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12/16/24

Reese Kaplan -- OK, So What's Next For the Mets?


OK folks...it’s been more than a week since Christmas arrived and Santa Claus gift wrapped Juan Soto for the Mets’ holiday treat.  (No offense to any non-Christian observers or non-observers intended).

Now that the first major chip has been added to the 2025 roster, what happens next?  Yes, the club has secured the services of Frankie Montas who has had moments but never made an All Star team nor won any of baseball’s performance awards.  He holds a career 4.09 ERA which would rank him right around the 4th or 5th starters on other teams.  

Then they added reliever Clay Holmes with the intention of giving him the Seth Lugo treatment and seeing how he fares mid-career as a newly minted starting pitcher after success in the pen.  His numbers are much better with a 3.05 ERA during his 2021 through 2024 work period primarily for the Yankees.  Still, with a limited repertoire of pitches there is some risk associated with this gamble.

At this point no one is sure what the offense will resemble.  To hear a pessimist like me tell it, you are banking on no first baseman, an injury recovering prospect at third base, a .189 hitter acquired in trade with the Rays, and four 2024 Mets who performed below career expectations in Jeff McNeil, Starling Marte, Francisco Lindor and Brandon Nimmo.  Tyrone Taylor was fairly consistent but his resume is that of a 4th outfielder, not a contending team’s starter. 


With the celebrations, media frenzy and early sale of Soto number 22 jerseys seemingly taking precedence over everything else, the Winter Meetings started and ended without the Mets adding anyone to the Major League Roster.  Granted, none of us were there to eavesdrop on David Stearns’ telephone nor peek at his social media and email accounts, but the assumption is that a great many conversations took place to build some rudimentary groundwork for follow ups from the comfort of baseball executives’ home offices after returning from Dallas.  Steve Cohen certainly seems to want to build a renewable winner.

On the first base front, there’s Pete Alonso as a possibility, of course.  However, if he goes elsewhere since he already turned down the Mets package offered for multiple years then who else is on the radar?  Christian Walker is the closest people would have to remembering Keith Hernandez manning first base, but although he has decent power he is only a career .250 hitter.  His best season was likely 2023 when he slugged 33 HRs and drove in 103 while gaining the second of his three consecutive Gold Gloves.  His last season was played for a salary of $10.9 million.  As a free agent that number will jump significantly, but likely not much higher than a $16-$18 million per year range based upon the number of years offered.  Already three years older than Alonso, he’s an adequate and less costly replacement but not spectacular.

A totally different approach could be taken in the J.D. Martinez mold by targeting first baseman at the tail end of their careers who are available as free agents likely at worst for a 1 year plus 1 year option contract.  This list would include Carlos Santana, Paul Goldschmidt and Justin Turner.  This plan would leave the 1st base position open for 2026 when theoretically Vlad Guerrero, Jr. would be a free agent. 

At 2nd base you have the choices in-house of Luisangel Acuna, Jeff McNeil and Ronny Mauricio.  It would seem that McNeil is probably the least interesting of this trio having strung together back-to-back poor seasons after winning the batting championship in 2022.

At third base the position belongs to Mark Vientos unless he shifts across the diamond to play 1st base in which case the same would-be second basemen could play third or the Mets could look to shake things up by obtaining a veteran on the block like Nolan Arenado.

The outfield right now seems OK with Nimmo in LF and Soto manning RF.  It is in CF where there is certainly room for improvement.  Right now it would seem that Marte is the elder statesman DH unless or until they acquire someone with more run production in his bat. 

Next week we’ll take a closer look at the pitching market for the rotation and for the pen.  The Mets have lots of holes to fill in both places.    

12 comments:

  1. They need to build a strong World Series contending team for 2025. Cheaply or not cheaply. That has to be the Soto mandate.

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  2. First and foremost we need to trade Marte and McNiel anyway possible.

    Trade Marte for Jordan Montgomery 1 for 1 deal. Us absorbing a little bit more money.

    Trade McNiel and some lower prospects (not top ten) for the versatile Cody Bellinger. Put him in Center and backup first base.

    Trade for Nolan Arenado, take on Salary (low level prospects)

    Pickup free agent Corbin Burnes on an 8 year 240 contract and Tanner Scott as well.

    This way you free up the DH spot and give Soto, Vientos, Arenado and Nimmo a breather every fourth day.

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    1. I was with you through the 'trade Marte for Montgomery and pick up the extra couple mils of salary'.

      My personal prognostication is that a combination of McNeil, Taylor and Siri will completely out-perform anything Bellinger does in 2025. A solid no on that trade proposal.

      I am not anti-Arenado, but I am more pro-Alonso at this point. Let's bring Pete back to play first and keep Vientos at third. Bringing in Arenado pretty much seals out Alonso.

      I am a hard no on a long term contract for pretty much any starting pitcher, especially on on the top side of age 30. My focus is on a great starting offense, good depth with speed on the bench, and a serviceable and deep starting pitching slate. Spend money on offense (Alonso) and fill in the bullpen.

      I do not really care for the carousel of players in the DH slot. If a player needs a breather, give him the whole day. Let's get a steady full time DH - Marte or McNeil. A platoon might be OK. but don't play with the full time starters that way.

      Just me ... and of course I am not the Mets GM :-(

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  3. It's refreshing to hear a pessimist apply that label to himself. The optimists among that will appreciate that. 😁

    As one of the latter group, I see '25 as a pivotal year for the "top prospects" we acquired in trade a year ago, as well as those we have produced ourselves.

    Virtually none of them lived up to expectations in the minors this season, and we will keep a close eye on them, thanks to Tom and the other writers here who follow the system.

    Most notably, Acuna showed up when we needed him late this season, and is continuing to produce in Winter ball.

    Gilbert, Clifford, Williams and others will get a chance to show their stuff in AA/AAA, and may see ML time in '25. Hopefully, we won't need to sign Vlad next year, but if we do need him he's available.

    We're still early in the off-season, and I look forward to seeing what rabbits David pulls out of his magic hat.

    In David I trust! LGM!

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  4. my initial reaction to reading this article was that though I would have enjoyed trades or signings at the winter meetings, that it was such a breath of fresh air to know that the Mets were being led by a wise management team , who could be counted upon to make generally smart moves. pretty different from what we've been suffering with the last 20 years, but then Paul went a basically did a more articulate job of saying the same thing. thanks Paul and Reese, and everyone, for your continuing articles, which I read every day.

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  5. Why do you have Lindor in the group that under performed in career norms? He almost won the MVP award. Hopefully an oversight.

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  6. I may be in the minority, but it looked to me like Jeff McNeil finally made the adjustments he needed in the second half of the season. it looked like he stopped trying to slap and place the ball the other way, which had served him so well against the now-banned shift, and started pulling the ball hard most AB’s and was crushing it. Given that our potential prospect replacements for him either under performed or were injured much of last season, I can’t see them moving McNeil this offseason, and moreover, I think they have some confidence (as do I) that he’ll be more second-half than first-half 24 McNeil. I’m expecting a very solid year from him, and may only be moved at the deadline of after the season if one or more of the kids breaks out at AAA this season.

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    1. Also, if ‘25 McNeil is truly a .280+ hitter with a little pop, (and assuming we bring in a reasonable bat for 1B/3B) our lineup starts to look very, very deep.

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    2. I'll be in the minority with ya, Adam. I agree with you on McNeil.
      If he gets beaten out of the second base job defensively, McNeil can be a very effective full time DH, and utility fielder at several positions.

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  7. The new and very "interesting" twist was David Stearns' comment that Brett Baty had added "positional versatility" and now is considered a candidate to play second base. You had mentioned McNeil, Acuna, and Mauricio there but now Baty is in play? And how about Jett? This could become a very competitive spring if all these guys are still in the organization come February.

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  8. Paul, on Baty, I still go back to the astounding difference between him and Brent Rooker. Rooker was horrendous at age 27, much improved at 28, and .293, 39 HRs, 112 RBIs in 146 games. He swung at first pitches 45% of the time in 2024. Baty in his career has swung at 26% of first pitches, with much worse results. It would seem that they might have Baty try it the Rooker way. If I were Stearns/Mendoza, I would. Could you imagine Baty hitting .293 with 39 HRs and 112 RBIs in 2025? I’d gladly take .260/25/80.

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  9. I think you’re all jumping the gun a little bit.we barely squeezed into the playoffs last year. That wa with Manea, Severino, Quintana and Peterson all having good years. Essentially we have replaced(at the moment) Soto for Alonso. We need a power presence to protect Soto. I’m hopeful Vientos wil progress to even more HR and improve defensively but that’s not a certainty. We have no ace. Senga, Montas and Holmes are all question marks. I’m sorry but I don’t see a World Series team here. I believe in Stearns and Cohen but we are many pieces away from a championship team

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