the end of 2007, as he was thrust into a start in the last week of the season in critical games the Mets absolutely had to win. Unfortunately, we didn’t get to see what Humber could have brought to the table, since he was traded to Minny for Santana just a few months after the season’s end. Humber is another member of the “I Was Traded For Johan Santana and All I Have Is This Stupid T-Shirt” club, but is no longer affiliated with the Minnesota Twins. You see, he was granted free agency after the 2009 season, and is now a Kansas City Royal. However, on June 10, 2010, Humber was hit with a line drive while pitching in a game for the AAA Omaha Royals. He was able to walk off the field on his own and was taken to the hospital for observation. No other information has been found at this time on the extent of his injury. - link
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