Here’s an idea for a post that Mack’s Mets reader Bob W.
came up with, the All Time, All New York Born Mets Team.
Luckily, the
Ultimate Mets Data Base site has the full listing of Mets Players by state of
Birth which makes the task easier.
First there are four obvious choices such as Hempstead Born Frank Viola,
Brooklyn’s John Franco
and Eddie
Kranepool and Lee
Mazzilli who were both born in Manhattan.
Still, there are not some obvious choices.
For example, Joe Foy
has a higher Mets OPS than Joe Torre
(only by 1 point – but it surprised me that it was even close).
Also, I am going by each players Mets’ numbers or else
Buffalo born Warren
Spahn or Manhattan born John
Candelaria would make it.
My Starting Pitchers are led by Frankie V, 82 Games, 38-32 3.31
ERA over 3 years including a 20 win season in 1990.
Two pitchers from Brooklyn are next, Pete Falcone,
145 Games, 26-37 3.91 ERA, 8 Complete Games, 2 Shut Outs and Ed Lynch,
167 Games, 38-40, 3.82 ERA, 7 Complete Games, 1 Shut Out.
Stony Brook’s Steven Matz,
103 Games, 31-36, 4.05 ERA, 1 Complete Game, 1 Shut Out. He has a real shot at being the winningest
NY born Mets pitcher if he keeps going a few more years.
The Bronx’s Bob Shaw
from the 1960’s, 49 starts over 2 years, 14-19, 4.06 ERA, 10 Complete Games, 3
Shut Outs.
In one year, Buffalo’s Orel
Hershiser went 13 -12 with a 4.58 ERA in 32 games which puts him near the
top in wins of NY born Mets pitchers.
John Franco
pitched more games than any other New Yorker for the Mets, 695, has the most
wins, 48, loses, 56, and saves, 276, with a 3.10 ERA over 14 Mets seasons.
Manhattan’s Larry Bearnarth
has the second most games pitched, 171 for a 13-21 record, 4 ERA.
In 2002, Buffalo’s Mark
Guthrie pitched in 68 games, 5-3, 2.44 ERA, 1 save.
Buffalo’s Kevin Kobel,
12-18, 76 games (36 starts), 2 Complete Games, 1 Shut out.
The Flushing Flash, Ed Glynn,
84 games, 4-7, 3.53 ERA, 8 saves.
I counted only 5 NY born catchers for the Mets. Paul Lo Duca
from Brooklyn would be my starter, 243 games, 14 HR, 103 RBI, .297/.334/.404,
.739 OPS.
The next most games caught were from Manhattan’s Norm Sherry
63 in 1963, 2 HR, 11 RBI, .136/.205/.184, .389 OPS. Johnny
Monell from the Bronx and Brooklyn’s Joe Pignatano
just 27 games caught each. Manhattan’s Joe Ginsberg,
just two games caught.
Speaking of the Bronx, Bobby
Bonilla is my NY born Right Fielder, 515 games, 95 HR, 295 RBIs, .270/.356/.495;
.851 OPS.
Lee
Mazzilli is in CF, 979 games, 68 HR, 353 RBIs, 152 SBs, .264/.357/.396; .753
OPS.
In Left Field, I have Brooklyn’s Tommy Davis,
he had a good year in 1967, 16 HR, 73 RBIs, .302/.342/.440; .782 OPS.
Backing up in the Outfield there is Manhattan born Ken
Singleton, 18 HR, 72 RBIs, 252/.369/.387; .756 OPS and Queens native Mike Baxter,
185 games and one No Hitter saving catch, 4 HR, 25 RBIs, .232/.340/.354, .694
OPS.
I also have Utica’s Chris Jones,
168 games, 12 HR, 49 RBIs, .263/.318/.423; .741.
In his 18 years, Ed
Kranepool racked up more games, 1,853 (most in Mets history), hits, 1,418
(3rd most in Mets History behind Wright and Reyes), HRs, 118, RBIs, 614
(5th in Mets history) than any other NY Born player. Gotta be the First Baseman on this team.
At 2B, I am going with T.J. Rivera
from the Bronx, 106 games, 8 HR, 43 RBI, .304/.335/.445; .780 OPS.
SS, Franklin Square’s Al Weis,
yes he slashed .191/.245/.253 with a .498 OPS but he hit over .400 in the 1969
WS.
Manhattan’s Damion
Easley hit a lot better than Al Weis but was more of a utility player by
the time he came to the Mets, 16 HR, 70
RBI, .273/.336/.407, .742 OPS.
3B? Joe Torre,
254 games, 12 HR, 75 RBIs, .267/.327/.374, .701 OPS or Joe Foy,
99 games, 6 HR, 37 RBIs, 22 SBs, .236/.373/.329, .702 OPS.
In the next few years we will probably see Medford’s Marcus
Stroman and Manhattan born Dellin Betances
stick around long enough to make an impact on this list.
Here’s hoping for more NY born players to make it to the
Mets in the coming years.
Very good. Thanks John.
ReplyDeleteBob W.
I'll do a shout-out for Mike Jorgensen of Bayside. Had two stints with the Mets. Not a star, but a local guy who made good.
ReplyDeleteBob W.
Bob,
ReplyDeleteUltimate Mets had Mike J. being born in NJ. Also, Willie Randolph being born in SC. Maybe the guys born in another state but grew up in NY is another post...
A thin All-Star squad, that's for sure :)
ReplyDeleteCollectively, not much in terms of pitching results from New York-born Mets while with the Mets, with the notable exception of the great John Franco.
ReplyDeleteBetter on the hitters' side with Krane, Mazzilli, and Bobby "still getting paid" Bonilla.
Nice job, John.
A fun post.
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ReplyDeleteJohn, seeing Pete Falcone on this list made me smile. He managed to have a decent major league career, and he wasn't terrible for the Mets. He had a knuckle curve that was effective when he could actually control it. I remember watching so many games where he would look great for a while and then fall apart. Didn't help that he pitched for some bad teams, but his ERA+ with the Mets was below average. Looking back he reminds me of Sid Fernandez with much less talent. Sid had that knack for cruising along and then losing it suddenly, too.
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff, thanks
Mike, I think the fact that he followed the period of Tom Seaver, Kossman, etc., made it tougher for Pete Falcone but I agree with you. He was overall pretty good for the Mets.
DeleteI did not know Jorgensen was born in NJ. Knew he went to high school in either Bayside or Flushing. Oh well
ReplyDeleteBob W.
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