Matt Clark –
The Mets must have some intern in a back room who’s
assignment is to check over the stats of all the independent leagues, be them
in The States, overseas, down Mexico way, or over in the western sun. Matt
Clark is the latest to flash mad skill stats, this time from one of the
Japanese leagues. So, now the Mets (Ike Davis, Lucas Duda, Josh Satin, Wilmer
Flores) and Las Vegas (Clark, Alan Dykstra, Brandon Allen, Eric Campbell) both
have four first basemen.Makes sense to me.
Collette-Chat –
Comment From Sandy Alderson - Am I going to actually pull the
trigger on Stephen Drew?
Jason Collette: You would have done
it already if you were doing to do so. Milking it out only gives more leverage
to he and his agent as the open market could create new opportunities with
injuries that happen during camp.
Comment From John - Keith Law’s
rankings have names like Shipley and Dominic Smith pretty high… should I target
them over guys Like Clint Fraser or Kohl Stewart?
Jason Collette: I prefer taking a consensus
route with prospects. Compare what Keith does to what other organization/sites
do in their rankings and look at things from there. On Smith, he’s one of two
first base prospects I’ve seen ranked in anyone’s top 100 with Singleton being
the other. While other prospects could slide down the defensive spectrum to the
position, I think the scarcity gives added value to Smith.
Comment From Pumpsie - True ace
potential: Giolito, Bundy, Thor, Bradley, or Gray?
Jason Collette: Bradley for me
Comment From Erik - Do you see Travis
D’Arnaud providing similar stats to a 1st year Matt Wieters?
Jason Collette: Have travisd’arnaudfacts.com
been created yet? He’s capable of doing what Wieters did in 2010, but not the
2009 numbers.
Don O’Brien asked an interesting
question on Sunday morning. It was after reading my statement about refinancing
the team and the banks now allowing the Mets to go out and spend more moolah on
the roster.
Don asked that, if the Mets now went
out and spent $40mil more on the team, wouldn’t that amount be immediately
recouped the very first year via ticket sales. The answer may not be that
simple.
First of all, we’re too far down the
free agent path to change the direction this team has already gone down. Trust
me, if Sandy Alderson had $40mil more in his pocket when all of this began, you
wouldn’t see him paying Chris Young $7mil+ for one year of .200 ball.
(again... I'm no good at that 'woulda, coulda, shoulda' shit...)
The biggest problem the Mets have is
the fact that players, and their agents, feel that the team is owned and run by
an organization that isn’t ‘in it to win it’. There is no faith in the Wilpons
and, as one agent told me, ‘ the road to the World Series doesn’t go through
Willets Point’.
I look down the list of players that
signed with other clubs and I can’t honestly tell you that any of them would
have jumped at the chance of playing for this team, even if they could pay them
their worth. You are not going to chance the feelings players like Carlos
Beltran have.
Would the Mets have got involved in
the Tanaka mess? Well, that’s an entire different mindset. This has nothing to
do with what a player makes per season. It’s all about the length of the contract
and the total dollars allocated.
The vast majority of talent on this
team are not under any long term contract and are still ‘team controlled’
players; however, this is all about the change over the next three seasons.
I am sure there is a board or excel sheet somewhere projecting out where the Mets think their payroll is going in the future and, no matter how you do this, it all comes out the same. You can add new players with a ceiling of a two-year deal, and nothing more.
In 2016, 2B Daniel Murphy and RP
Bobby Parnell will become free agents unless they are first signed to a future
contract with the Mets. Both will already be making a considerable amount of
money from the arbitration process they would have just completed.
At the same time (in 2016), 1B Ike
Davis will be in his ARB-4 year, P Dillon Gee, OF Eric Young, 1B Lucas Duda,
and SS Ruben Tejada will go ARB-3.
But things are about to get real
expensive. Jenrry Mejia will be ARB-2 and Matt Harvey will lead a crew that
includes Jeurys Familia into ARB-1.
The Mets already project Harvey’s
ARB-1 numbers to mirror David Price’s and, by 2016, that could be quite the
under estimated number.
And then… here comes Zack Wheeler and
Noah Syndergaard.
The point I’m trying to make is that
the majority of future talent for this team is probably already in the
organization, especially when it comes to pitching. The rotation alone could
cost them $100mil/yr someday.
So, back to the $40mil.
Yes, I would go out right now and
sign me up a quality name, even if I had to lose another draft pick. The team
needs at least one more proven bat to round out the 2014 lineup. The
player? I would ‘give in’ to Scott Boras’
demands and sign SS Stephen Drew to a two or three year deal. It’s long, but
not too long. He’s a good player, and fits the lineup. And, frankly, Ruben
Tejada immediately becomes another trade chip.
But… I might use the rest of the
money to negotiate a deal with some of my players that are already in the
arbitration process. My team can’t have enough contracts like Jon Niese. They’re
cheap, not super long, and very attractive in a future trade proposal.
Regarding the return of ticket sales, that simply isn't going to happen until the product on the field wins more games. The fans will return if you can get the Mets to an above .500 team, but, in my opinion, it is going to take the return of Matt Harvey to continue this team in the right direction.
You create a team that is three games out going into September, and trust me, fans will return.
Managing a future projected team budget can be treacherous - and expensive indeed. It would still be good to see Drew and not Tejada, as if things break right, they stay in race longer and give Wilpons more attendance $$ to spend.
ReplyDeleteBut I am intrigued by Flores - saw picture of him from fitness facility - if he could quicken up a bit and be close to average defensively at SS as a result, his hitting would far exceed Tejada's - a cheap in-house solution.
Tommy -
ReplyDeleteMorning.
I have no idea who started all this 'Flores return to SS' stuff, but I'd like to kill him with one hand and pat him on the back with the other.
Wilmer Flores' bat is major league ready. His offense doesn't need to return to AAA and he has the strength, bat speed and talent to outhit any Met in 2014. He easily would project to 80+ RBIs.
The other thing is is actually hits better when runners are in scoring position. He's an RBI machine.
Now, the bad part... you have to find a position for him (National League) and shortstop isn't where you usually bury someone.
He's done that position badly and, if you want to go ahead this spring and play him there in spring training, you've ruined every positive positioning you have done with Ruben Tejada all off-season.
I'm telling you... he's odd man out unless there is an injury at either 1B, 2B, or SS.
Send him to Vegas and let him learn first base, a position the Mets should have had him playing two years ago.
Sandy Alderson started this "Flores to SS stuff." Now he could just be saying that to up his trade value or get more leverage in negotiations with Drew.
ReplyDeletehttp://metsblog.com/metsblog/wilmer-flores-could-play-ss-in-spring-training/
Mack, What I was thinking was an investment of about 40 million on two proven 90-100 RBI home run hitters to slot into 1st base and left field would make us contenders, since our pitching is pretty darn good. Even one such hitter at first base plus Stephgen Drew at SS would make us contenders in the National League East. In which case the ticket sales would rise and repay the 40 million investment. At this point in the year I don't know if such a player is out there. Maybe Cruse.
ReplyDeleteI read somewhere that the bank may have imposed a salary cap, which is now removed with the recent 250 million dollar extension of the loan. If so, I would spend. Otherwise the attendance and revenue may continue to drop as it has for the last four years. Putting a good product on the field will guarantee a return to sales and revenue increase. What other business can guarantee that. A decrease from four million tickets sold down to two million occurred since 2009. I know Citi doesn't hold as many people as Shea, but a contending team could easily sell over three million tickets and add 50 to 100 million a year in revenue. Also, don't forget the windfall 30 or 40 million every team received this year for the TV deal. We were promised a good team by 2014, and I can't, from a business point of view, understand this 87 million payroll, pretty much the same as last year. Can you?
Don OBrien said...
ReplyDeleteMack, Iposted tis comment on yesterday's blog and then realized we had moved on. It was in reference to your mentioning of my Sunday morning comments:
Mack, What I was thinking was an investment of about 40 million on two proven 90-100 RBI home run hitters to slot into 1st base and left field would make us contenders, since our pitching is pretty darn good. Even one such hitter at first base plus Stephgen Drew at SS would make us contenders in the National League East. In which case the ticket sales would rise and repay the 40 million investment. At this point in the year I don't know if such a player is out there. Maybe Cruse.
I read somewhere that the bank may have imposed a salary cap, which is now removed with the recent 250 million dollar extension of the loan. If so, I would spend. Otherwise the attendance and revenue may continue to drop as it has for the last four years. Putting a good product on the field will guarantee a return to sales and revenue increase. What other business can guarantee that. A decrease from four million tickets sold down to two million occurred since 2009. I know Citi doesn't hold as many people as Shea, but a contending team could easily sell over three million tickets and add 50 to 100 million a year in revenue. Also, don't forget the windfall 30 or 40 million every team received this year for the TV deal. We were promised a good team by 2014, and I can't, from a business point of view, understand this 87 million payroll, pretty much the same as last year. Can you?
Don -
ReplyDeleteThere are multiple banks, none of whih seem to have any restrictions right now.
A lot of people have different numbers here, but the rough estimate is the Mets and SNY are worth around $2bil combined and owe $1bil combined.
Also, none of the Wilpons owe a penny personally.
You and I should be this broke.
I only understand the payroll based on the amount of money that came off vs. the amount the Mets have spent this year.
ReplyDeleteRemember, the Mets are in the top 10 teams for spending this off-season.
Like last year, the main reason the Mets haven't seem to have spent more is Sandy Alderson's reluctance to sign long term contracts and lose draft picks.
We all were mad at him last year over this and now we love him because of Dom Smith.
There is still 50+ days left before ST... the dealing isn't over yet.