Good morning.
The recent signings by the Los Angeles Dodgers have caused me to wonder
just how important it is the operate a baseball team below the luxury tax
limits… especially if your team is making a shit load of money or your owner is
richer than the soon to be installed President.
(by the way… still think the best team in history was the 1977 Dodgers)
The current Mets are becoming dominant in power bats. 3B Mark Vientos, SS Francisco Lindor, RF Juan Soto, and emerging C Francisco Alvarez are all flashing current and future home run creds. Should
we wait to see if current Mets chain prospects develop into the next one?
Well, that worked for Vientos, seems to be working for Alvarez, was
stalled due to an injury for Ronny Mauricio, and failed for Brett Baty. This time last year, we thought Jett Williams, Drew Gilbert, Alex Ramirez, and Ryan Clifford would be banging down the CitiField doors this spring.
How’s that working out?
Is it wrong… IF you can afford to do it… to look to the future at players
like 1B Vladimir Guerrero Jr., 3B Alex Bregman, 3B Nolan Arenado, 2B Ozzie Albies (2026 FA… team opt), DH Joc Pederson (2026 FA), and DH Kyle Schwarber (2026 FA)?
And what about the prospects in the chain? Do you stop targeting future
bat growth? Absolutely not. But all the hits in the world at the AAA level
“don’t mean squat” if you can’t do the same in the majors.
I strongly am in favor of continuing to go down the current Stearns/Steve
plan of bring in a major bat a year… Soto this year… Vlad Jr. next year… and so
on. Keep building this team on prime beef and let a prospect or two shock you
along the way.
Starter pitching remains another animal. No team is going to trade their
ace. Hell, forget their SP2 also. And it seems like every team is in during
free agent time when that handful of top shelf starters become available. Both
the sensible and economical thing is to draft your brains off in this category.
You have to develop your own starters to accomplish building a decent
rotation. So far, the Mets have done well with David Peterson. It looks like Christian Scott will develop as well. Future pieces could be any
combination of Brandon Sproat, Jonah Tong, and Nolan McLean. Longshots are Jonathan Pintaro, Douglas Orellana, and Jack Wenniger. Considering they have both Kodai Senga and Sean Manaea under extended contracts, the Mets rotation may not be in
bad shape during the remainder of this decade.
We get excited about prospect pitchers, but let’s remember last year at
this time we were excited about Dom Hamel, Mike Vasil, and (especially me) Blade Tidwell.
Baseball Ga Ga.
This is the time of the year that people do resolutions and predictions. I
stopped doing each year ago. I will give my overall observations on how the
Mets have done during the off season when the signing is done. Right now, if no
one else is signed, it’s going to be hard to say the Mets did bad due to the
Soto signing.
MetsTwitter has been harsh to Stearns-Cohen. It may even have chased away
my friend Steve from X. His site remains down without explanation. I will miss
him there.
Fans are weird. They seem to always forget that it takes two to tango. For
all we know, there are 10 decent offers on the tables of 10 free agents out
there and all this is being held up by these player’s agents. There are no more
leaks from Queens so we all have to wait this out until spring training starts.
If you don’t like it, go watch soccer.
Ben Weinrib of MLB.com wrote a story on 12-30-24 about 18 exciting
prospects set for full-season debuts in 2025. One was a Met:
Jeremy
Rodriguez, SS/2B, Mets
Rodriguez has an unusually high floor
for a Rookie-ball player thanks to his defensive instincts, plate discipline
and bat-to-ball skills. The Mets have played him some at second base so his
defensive home is worth monitoring as well as his power, which has mostly
manifested in the form of doubles to this point.
NYM No. 7 - Scouting grades: Hit: 55 |
Power: 45 | Run: 50 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50
Rodriguez was the D-backs’ biggest
international addition in 2023, signing with the club for $1.25 million out of
the Dominican Republic in January. He didn’t last long in the organization
after a strong walk rate and OBP in the Dominican Summer League caught the
Mets’ eye, and New York acquired him in a one-for-one swap for Major League
outfielder Tommy Pham at the Trade Deadline. Rodriguez went 19-for-45
(.422) with eight extra-base hits, 11 walks and four strikeouts in 13 games for
a Mets’ DSL affiliate after the move, further solidifying his status as a
prospect to watch in his new organization.
Batting from the left side, Rodriguez
was nearly stellar at protecting the plate in his first professional season,
especially considering he didn't turn 17 until July. His 1.06 BB/K ratio ranked
third among the 15 qualified DSL players playing in their age-16 seasons in
'23. With only three of his 18 extra-base hits leaving the yard, his power
plays best to the gaps, but it was always likely he’d need some time to get the
pop to play in games.
The 6-foot infielder boasts
above-average arm strength needed for long throws from shortstop, and while
he’s just an average runner, he has the hands and footwork to keep getting work
at the six. Notably, the Mets got him some looks at second base to keep his
athleticism up the middle. Rodriguez will take his advanced approach stateside
with plenty of development still to come.
Ernest Dove @ernestdove
18 year old Jeremy Rodriguez could become the
"poster child" for player development under Stearns. Kid has already
gotten reps/ABs stateside now & is ahead of the curve. Good enough BB/K
rates so far. I've seen concerns with his glove so future pos like a Jett type
is to be found
Jeremy Rodriguez
has to be the Mets prospect to watch in 2025 as he will start the year in St.
Lucie and may even see a call up to Brooklyn. He was heavily hyped after being
traded from Arizona hitting .282/.355/.400 in 50 FCL Mets games in 2025. I want
to see him in the field to see if he can be a future SS.
It will be interesting to see what position the Mets play him at in St.
Lucie. He would showcase better as trade bait if they played him at short, but
he would have a future as a Met (ETA: 2027) as a second baseman.
One prospect to watch for each team in 2025 - December
29th, 2024
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-prospects-to-watch-in-2025?partnerID=web_article-share
Mets: RHP Brandon Sproat
Plenty of questions remain regarding
Sproat’s ability to develop into a true frontline starter, yet he also has the
best chance of anyone in New York’s system to make a significant midsummer
impact. Just a step away from the big leagues, Sproat, New York’s top prospect,
must first master the Triple-A level. But if he gets off to a nice start, it
wouldn’t be shocking to see him debut early in the season, as fellow prospect Christian Scott did last year. With a
triple-digit fastball, Sproat boasts an even higher ceiling than Scott, as
evidenced by his No. 40 ranking on MLB Pipeline’s Top Prospects list. At the
highest level, he’ll need to be a pitcher not a thrower, which makes Sproat’s
early-season development crucial to his chances. -- Anthony DiComo
I happen to think that Jonah Tong is the top Mets pitching prospect, but Sproat is a close second. One caveat… he did hit the wall when he was promoted to Syracuse. AAA is the introduction to old major league players that can still hit a pitch or two. Like many other pitchers in the past (Hamel, Vasil, etc.), let’s just say that Sproat had a hard time finding something positive in that brutal weather city.
His job in 2025 is simple. Steer the boat correctly and get back to producing
stat lines like he did at the other levels he pitched in. If he does that, you
could see him in Queens sooner than later.
Each team's breakout player for 2025 - December 30th,
2024
https://www.mlb.com/news/2025-mlb-breakout-players-for-every-team?partnerID=web_article-share
Mets: C Francisco Alvarez
Now that Mark Vientos has broken out, the Mets can hope for the same from his younger teammate, Alvarez. Entering his age-23 season, Alvarez has struggled to find consistency at the plate, and he dropped from 25 homers as a rookie to just 11 last season. But Alvarez improved his batting average and on-base percentage in Year 2, as well as his throwing arm behind the plate. He now has 228 games of experience at the game’s highest level and is at an age when players tend to break out. Often lauded for his work ethic, Alvarez still has a chance to be one of the game’s top offensive catchers. -- Anthony DiComo
First of all, no one wants to see this “kid” play better this season than
I do. That being said, he’s going to have to do a lot of things different in
2025 than he did in 2024.
First, stop worrying about the home runs here. There are plenty of other
players on this team that can lead the way in that category. Just find a way to
even out your game and produce productive batting results month after month.
As for defense, I don’t know what to do about his lack of being able to
throw out runners at second. Let’s face it… opponent teams don’t attempt steals
with their slower runners. It’s always the speed guys and Alvarez’ arm just
isn’t strong enough.
Lastly, I think Alvy is an IL man walking. No proof or science or analytical study here. Just my gut.
Lastly…
Prospect1500 - New York Mets Top 50 Prospects (2025)
Prospects1500 Tiers:
Tier 1: Players with high expectations of both making the
majors and playing at an All-Star level for a number of years
Tier 2: Players with an above-average expectation of making
the majors and being a solid contributor
Tier 3: Players with an average expectation of making the
majors and being a solid contributor
Tier 4: Players who have the potential to make the majors;
possible sleeper candidates for sustained MLB success
Tier 5: Players of interest, worth keeping an eye on, who may
make (or have made) the majors but provide minimal impact
Levels listed for each player are the highest levels player
reached in 2024
Tier 1
None
Tier 2
1. Jett Williams, SS, 21, Triple-A
2. Brandon Sproat, RHP, 24, Triple-A
3. Drew Gilbert, OF, 24, Triple-A
4. Luisangel Acuña, SS/OF, 22, MLB
Tier 3
5. Ronny Mauricio, SS/OF, 23, Injured (MLB in 2023)
6. Ryan Clifford, 1B/OF, 21, Double-A
7. Carson Benge, OF, 21, Single-A
8. Jonah Tong, RHP, 21, Double-A
9. Jesus Baez, SS/2B, 19, High-A
10. Blade Tidwell, RHP, 23, Triple-A
Tier 4
11. Jeremy Rodriguez, SS, 18, Rookie (FCL)
12. Nolan McLean, RHP/DH, 23, Double-A
13. Nick Morabito, OF, 21, High-A
14. Colin Houck, SS/3B, 20, Single-A
15. Alex Ramírez, OF, 21, Double-A
16. Boston Baro, 3B/SS, 20, High-A
17. Yovanny Rodriguez, C, 18, Rookie (DSL)
18. Kevin Parada, C, 23, Double-A
19. Marco Vargas, SS, 19, Single-A
20. Jonathan Santucci, LHP/DH, 22, College
Tier 5
21. Felipe De La Cruz, LHP, 23, High-A
22. Dom Hamel, RHP, 25, Triple-A
23. Trey Snyder, SS, 19, Single-A
24. Jacob Reimer, 3B, 20, High-A
25. Jeffry Rosa, OF, 20, Single-A
26. Edward Lantigua, OF, 18, Rookie (DSL)
27. Calvin Ziegler, RHP, 22, High-A
28. Nick Lorusso, 1B, 24, Double-A
29. Daiverson Gutierrez, C, 19, Single-A
30. Christopher Suero, C, 20, High-A
31. Nate Dohm, RHP, 21, College
32. A.J. Ewing, OF/2B, 20, Single-A
33. Joander Suarez, RHP, 24, Triple-A
34. Ronald Hernandez, C/1B, 21, High-A
35. Eduardo Herrera, RHP, 24, Double-A
36. Wellington Aracena, RHP, 20, Single-A
37. Franklin Gomez, LHP, 19, Single-A
38. Bryce Montes de Oca, RHP, 28, Triple-A
39. Trey McLoughlin, RHP, 25, Triple-A
40. JT Schwartz, 1B, 25, Triple-A
41. Eli Serrano III, OF, 21, Single-A
42. Douglas Orellana, RHP, 22, High-A
43. Joel Díaz, RHP, 20, Single-A
44. Jack Wenninger, RHP, 22, High-A
45. Julio Zayas, C, 18, Rookie (FCL)
46. Raimon Gomez, RHP, 23, High-A
47. Brett Banks, RHP, 23, High-A
48. Jose Guevara, RHP, 19, Rookie (DSL)
49. Simon Juan, OF, 19, Rookie (FCL)
50. Jefrey De Los Santos, 2B/OF, 21, High-A
Me?
I agree there are no top tier prospects
I believe both Tong and Benge should be
ranked above Clifford and Gilbert.
Having Orellana and Wenninger this low
is close to criminal.
Starting with the Prospect1500 list, this is the first list in my tray’s of following them that I think is way off. I have way more than one opinion on it, including the Tiers some players are put in. They don’t have dedicated writers any more, just multiple contributors, hence why their lists are so much different from the other lists coming out all winter.
ReplyDeleteTong’s lack of elite heat will not give him star prospect status. He tops off at 94 and these lists are written with 97+ in mind.
I am kind of torn on Vlad, he doesn’t appear to be the athlete it takes to maintain long term success. Look at the Dodgers: do you see fat players? Further, I believe that our minor league hitters should get first crack at openings on the MLB roster and free agents should be either specific players or where the team doesn’t have a better option. The two openings currently in the lineup are DH and 1B. Technically, the easiest two places to find good hitters. The Mets have a few outfielders and many infielders on the way; while Alonso would be great, wouldn’t it be better to have some flexibility in your roster? Right now, while the Mets await the season to start to take inventory of what they have, they have two players that are expected to be plugged into those two spots: Marte at DH and Baty at 1B. Alonso is better than Baty, but Stearns said he wants to give kids a chance. How do you do both?
Lastly, it seems like no one cares about the Luxury Tax, so the question becomes, how do you have a parity that keeps all teams on a level playing field? I see a huge lockout coming in a few years.
I give Prospect1500 courage for posting their kng
DeleteHmm... I thought Tong was hitting some 100 last season
DeleteI'm sorry. After all the years I have followed this team, I want them all.
DeletePete, Vlad, Sasaki
Very astute comment about a 🚶♂️
DeleteAgree with Gus about Tong. He may be 4-5 MPH slower than Sproat. We will see. Does not mean he can’t be very good.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many prospect hitters around baseball each year fail v. Succeed? MLB pitching is TOUGH.
I’ve given Baty what I believe the answer to his woes in previous articles. Hope he’s reading them.
Our prospect hitters, besides Nick the Quick Morabito, had a miserable 2024. What will they do for an encore? Nick was great, but was only in high A. 2025 is the real test.
2025 has to be a better year for the kids. It can't be worse
DeleteSpeaking of hitting 100, two idiots were arrested on the LIE yesterday for zigzagging between cars at over 100 miles an hour. I’m sure those guys have passed me before. Glad they got snagged. We got a guy last night who very fortunately for him, I slowed down in the center lane for a second as he came up and darted between me and the car in the right lane and had to be within 6 inches at the most from the guy in the right lane. He probably sped up, darted back over to the right lane and took off. No one is that good. I think 6 inches is an exaggeration. It look like he was about an inch from that guy‘s bumper. Now that could’ve been nasty. Drive safely my friends and skip the corona.
ReplyDeleteHe promptly, not probably, sped up.
ReplyDeleteMack, i saw Tong hit 100 on one site, but everywhere else tells me otherwise, so I play conservative. The movement on his stuff is sick.
ReplyDeleteI think, off the top of my head, his go to pitch is a sick slider
DeleteIt really looks like Sterns wants to play the kids and that's great but we'll see and then add where needed. Starters are like QB's the good ones are few and far between just ask my beleaguered Jets/Giants. When you make a mistake it really costs you for years. At least we are in much better shape overall than my 2 football teams ugh but what a difference an owner makes. I also hope all the good things I heard about Soto and how he approaches each AB would rub off on Alvy... please! As far as propect rankings it made a huge difference that Mauricio didn't play at all and Jett and Drew hardly played but Acuna looked great in of course a short sample size and very much looking forward to ST with him as he coud be our 25' breakout like Vientos last year fingers crossed.
ReplyDeleteAs I said on the phone with you this morning, the next two moves or losses will be Pete and Sasaki
DeleteMack, I hope I’m wrong but Alonso must be pretty disappointed. I can see him waiting until February to take an underwhelming deal.
DeleteMack,
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correctly, the Dodgers became very expensive for a number of years once they decided to become a power house by signing the best players available. The way they got cheaper was by developing their farm system into one of the best in baseball and promoting from within.
By signing Soto, the Mets sent a message to their fans saying that the Mets were going to be the next powerhouse team.
The fans expected one of the available aces, not Frankie Montas. Tanner Scott, not a bunch of relievers with a 4+ era.
What's next for the Mets?. I like the Arenado trade depending on what's going back or giving Batty one last chance.
Somehow I remember reading that Tong was the hardest thrower in the farm system. The one with the best chance of becoming a true ace.
I read that about Tonh too.
DeleteI like Arenado but I hope they can bring back Pete. A 3 yr offer always means you can negotiate another year out me.
Make it 4 at 35 a year with a 2 year mutual opt out
I've never heard of a "mutual opt-out". Do you mean "mutual option"?
DeleteIn either case, I can't imagine Pete agreeing to any deal that isn't guaranteed for its full length.
IMO he'd be smart to take the 3/$90 deal, which would allow HIM to opt out twice if he plays well enough to earn more.
Bill
DeleteYes. Both the team and player could opt out
The long term market doesn't seem to be there for Pete
But is Pete going to be happy with a 3 year deal from the Mets that just gave 765M to Soto?. In his mind, he has been the face of the Mets and feels he deserves what he is asking for.
ReplyDeleteArenado is owed less money then what it would take to bring Pete back and just imagine the defense on the left side with Arenado and Lindor.
Pete has never produced a 6-7 WAR
DeleteOnce again, Mack has hit a home run this week. There is enough here to write a full response article, but for now, just a few comments.
ReplyDeleteThe debate of best team ever is a great topic. The pitching of that '77 Dodger team may push it higher, but I'd take the side of that team not even being the best team of the decade. I always take the '75 Cincinnati Reds as the best.
The Mets line-up is what's important this year, and those power bats are certainly impressive. Adding Alonso in there for a top four of Lindor, Soto, Nimmo and Alonso with Vientos, McNeil, and Alvarez finishing the top 7 looks pretty good to me. Marte as the DH and throw a defensive minded centerfielder (Taylor/Siri) into the 8 and 9 slot and I am pretty happy with the offense.
Bringing in a free agent bat each year is an interesting strategy, but in doing so it will be easy to get boxed in with too many players on the downside of the career at the same time. That scares me with Vlad next year with Lindor, Soto, and Nimmo already on the books for a while.
My GM approach to starting pitching is the way that Cohen/Stearns have done things for the last couple years (so far). No pitching contracts > $100M or > 4 years, unless they are very young (Yamamoto, Sasaki). I am not touching a deal like Burnes or Fried just signed. I love the Manaea deal, and Montas and Holmes are solid smart additions. Let the lab and Hefner do their magic. There were no aces in 2024, but arguably, it was the starting staff that held the team together to get to the playoffs.
I like what I am reading about Jeremy Rodriguez. Hopefully he can be solid in SL this year and move up to Brooklyn later on.
I saw the piece about Alvarez being the breakout player. Perhaps no one will benefit more from Soto being around than Alvarez. I think there will be a lot of unseen dividends by having the expensive guy in the clubhouse.
I see these prospect lists and scratch my head. How can you have JT Schwartz and Simon Juan in the same tier? Let's get some of these rookie league guys some time in full season A ball first, and let's cull out the AAA guys as now or never. The tiers as they are defined just don't make sense to me as categories.
Enuf for now . . R69
Thanks Bill
DeleteA big year from Alvy would sure firmnup the lineup
I do hate when I comment late in the day but always love Mack’s post
ReplyDeleteNot having any tier 1 prospects is criminal for a team who has been bad most of the time
Even teams like the dodgers can fine tier 1 talent and they haven’t been bad
So what sterns really needs to put his stamp on is the development and choosing A talent
Parada Houck Absolutely awful picks
Moribito
Seriously bad picks when we should be seeking high ceilings
Sterns only had 1 draft so he is on the clock
But I do like that he went top talent internationally
However if we get Roki we lose that kid
Keep your eye on Benge
DeleteBill, I am having a hard time believing that Pete wants to have free-agency hanging over his head every year. I would think that he might be kind of over it after this year's experience and he would want a contract that will give him some stability. The opt-outs are nice for the player, but there is also added pressure and external forces working on you through the year. My guess is that the contract situation was the prime reason of his sub-par year (for him) in 2024.
ReplyDeleteThat's probably the reason why Soto and Judge had such lousy walk years too.
DeleteAs Harry Truman once famously said, "if you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen !"
I want someone who beats pressure, not o e intimidated by it. If your theory is correct, then he and the Mets will be better off if he leaves.
Bill . good point, but players are still human beings. Neither Soto nor Judge had a mid-season trade hanging over them like Pete did. I would love to have Pete back without any contract headaches. I don't know that it actually happened that way, but I think that explanation is as good as 'he is degrading with age' at this point.
ReplyDeleteHe was not intimidated by the pressure of Devon Williams in the playoff game. That is what I'm looking for.
Mack knocks it outa the park!
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