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7/10/13

Mack Ade – PM Report – 7-10-13 – Bobby Parnell, Rule 5 Eligible, Shaun Marcum,


 

RP John Church was promoted from Binghamton to Las Vegas.

 

Ryan Kelly ‏@ryankelly  - Francesa says Red Sox (and others) want Bobby Parnell badly; Mets asked for Jackie Bradley, Jr. from Sox, who have said no.

This is the one area I like about Sandy Alderson. He seems to have a good sense of asking for more than he would be giving up. If you do that consistently, some turn into real deals. Bradley has much more long term upside than Parnell, though I would be happy with either of them. I do think the Mets need to get on with the business of putting a more potent lineup out there every day.

Bradley had a hard time with it when he came up for the first time, but who doesn’t (remember Dominic Brown?)

The best thing about the Francesa statement is ‘others’. There seems to be some action out there on Parnell so we’ll have to see if he’s the ‘definite no’ that Alderson said he was.

My guess in only David Wright and Matt Harvey have no trade tags on them right now.

 

Next winter’s Rule 5 eligible list has some interesting names on it. Thanks to Chris Walendin for passing it on to me –

Akeel Morris, Cory Mazzoni, Logan Verrett, Tyler Pill, Jack Leathersich, Cole Frenzel, Daniel Muno, Alex Panteliodis, Xorge Carrillo, Jonathan Clark, Travis Taijeron, Dustin Lawley, Casey Hauptman, Randy Fontanez, Chad Zurcher, Carlos Leyva, Seth Lugo, Chasen Bradford, Charley Thurber, Greg Pron, Edward Rohan, Julian Hilario, Rainy Lara, Yeixon Ruiz, Domingo Tapia, Anthony Chavez, Alberto Baldonado, Gabriel Ynoa, Maikis De La Cruz, Juan Carlos Gamboa, Michael Bernal, Persio Reyes, Jorge Rivero, Luis Mateo, Rafael Montero, T.J. Rivera, Beck Wheeler, Shane Bay, Noah Syndergaard

 

Ed Coleman said on WFAN that P Shaun Marcum is ‘done for the year’.

As Toby Hyde likes to say, ‘pitchers get hurt’. Sure, it turned out to be a bad sign, but it looked pretty good the day it happened. I’m not going to spend any time telling you this was a bad deal. It was what it was. The Mets needed a pitcher and Marcum was one of the guys that were out there. Sure, he came with some medical history, but what pitcher doesn’t after throwing 200,000 curveballs since high school.

Officially, it’s called Thoracic Outlet Syndrome and the surgery is on Monday. You’ve seen the last of him as a New York Met.

The Mets activated RP Gonzalez Germen and will convert Carlos Torres back to a starter until Jon Niese returns.

12 comments:

  1. Wasn't Steven matz supposed to be rule 5 eligible

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  2. Marcum was a worthwhile gamble.

    I love how Sandy values his assets. Ask for the moon because the other teams aren't going to just offer it. If Parnell is really in demand, he'll net a top prospect. It's just going to have to go to the deadline. Teams blink when they get desperate. I'm not as enamored with JBJ as others. I want either Bogaerts or Castellanos from Detroit. They can either fit into the Mets plans or be lynchpins for another deal.

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  3. That list is wrong....it contains a lot of 2011 draftees.

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  4. I think half that list is wrong. Montero was signed in '11. Synder drafted in '10. It would be '09 draftees or signs.

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  5. You would definitely have to keep at least 15 of them if that list is accurate. But holding onto that many would probably be impossible. We would have to trade some of them away so we don't lose them for nothing. I also remember that matz should be on that list as well.
    We should be trading Parnell, Murphy and Byrd, cause they are not part of our future. I hope Sandy mess this up like he did last year with Hairston???

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  6. Exactly. There's no way the Mets could keep half of them if that was real. Mazzoni and half of them were drafted in the same year as Nimmo and Fulmer.

    Now, I don't know when Tapia or Ynoa were signed so that could be interesting. I'm a little worried about Matz and Akeel Morris. I remember two years ago Mack was saying Morris could be a number one starter a d then he couldn't throw strikes. Now it seems as if he's figure it out. That's another good arm in a system that seems to keep coming up with them.

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  7. The rule 5 list was given to me by a Mets blog friend... I assumed it was correct... I'm sorry if it wasn't

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  8. The Rule V Draft is held annually during baseball's Winter Meetings. Teams must file a 40-man roster with the league office by November 20. Any player who fits all of the criteria below is eligible for the Rule V Draft:
    Player is not on the 40 man roster
    Player has been in the minor leagues for at least 4 years if he was signed after age 19 (was 3 years before the 2006 CBA).
    Player has been in the minor leagues for at least 5 years if he was signed before age 19 (was 4 years before the 2006 CBA).

    To me that sounds that the 2010 draft class is eligible and the 2009 HS kids/IFA signings.

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  9. As I said, the list was given to me by two trusted allies...

    feel free to post your own version

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  10. I found this on the link below, but I'm not 100% positive of its accuracy either.

    ttp://tpgmets.blogspot.com/p/rule-5.html

    The following players will be eligible for the Major League phase of the Rule 5 draft this coming winter (players in bold will be eligible for the first time). Teams can protect players from the Rule 5 draft by placing them on the 40-man roster. The deadline to add a player to the 40-man roster this year is November 20, 2013.

    AAA --- Las Vegas 51s
    Eric Campbell
    Matt den Dekker
    Darin Gorski
    Kai Gronauer
    Reese Havens
    Jacob deGrom
    Greg Peavey
    Chris Schwinden

    AA --- Binghamton Mets
    Joe Bonfe
    Darrell Ceciliani
    John Church
    Mark Cohoon
    Allan Dykstra
    Blake Forsythe
    Erik Goeddel
    Chase Huchingson
    Adam Kolarek
    Shawn Teufel
    Cory Vaughn
    Jeff Walters

    A+ --- St. Lucie Mets
    Hamilton Bennett
    Marcos Camarena
    TJ Chism
    Albert Cordero
    Angel Cuan
    Jim Fuller
    Gilbert Gomez
    Brian Harrison
    Cam Maron
    Estarlin Morel
    Aderlin Rodriguez
    Rylan Sandoval
    Robbie Shields
    Carlos Vazquez
    Taylor Whitenton

    A --- Savannah Sand Gnats
    Hunter Carnavale
    Luis Cessa
    Yucary De La Cruz
    Jeff Glenn
    Steven Matz
    Bret Mitchell
    Eudy Pina
    Nelfi Zapata

    Other
    Martires Arias
    Cristian Chivilli
    Miller Diaz
    Zach Dotson
    Josh Dunn
    Ramon Estevez
    Ryan Fraser
    Darwin Frias
    Carlos Gomez
    Michael Johnson
    Alex Machillanada
    John Mincone
    Adam O'Neill
    Flabio Ortega
    Travis Ozga
    Eris Peguero
    Andres Perez
    AJ Pinera
    Dimas Ponce
    Luis Rengel
    Alex Sanchez
    Ismael Tijerina
    Jhonathan Torres
    Juan Urbina
    Carlos Valdez
    Edioglas Villasmil
    Ernesto Yanez


    Players are naturally protected from the Rule 5 draft 4 times if they were younger than 19 on the June 5th immediately prior to the date on which they signed their first contract, and 3 times if they were age 19 or older. If they signed their first contract after the end of the season (for the team to which they're assigned), then their natural Rule 5 protection extends an additional year.

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  11. This is from someone named "Chris"... the SAME guy that sent me the list I printed...

    go figure

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  12. The list I e-mailed Mack, which he uses in this post, is the list of Mets who will be first time Rule 5 eligible in NEXT year's draft, i.e. the draft that takes place in December of 2014. The list that was posted in the comments section by "The Closer" (from my site) is the list for THIS year's draft, which will take place in December of 2013 (though I haven't updated in awhile). Hopefully, that clears up the confusion.

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