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9/13/13
Mack Ade – AM Report – 9-13-13 – Bobby V, Choo, Beltran, Dom, Wally, TC
“I've never met a pitcher who consistently repeated mechanics before age 20. Be patient; development takes time and has hills and valleys.” – Eric Cressey
Bobby V on 9-11 –
“Let it be said that during the time from 9/11 to 9/21, the Yankees were (not around),” Valentine told Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts on Wednesday. “You couldn’t find a Yankee on the streets of New York City. You couldn’t find a Yankee down at Ground Zero, talking to the guys who were working 24/7.”
“Many of them didn’t live here, and so it wasn’t their fault. And many of them did not partake in all that, so there was some of that jealousy going around. Like, ‘Why are we so tired? Why are we wasted? Why have we been to the funerals and the firehouses, and the Yankees are getting all the credit for bringing baseball back?’ And I said ‘This isn’t about credit, guys. This is about doing the right thing.’”
Mack – Did Bobby V really say this? I’ve heard and read a lot of shit coming out of his mouth over the years, but is he really going to use 9-11 as a bargaining chip against the Yankees? Jeez, what a creep.
John Heyman –
Based on the needs of the Mets and the strengths of the player, Choo looks like the biggest potential target for the Mets this winter. As an excellent corner outfielder with a big on-base percentage, he actually looks like a perfect fit, and Mets people have indeed have discussed him internally at length. With the biggest free agent Robinson Cano seen as most likely to return to the Yankees (or possibly go to the Dodgers if they make a big play for him) and Mets people comfortable with going with the emerging Juan Lagares in center field (which makes Jacoby Ellsbury an unlikely prime target for them), Choo could easily emerge as the biggest player on the Mets' radar. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/23593568/something-to-choo-on-will-mets-once-again-take-big-freeagent-plunge
Mack – Sandy Alderson made it very clear that the Mets are not going to join the bidding wars for the big dudes out there… Cano, Ellsbury, Cuban 1Bmen… Choo on one side and Beltran on the other would sure change this team overnight, especially, if Harvey comes back on opening day
Chris McShane –
Carlos Beltran: It goes without saying that a Beltran return to the Mets would be great. He’s been excellent since 2011, the year he was traded for Zack Wheeler, and hasn’t been on the disabled list since hurting his wrist with the Giants shortly after the trade. The only thing that might screw this potential reunion up—aside from his history with the Mets, of course—is if the Cardinals give him a qualifying offer for next year. With their crop of talented young players and Beltran turning 37 soon, let’s just hope that doesn’t happen. Come back, Carlos. http://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/7/19/4536460/mets-sandy-alderson-carlos-beltran-free-agent-new-york-rumors
TTF on Dominic Smith
1B - The 6’-1” left-handed hitter and, arguably the best pure prep bat in the draft, started off a little rusty hitting just .259/.359/.348 over his first 40 games for the GCL Mets. He then finished the year on a ridiculous tear, hitting .447/.512/.658 over his final 11 games, including going 4-for-6 with four doubles over three games for Kingsport of the Appy League. He has excellent bat speed, an advanced approach at the plate and should be a high-average hitter with good power numbers. This is a kid who hit .551 with a .643 OBP and struck out just 21 times over 105 games in his prep career. http://throughthefencebaseball.com/2013-mlb-draft-final-recap-first-round/37515#vSoiDb8pf7W34WxO.99
Andrew Vazzano @AVSNY - Interesting... Thoughts? - RT @DonCheech: If Wally Backman was never a Met, no one would want him as manager
I don’t know who this ‘DonCheech’ is but, he’s hit the nail on the head.
IMO, Backman, at best, would be at the Long Island Duck level, or outside of baseball signing autographs in some mall in Paramus, New Jersey. Everybody is giving him a tip of the hat for going as far as he did with an end of the season lineup just about completely different than it was at the beginning of the season. Well, all those early season guys replaced players like Ruben Tejada, Ike Davis, and Kirk Nieuwenhuis who were sent back to AAA after failing at the pro level. This didn’t make for a bad AAA team… and it may have actually made for a better one. It’s not the same as promoting 8-10 players from AA or picking apart the waivers wire.
My vote would go to Pedro Lopez as the Las Vegas manager for, hopefully, the last season the Mets will play in that city. Lopez was added yesterday to the Mets bench. Backman, who was invited last year, wasn’t invited this year. Any questions?
MetsBlog - Terry Collins all but guaranteed to be back in 2014 –
I think Matt Cerrone put it best: “In either case, it seems Collins will be manager again. That’s fine by me, so long as they give him better players to manage. I don’t care who is managing, because if he’s repeatedly asked to manage a Triple-A lineup, he’s going to get Triple-A results.”
Cerrone also says that the given is a two-year deal. I have no problem with one year, but two is okay in my book if the Mets are willing to eat the last year if things go south. The 2013 Mets have basically been David Wright, a guy coming back from a PED charge, low end free agency signees, and a bunch of kids from a system that Collins once managed. His problems in the past came from managing real star baseball players.
We don’t know how he will handle a lineup with 2-3 quality free agency signees. It would be great to find out for so many reasons..
Lastly, Mike Friere sent me an article to share with the readers here. He didn’t have the name of the author or the address of the online site, so apologies to those people. I found this interesting:
Runs Enhancement, Suppression or Both?
Sadly, since the end of the 2007 season, Mets' fans have not had a lot to cheer about. Over the last six seasons, the beginning of September usually means taking stock of what little we have and making long lists of what we need to become contenders again. This process has been extremely frustrating since the Wilpon's imposed a "soft freeze" on salary increases, which in turn has restricted Sandy's ability to dabble in free agency.
The "freeze" on salaries appears to be a thing of the past, if the rumors circulating in the media are to be believed. Our collective wishes and "list making" will be much more satisfying this off season, if that is indeed the case.
However, before lists are made and free agents are courted, isn't it wise to have an overall goal in mind first? Others may refer to that as having "a plan" in place. Once that is decided, then obtaining the "right" players is much easier, in my humble opinion. Sort of like planning a trip and knowing the best route, prior to getting in the car and driving down the street (as opposed to letting Omar drive randomly down the road at 100 miles per hour, with his eyes closed). Regardless of the plan, the following tenant must be the central theme of any personnel changes;
***Successful baseball teams score more runs than the opposition***
The Yoda of the "Sabermetrics World", Bill James, created a simple formula that uses a team's runs scored and runs allowed, to predict an overall record (expressed in winning percentage). For those of you that like math, here is the basic formula (yes, there are other versions, but this one is still pretty accurate);
(Runs Scored)2 divided by (Runs Scored)2 + (Runs Allowed)2
Let's look at our beloved Mets' breakdown, to date (prior to the Nationals game on 09/10/13);
564 runs scored and 617 runs allowed (eliminating the boring math), equals an expected winning percentage of 0.455 or a expected record of 74-88 at season's end. As we already know, we are closer to picking first in the amateur player draft, than we are to a World Series appearance. This fancy formula doesn't tell us anything new, right?
Well, let's look at just the ten teams that are projected to make the playoffs this year and what their performances have been like, looking at runs scored and runs allowed;
ATL 619-486
STL 688-541
PIT 556-516
CIN 626-525
LAD 586-511
BOS 757-595
TAM 612-574
DET 729-572
OAK 644-555
TEX 640-565
The first thing that jumps out at you is that some teams score a lot of runs (BOS, DET), yet others focus more on keeping the opponent from doing so (ATL, LAD, PIT). Ideally, you would like to be strong on both sides of the equation (like DET, who would be a juggernaut if they had a lock down closer), but achieving some balance between both is another path to success (like STL, who recently won a championship).
Another interesting topic is a comparison to a few teams (TAM, OAK and PIT) who used a "model of success" similar to the one that Sandy is using (pitching heavy, an offensive philosophy that favors on base percentage and an overall focus on developing and trading for talent, as opposed to relying just on free agency). Those three teams' collective average for our equation is 604 runs scored and 548 runs allowed, which equates to an expected winning percentage of 0.548 or a record of 89-73, which would be a wild card contender in any season.
Taking this a step further, the collective "averages" for the ten listed teams would be 646 runs scored and 544 runs allowed, which equates to an expected winning percentage of 0.585 or a record of 95-67, also known as a championship contender.
Since you have to learn to walk before you can run, let's compare the 2013 Mets to the first group (wild card contenders). Currently, they would be short by 40 runs scored (0.28 runs per game), and they have allowed 69 runs too many (0.49 runs per game). Clearly, there is much work to be done on both sides of the equation!
However, modest improvements in both runs scored (adding two more "competent" bats to the lineup) and runs allowed (the continued improvement in our young pitching staff, plus adding some talent to the bullpen and emphasizing better defense) can have a dramatic impact. Look at the progress the Pittsburgh Pirates have made in the past few seasons, by focusing on pitching, defense and maximizing offensive chances (i.e. on base percentage). They have transitioned from perennial doormats, to a serious playoff contender now and in the future.
Taking it one step further, Citi Field is geared towards run suppression, so emphasizing pitching, defense and on base percentage is the most efficient way to address runs scored AND runs allowed. I hope that Sandy sees things the same way and evaluates all of the Mets' off season moves with this common goal in mind.
If done properly, I don't see any reason why the 2014 Mets cannot follow in the 2013 Pirates' footsteps.
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Mack,
ReplyDeleteYes, the offense is lame and in need of a #1 and #4 bat, but even with its depth of young arms, the Mets still need to improve the runs against more than anything. Alderson needs to sign a legit vet starter (Kazmir, Feldman), a legit bullpen arm that can close should Parnell not be ready, and a plus defending SS. That will have more impact on RA than signing a #1 and #4 bat will on RF (even though he needs those two pieces as well).
I don't want Collins back and I never wanted Backman. What a mess.
ReplyDeleteThe Mets are smart to follow a model like Oakland, Tampa, and Pittsburg in going with strong pitching. But as those three teams are small markets and this is NYC, there's no reason except the Wilpons that the Mets can't have a great offense as well.
For a second I got confused....
ReplyDeleteIt read as if David Wright was coming back from a PED charge. Then I thought, duh, Marlon Bryd.
At this point in the season, I'm just happy the Mets are getting the shit kicked out of them. Get that protected pick, not so much for the actual pick, but so Alderson doesn't have any excuses when going into the off season.
Now, come December, if I start reading how the Mets are worried about losing a second rounder in the draft, I'm immediately becoming a Cardinals fan. There just better not be any more BS after this pathetic run of baseball. It's time to put a good product on the field.
TJ -
ReplyDeleteHow many years is it going to be okay to keep saying that this team needs more of everything?
Michael -
ReplyDeleteall this can be solved with one good dose of old time Mets off-season baseball.
You sign 5 new players... let's say LF, RF, SS, SP, RP...
Brand new team
Charley -
ReplyDeleteIt's sad when the Hot Stove season always seems to bring more excitement than real baseball.
It can be fixed. Sign 2FA of, trade for a SS, and sign reasonable SP and RP. The Wilpons can still have a payroll around 100M and we can watch a winning team.
ReplyDeleteWe can all agree that the "old" mets' teams of just 6 years ago were so different. If those teams went into the off season with a payroll of 60 million, you could bet your ass they were going to sign some of the best players out there.
ReplyDeleteI see no reason, especially after Wilpon's grand announcement during spring training, that they can't up the payroll to a very respectable 120 million. Why not?
I mean, you could easily sign Choo, Pence, and Garza for that money and still have enough left to get whatever else they might need. You could obviously change out the players if you want, but the point is that in this era of baseball, 120 million is nothing to a big market team.
Do we really need to go over all the reasons why? SNY, the new MLB tv deal that pays each team 50 million, the gift of starting an off season with a payroll as low as 50/60 million, 25 million in CitiField naming rights, all of those minority team shares they sold, and what else? Oh yeah! They play in NY where the Yankees will be dropping their payroll to 189 million. Think about that last one for a second.
The Yanks will drop their payroll to 189 million and I'm begging for them to raise theirs to 120 million! That's insane.
The Angels, Yanks, Rangers, Phillies, Dodgers, Red Sox and probably a few more teams have higher payrolls. I just want what they should be able to easily spend.
All very good points and kudos to Mack for a site that gives us Met nuts some real stick to bones news about our team. I know we all heard Freddy last spring SAY there's $$$ to spend but I still have to see it first hand. Sandy's talking about how he hate's 2nd generation contract's and normally I would agree but after 5 dreadful season's and the last 3 looking forward to the miracle of 2014 they HAVE to kill it this off season. The excuses are over but my question is: if your a free agent would you want to come here? ......Right so you know we will be paying top dollar to get anyone to come here so are we all willing to give Choo say 75-80 mil. for 5 years? I know its not our money but will this F.O. do it and that's just for starters so it should be a very interesting off season and they better get it right or God forbid Mack's Met's could turn into Mack's Nats next year!
ReplyDeleteI am printing on Sunday morning as part of 'The War Room' a letter I sent to Sandy Alderson today.
ReplyDeleteI like hard nosed players. They don't need to be superstars, they just need to hate to lose and will do anything to win. David Wright is that type. So is Murphy. I think Hunter Pence fits that mold and he'd be a great addition to the team and lineup.
ReplyDeleteI could see signing him for about 4/60-5/75, type contract. I doubt he's a guy who'd get a team to commit more than 5 years to him. I'd offer the same to Choo. If pray they both accept and move onto other things. Considering what BJ Upton got last year and what he's produced, I think these are more reasonable and safe contract offers.
I also wouldn't mind Sandy going for one and signing another good OF like Beltran to a decent Torri Hunter type deal. A 2 year/ 26 million contract. As long as they get a younger guy as well.
I'd try to stay away from Bryd. He'll likely get a deal that would be more to Sandy's liking. But seriously, what are the chances he continues his resurgence and puts up these great numbers as he continues to get older?
I also want them to sign a good, dependable starter. Not another Marcum who is pitching for incentives and has a huge injury history. If they really want to win, go out and make it happen. Nobody will blame the Wilpons rot Sandy if they sign these guys and they fail to win. The important thing is they finally turn the page on the Madoff era of the cash strapped Mets.
Hey Mack........Mike here.......I actually wrote the article I sent to you!
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting......Mike
MLBTradeRumors says The Giants are in extension talks with Pence. Too bad. He'd be a great FA target. If he signs, it further limits the list for us. Makes a run at Choo even more likely. Ellsbury might still be an option. Rajai Davis too. Stay away from Granderson.
ReplyDeleteWe need 4 front line players: 2 OF's, a SP and a SS. We shouldn't settle for mediocrity or untested kids to fill these needs. I can't see the Mets shelling out for 4 high end free agents. I'm guessing 2 will be FAs (one OF and a SP) and 2 will come via trades. The FA market for shortstops is painfully lacking. There was some talk yesterday on WFAN that the Mets were interested in J.J. Hardy. He'd be a pretty good acquisition, as would Elvis Andrus or Erick Aybar. It's difficult to say what it would take to acquire one of these shortstops.
A big question is whether, after signing a front line OF like Choo, Pence or Cruz, and a quality pitcher like Arroyo, and trading for one of those shortstops, would we still have the resources (money for a FA or trade chips for a deal) to get that additional outfielder. I hope we are not facing another winter of our discontent, and that Sandy assembles a team that will compete in 2014 and for several years after.
You'd think with Pence two months from free agency, he'd probably want to see what his market is. San Fran would probably need to overpay big time to get any agent to agree to a deal within two months from the open market. Boras is probably puking in his office when he heard these rumors...
ReplyDeleteThe Giants probably will overpay to retain Pence, and they would be smart to do so. He means much more to them than merely a great bat in the lineup. Part of the reason the Giants will extend themselves is their regret about not doing it with Beltran.
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