In football, there’s a well-known and accepted mantra that
defense wins championships. Forbes,
however, thinks that this philosophy is no longer valid, and their study showed
that defense may help you into the post-season but it’s offense that gets the ring.
Similarly, there’s a similar axiom in the world of baseball
that good pitching beats good hitting.
While that is somewhat true, a .300 hitter might indeed become a .240
hitter against an All-Star caliber arm.
That 20% reduction in offensive potential by the opposition is certainly
nothing to sneeze at.
I thought about this conundrum when Mack brought up the need
to continue to draft pitchers at the expense of developing hitters in-house. He suggested you buy your hitters and develop
your pitchers. Is that indeed the right
approach to take?
In my reply to him I’d stated that the Big Red Machine had
stellar offense and mediocre-at-best pitching yet won handily. My poster child for stellar pitching not
being a guarantee of winning games is reigning Cy Young Award winner Jacob
deGrom who was nearly Bob Gibson stingy with allowing runs to score, yet finished
with a paltry won-loss record.
Over the years the Mets have developed a reputation for
developing pitchers. In-house talent
included Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Craig Swan, Dwight Gooden, Jacob deGrom,
Steven Matz, Tug McGraw, Jeurys Familia and others.
Please do remember, however, that some of the best pitchers the Mets have had, including Sid Fernandez, Ron Darling, Noah Syndergaard, Zack Wheeler, John Franco and others were not Mets draft choices but obtained in trade. To be fair you would have to add Hall of Famer Nolan Ryan to the first list, though saying that causes most fans to gnash their teeth.
Please do remember, however, that some of the best pitchers the Mets have had, including Sid Fernandez, Ron Darling, Noah Syndergaard, Zack Wheeler, John Franco and others were not Mets draft choices but obtained in trade. To be fair you would have to add Hall of Famer Nolan Ryan to the first list, though saying that causes most fans to gnash their teeth.
On the flip side, how many bats have the Mets
developed? I’ll give you Cleon Jones, Edgardo
Alfonzo, Hubie Brooks, David Wright, Michael Conforto, Jeff McNeil and Pete Alonso. Most of the great hitters the team has had,
including Mike Piazza, John Olerud, Keith Hernandez and others came from elsewhere.
Many quality pitching acquisitions came from outside the organization. The likes of Johan Santana, Bobby
Ojeda, Al Leiter, Edwin Diaz, Mike Hampton, George Stone, Armando Benitez and
others helped the club when healthy and a few times towards the
post-season. Add in some free agent
acquisitions like Pedro Martinez, Billy Wagner and others, and you will see it’s
entirely possible to fortify your ballclub this way as well.
So therein lies the question…do you draft power arms and
only power arms, power bats and only power bats, or simply take the best
available player when your turn comes up in the draft? Tom Brennan advocates not only power bats and power arms but power baserunners. Personally, I find it especially annoying knowing
that when the club falls behind a single run or two that we’ve experienced a
great many teams for which that minor bump in the road was their own Mt.
Everest. I’d rather be a single swing
away from winning at nearly every at-bat and made do with good if not great pitching.
What all is your take?
Do you want to attempt the guys like the recently departed Gershon
Bautista who came over in trade, able to hurl a baseball 100 mph but with no
clue where it’s going to go? Or do you
want more guys like Pete Alonso able to hit the ball nearly 500 feet but
strikes out a bit too much? Or would you
prefer more contact hitters like Jeff McNeil (and Gavin Cecchini and Reese
Havens and many others) whose hit tool is about getting singles (McNeil’s minor
league 2018 season notwithstanding)?
I just hope the new FO sparkles in this roll of drafting and signing our future players because BVW's first off season's moves may haunt us for years. It would be great if we could finally build a BP we could count on because this issue has killed us seemingly forever as the difference between winning those 2 games blown by the BP giving us a solid 4-3 trip and instead we're 2 and 5 is likely to cost Mickey his job and we start all over again with the manager search. Probably my biggest question for BVW is with the infield the way it was set up to start the season with Alonso/Smith, Cano Rosario and McNeil/Frazier where was Lowrie going to play? I get Davis was a bench player but 2 years for 20 mil could have been better used in the BP as was that crazy contract to Familia which we all questioned last winter.
ReplyDeleteThere will be no up front sparkling in the draft this year.
ReplyDeleteThere are no Jarred Kelenic's or Casey Mise's in this draft. In particular, the pitching is really sub-par for a draft.
Best bet for instant results: college bats and the 2 special catchers.
Still, I stick to my guns and say we need more college starters. Draft 3 and 1 might make it in 3 years.
And I did change my 1.12 pick for the Mets to be catcher Shea Langeliers (if he is still on the board). If not, back to pitching.
I'm firmly in the "best player available" camp. Like a "real" farm, our system plants seeds (draft and international signings), grows them, keeps what we need, and sells/trades others. Whatever your opinion of the Diaz /Cano deal, it took our "crops" to get what we wanted. And, as Reese pointed out, some our best and most important players have been "grown" elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteIf our system is heavy on SS prospects, as it is, and the best player available at our turn, should we reject him for that reason? Of course not!
Very few picks, especially those taken after the 2nd round, actually make it to the majors, and few of those who do, get there with the team that drafted them.
Baseball is not like Basketball and Football, where draft picks are expected to immediately play for the ML team. By the time a drafted player in MLB is ML-ready, a lot of needs change.
Go for the best, regardless of position!
Bill -
ReplyDeleteBTW -
there may be only one 5-tool player in this draft... OF Jerion Ealy who will probably play footbll instead.
Reese:
ReplyDeleteI struggle with this conundrum every season. I want to say "go for the best athlete regardless of position" but with so few top quality big-bats in the system, now and traditionally, it's hard to not want another Alosno-type with the first pick.
I'm thinking they go for LHP Thompson with that first pick, then go heavy into position players but we shall see...
and BTW- you forgot one homegrown stud by the name of DARRYL STRAWBERRY!!!!
Great post and great debate!
@David That's what happens when I write from memory without consulting rosters 😀
DeleteGood second round heavy bat prospects -
ReplyDelete2B Wil Wilson
3B Rece Hinds
3B Dew Mendoza
OF Kam Misner
OF Mike Toglia
I like high school hitters and college pitchers. College catchers and Big texas hs rhps. Sometimes you want the near finished college hitter. The baseball draft is such a crapshoot compared to the other sports, it seems like you should never draft for need and taking ceiling over floor unless floor is a college infielder guaranteed to make the bigs is the right way to go. To many variables not to bet on potential. I would also think about in those middle 5-9 rounds look for guys who will be relievers as in todays game thats a lot of value.
ReplyDeleteAs you may remember, I was very critical of the Cano trade for a lot of reasons.
ReplyDeleteWho were the Mets competing against? there were no other teams interested in a tainted player with a big contract so why give Kelenic on such a deal? Stupid then, worse than that now.
Every GM that comes up with a team wants to impress with a big trade. The agent did not pass the test on the Cano trade or the Broxton trade. But whatever, at least Davis has potential.
Drafting for me. Get the best position player available on the first go around. Why? because most teams will go for pitchers which are a lot more difficult to project while ignoring position players. That means you get a very good player with your first round draft pick.
Too bad the Agent traded for Cano. Otherwise the Mets could have had 5 or 6 players on the MLB top 100 prospects.