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3/31/21

Breaking News - Mets and Lindor agree to Deal.

 

According to Jon Heyman, the Mets and Francisco Lindor have agreed to a contract. 

 









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13 comments:

  1. John From AlbanyMarch 31, 2021 at 11:38 PM

    Nobody will be eviscerated. Lindor is a Met for the next 11 years. Just keep him away from the wild boars on the Cespedes ranch please.

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  2. TexasGusCCMarch 31, 2021 at 11:51 PM

    Conforto’s asking price just went up. If Lindor, who has averaged about 5.6 fWAR the last four years gets $34MM per year, what does Conforto who has averaged 4.1 fWAR get? At least $25/year. I’m happy, but not happy at the same time. Then you have Thor, Stroman, Nimmo, not even mentioning what the best pitcher in baseball should get, arbitrations start next year for the polar bear and the squirrel... if I was a Wilpon, I’d faint.

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  3. John From AlbanyMarch 31, 2021 at 11:59 PM

    Great point Gus. That is why I would have kept Gimenez and looked to get a CF...though Springer starts the year on the DL with an oblique strain (and never played more than 80 some-odd games in CF in one year).

    But we went and got Lindor and now we can keep him. Time to enjoy the ride.

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  4. TexasGusCCApril 1, 2021 at 12:57 AM

    John, I’d be a hypocrite if I said that I regret the deal as I would have done it in a heartbeat. I just didn’t believe that Gimenez had much offensive upside and if Lindor gives you the CF offense, then filling the center field spot gives the team that much more. I felt “the get” was good enough but I wasn’t expecting the Tatis deal. That was assenine by a team that makes assenine deals sometimes, i.e. Eric Hosmer. The Padres saved nothing by making that deal and they certainly had time to wait. So, now we probably have to choose between Conforto or Stroman, and I’m not sure which way I lean. For sure, I felt signing Springer to that deal would be a mistake seeing how he was already 31 years old, and I didn’t like his CF metrics at all.

    Question for you: If you had to pick “The Core 4” like the Yankees had for those championship runs, who are they?

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  5. TexasGusCCApril 1, 2021 at 1:11 AM

    I ask you this John because I’m thinking the Mets may not have a Core 4 yet - and I notice the Yankees “Core 4” were all players that lined up in the middle of the field. That couldn’t have been an accident. The Mets have three in Lindor, DeGrom and Syndergaard, that is elite talents that check all the boxes of their perspective positions, but I feel that Conforto, Nimmo, Alonso, Smith, McNeil, while all are good players they aren’t two-way stud all-star types. Hence, how do you feel about passing on signing Conforto, moving McNeil to right field next year, and signing Javier Baez for second base, or third base and put Guillorme at second. That would be a strong Core 4, and I don’t think Baez will command too much more than Conforto. And Baez is a strong righty hitter this lineup needs.

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  6. Tom BrennanApril 1, 2021 at 4:53 AM

    Gus, sounds like a plan to me.

    By the way, on Gimenez, he was 4 for 4 in the first two games of spring, but 9 for 46 thereafter. It is unclear if he can truly hit, and if so, how much.

    The past is past...brave new day.

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  7. John From AlbanyApril 1, 2021 at 7:18 AM

    Gus, Very solid plan and way to approach a team in the future.

    I think we have possible options in the minors until Pete Crow is ready in CF. He can play defense and has the speed. We will see how his bat progresses.

    James McCann will catch until Francisco Alvarez is ready.

    Don't discount Wilmer Reyes. This year will be a big test for him but he could be a righty Luis Guillorme with speed that could either serve as a platoon with Luis or as a low cost Jonathan Villar.

    Finally Manny Rodriguez and Carlos Cortes should be in the mix as well.

    Through it all Lindor is now our corner piece for the ten years.

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  8. Remember1969April 1, 2021 at 9:39 AM

    So the McCann contract that many people thought was an overpay is worth less than one-eighth of Lindor's. I'm not even sure what my point is there, but this money is getting pretty stupid.

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  9. Remember1969April 1, 2021 at 9:48 AM

    I think 2021 is the year we will all see who Conforto really is. His BABIP was crazy high in 2020, but he does spray the ball hard all over, the qualities that drive a good average and high BABIP.

    He was showing signs of being the leader of the team last year - articles popped up here and there that indicated the Mets were now "Conforto's Team"; I saw one that opined that he would be the next captain and a David Wright type as a home grown star. It will be interesting to see how it plays out with Conforto now that this seems to have quickly become "Lindor's Team".

    With all that, does he become a $25M a year keeper, or will Gus's thought of letting him go and moving McNeil out be the better play?

    I actually think that there should be discussion of extending both Syndergaard and Stroman before Conforto.

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  10. TexasGusCCApril 1, 2021 at 10:32 AM

    Thank you all for your thoughts. 69, extending the two pitchers is a thought, but what’s more important, a 4.0-ish WAR starting pitcher or a 4.0-ish WAR everyday player? That’s the Conforto/Stroman question. LOL, I guess that’s why they have the same WAR, so it really depends on your team construction.

    Thank you Tom for the Giminez update, I hadn’t looked.

    John, PCA may lead the next round, but I don’t look at any of the prospects able to help in the next 2-3 years which will be the window of having your pieces in prime age and also mostly here. Smith, Alonso, McNeil only have a short time left. Then JDG will be 37, Conforto and Nimmo will be 32, and Syndergaard will be 33. Still, good support types but they will have to mold the next Core then.

    Just spitballing stuff for now.

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  11. Remember1969April 1, 2021 at 10:42 AM

    Gus, I think that Allan and McGinn will be pushed along fairly quickly. They'll be careful with McGinn this year, but because he was a college guy, he will move fast after he proves he is healthy. I can see a cup of coffee in 2022 and a starting spot in 2023. Allan, while younger in years, seems like he is ready for more.

    And we should not forget that Peterson was actually the 20th overall pick in the first round, so the promise he showed last year is probably real.

    Hmm. . maybe I've talked myself into thinking that extending Thor and Stro may not be so important after all :-)

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  12. Tom BrennanApril 1, 2021 at 11:49 AM

    Extend everybody...It’s only money, right?

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  13. Tom BrennanApril 1, 2021 at 11:51 AM

    Gus, one guy who turned his spring sharply positive is Flexen. Last 2 outings totaled 8 strong scoreless innings. Maybe Korea really did straighten him out

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