DUDA AND CESPEDES: ANOTHER TAKE by Tom Brennan
Decision time is soon to come regarding outfielder Yoenis
Cespedes, as it concerns the Mets. It
seems the early chatter has him not coming back to the Mets – too expensive.
On the other hand, playoffs force Daniel Murphy was given a
qualifying offer, which probably leads him to sign elsewhere, and the Mets will
get a sandwich pick. My thoughts of
signing Murphy for 1B and trading Duda would then become null and void.
So how would a Duda/Cespedes combo for the Mets make sense in 2016? The answer would be 4 listening ears between the two men, and those two men listening to a persuasive Kevin Long. And what would Kevin tell them, to turn them into a feared combo in the middle of the Mets’ line up?
STOP TAKING FIRST OR SECOND PITCH MEATBALLS
Of course, I will take it one step further. Stop taking meatballs, period.
As an example, I recall in the Series, vs. KC, that Chris
Young had just retired the first two hitters in a 4-4 game on the road in extra
innings. Once the count went 3-0 to Duda,
he should have, in the oft-repeated words of Keith Hernandez, been looking for
a pitch he could drive. Instead he took
two 90 MPH very hittable fastballs down the center of the plate, and then
struck out on a pitcher’s pitch. Aargh!
But forget about 3-0 counts for a minute. Both Cespedes and Duda take a lot of
down-the-middle fastballs on 0-0 and 1-0 counts. If you are like me, you probably have often
exclaimed, “why did you not swing at THAT pitch?”
What do they do when they end their at bats on 0-0 and 1-0
counts in their careers? They dazzle:
- Duda is hitting about .350 in 358 such at bats, with 29 doubles and 29 homers.
- Cespedes is hitting .355 in 366 such at bats, with 24 doubles and 23 homers.
Terrific. But both
only end their at bats on those counts about:
a paltry 15% of the time. TOO LOW!!
Daniel Murphy, by comparison? In his career, he goes 21.5%, with similar .345 hitting and lots of extra base hits in at bats ending on those 0-0, 1-0 counts. And 21.5% vs. 15% means about 40 more of those favorable at bats over a full season.
What about at bats ending later than on 0-0, 1-0 counts?
Once Duda and Cespedes are past such favorable counts, they both still do very well in at bat ending on counts of 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, and 3-1.
But both really stink when the at bat ends with the count having reached 2 strikes (0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2), Duda even more than Cespedes. But in both cases, they make outs, after being in some version of a 2 strike count, a real lot: Cespedes around 50%, and Duda nearly 54% of the time (Murphy just 42%). It is counter productive for both Cespedes and Duds to get into 2 strike counts with such great frequency – but they do, in part, due to staring at early-in-the-count meatballs.
Solutions?
1)
For both of them, if the pitcher throws a first
pitch fastball that catches the sweet part of the plate, swing, swing, swing…and
swing. Naps are encouraged but not while hitting.
2)
If they do #1, pitchers will be more apt to
nibble on the first pitch, leading to more first pitch balls and thus more 1-0 counts.
3)
If 1-0 is reached and the pitcher throws a pitch
that catches the sweet part of the plate, swing, swing, swing…and swing.
4)
If they could get their 15% ratio of 0-0 and 1-0
counts up to 25% to 30%, their #s would greatly improve.
5)
If they get 2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1 meatball pitches,
don’t take them, swing, swing, swing…and swing.
Consider
the Royals. They took very few
meatballs. Result? Less strikeouts, more offense.
SO...I still say sign
Cespedes, and then convince these 2 hitters of the aforementioned more aggressive hitting philosophy,
and I think we’d see them combine for 70-80 homers, or more, and a real step up in
overall production.
Consider
when the Mets’ radio broadcast starts.
The adrenaline highlight sound clips are of…homers. To hit homers, one must swing at favorable, hittable pitches.
These
2 guys are capable of more offensively…just stop taking meatballs…and we will get into
another World Series in 2016 – and the Mets will sell a LOT of tickets.
I
rest my case. What do you think?
Tom -
ReplyDeleteI never considered the decision whether or not Cesoedes stayed a Met was in their ballpark. This has always been a Cespedes decision and now that he's a FA, I don't expect much to be heart about this issue anymore either from their camp or Alderson.
As for Duda, when you get down on someone, you can really stay down on them.
I'm fine with Duda for 2016, especially if Murphy leaves. The Mets seem highly invested in Dominic Smith for the future of this position and I'd rather spend my 2016 dollars on... here I go again... better middle infield defense, one or two quality middle relievers, and a possible platoon partner for Lagares. Nothing sexy.
Yep, I have been rough on Duda, Mack. I just want to see him be more aggressive and not waste first strikes. He'd hit with more power and hopefully fewer Ks.
ReplyDeleteI realize Cespedes may be gone, as Mets won't be willing to offer enough. Maybe the revision of his contract to allow the Mets equal chance to sign him as other clubs was just window dressing at the time.
If he could stop being so willing to take first pitch strikes, he might be the best guy available in OF, in terms of an acquistioncworth the cost. But, as you say, they may look to improve other areas than the outfield. Hopefully their plans are, whomever they acquire, to look to try to have a dominating team from day 1. With Mets pitching, they are already 75% of the way there.
All I can say is that as players approach the plate they are called 'Hitters".
ReplyDeleteThey are not referred to as "Walkers". (totally different tv show)
Sure, be smart and don't swing at pitches that you are unable to make good contact on.
But,
The player should be going to the plate looking at each pitch as their opportunity to do damage.
Watching Duda continually let fat pitches go right by him and then wave at balls in the dirt like Tiger Woods was one of the most frustrating parts of the playoffs.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the Mets made a bid on the Korean 1B tells me that no matter what they say publicly, there's no real commitment to the Dude. I won't cry if they trade him and fill 1B with a RH slugger as part of their offseason plan.
@ Bob and Michael:
ReplyDeleteMore on Duda:
When his at bats in 2015 ended on less than 2 strike counts, he had 203 at bats and 43 HBP and walks. In those 203 at bats, he hit .355 with 23 doubles and 21 homers.
Once he got to 2 strikes, 268 official at bats, .175, 10 doubles and 6 homers.
Obviously, a guy can go from 1 strike to 2 strikes by swinging and missing, or fouling balls off, or taking nasty strikes. Hitting is not easy. But it shows how successful Duda is in early counts and how unsuccessful when he gets to 2 strikes. If he were a lot more aggressive, it is logical to think his overall results would really improve.
And I know that is what I'd want from him...expanded power hitting.
Bob - well said, especially the 'walker' reference
ReplyDeleteTom -
ReplyDeleteevery team has the same stats on Duda and know how much he sucks with 2 strikes on him. That's why they load up on secondary pitches at that point that wind up in the dirt.
I may be wrong, but I always thought that Duda was a little obsessed with this BB thing... I would hate to see him waste all this poweron another sub .250 season
I agree with you 100%, Mack. Duda can be dealt with on 2 strikes. His job is to try to get to 2 strikes a lot less. Forget working the pitcher. Work the fences instead.
ReplyDeleteIt always seemed to be the same routine with Duda. Work the count to 3-1, that one strike being a fat pitch down the middle, foul one off (strike 2), and then K on a ball at his feet. It was so sadly predictable.
ReplyDeleteLucas Duda is not becoming something different--- He IS...accept the ISness!
ReplyDeleteI favor keeping Murh, dealing Duda---would love Cespee back
Hey Eraff, I think Duda COULD change. Look at Grandy last year. But I don't think Duda wiil, to Michael's point. I 100% agree with keeping Murph, dealing Duda, bringing Cespedes back. He added a rare thrill to the Mets line up the last 2 months...OFFENSE!
ReplyDeleteWhat is all of this based on??
ReplyDeleteI have never read or heard anything like this regarding Cespedes.
Bob G... this is Mets "Stepford Mets Fans"---- Big Swallow on nasty ownership leeks.
ReplyDeleteI will never ever Forget...forgive...Relent on my dislike for the terrible ownership in place. These are not Honorable People...These are NOT good people.
PS... established players are what they are.... tight ranges of output. You never can PERFECT a player---you just put them in the right situations. You accept some of the Warts...try to camouflage the weaknesses---and this goes back to the situations you place them in..
ReplyDelete...and the players you choose for the situtaions.
Cespee is a FANTASTIC Player---he's not Ken Griffey JR....but he's a fantastic piece.
Peter Hyatt, Bob G and eraff, great feedback. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI will say that having strong hitting to support our pitchers is really important...check out my article at noon today.