Just as Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer and other professional pitchers are delivering the quality of mound domination that was envisioned when they were first acquired, the substitute hurlers who failed in their time in the big leagues also seemed to be getting back on track themselves.
David Peterson has been something of an enigma ever since he arrived parts of each of the past few seasons on the Mets. He had times when he appeared to be a top quality starting pitcher who could slot into the rotation regularly in the future, but there were other times that he looked more like a batting practice pitcher.
Now he hasn't always been slow-pitch machine for Little Leaguers. In his age 24 and age 26 seasons he kept the ERA under 4.00 which would make him a quality starting pitcher in the offense-crazy era now in which we live. In the 2021 season, however, he was well north of 5.00 and was having some issues with keeping men off base. Even now he walks more than would be expected. Even with better than a strikeout per inning pitched those extra baserunners can lead to ERA inflation woes.
Just recently Peterson threw a stunning game for Syracuse which makes people think he may have rediscovered whatever was working for him in the past. That single game won't earn him an immediate promotion via the Syracuse Uber, but it is encouraging should someone get hurt or have pitching difficulty.
Fellow lefty Joey Lucchesi also has thrown some high quality innings lately. Although he was a veteran in the majors for San Diego, his health problems and surgery recovery have left him out of the Mets plans after acquiring him to be a part of the rotation or pen. His five years in major league baseball have yielded a 4.25 ERA. Unfortunately he was left injured in 2021 and surgery kept him out of the game for all of 2022.
This season he was not great in the majors but considerably better than Peterson.
He made 5 starts and earned a 1-0 record with a 4.43 ERA. He was not striking out a lot of people and like Peterson was walking a few too many, but those kinds of numbers wouldn't hurt too badly if he had to assume a 5th starter role for several turns in the rotation.
For Syracuse he's started 4 and earned a 3-0 record with 1.66 ERA. His control has been better and the strikeouts up a little as well.
For a club trying to work its way back into contention, the fact that two southpaws in the starting rotation in AAA who seem to be preparing to be of quality service to the big club when duty calls. For all of the publicity the minor league hitters have been getting, it's nice to see pitchers earning their keep as well.
I have always been a big fan of Peterson and danced when the Mets drafted him, but, sorry, I think he is incapable of making the conversion to the top level.
ReplyDeleteIt happens.
A lot.
My SP4 right now is Megill, despite his lackluster outing last night. Throw another clunker and maybe he is SP5. SP% right now is Carrasco, due to his being here and "a veteran". But if he keeps stinking (his ERA is 8.68, worse than David's), then I lean towards Joey being my SP5, as I wrote recently. Peterson will have to dazzle me again to re-enter that SP5 conversation.
ReplyDeleteNo Butto though - he just got his Butto kicked in AAA - 1.2 IP, 7 runs. I do of course understand how much better AAA hitters are than MLB hitters, so maybe I am being premature there.
Meanwhile, dearly departed (to San Diego) Lugo is 3-3, 4.10. I think ex-Padre Joey can replicate that.
If you want, though, to see why the Mets are 1 game over .500, Carasco and Peterson having a combined 8.30 ERA in 12 starts seems the main reason to me.
Of course, the number of options remaining for Peterson and Joey are a factor - I am not sure what those #s are. Hey, 2-3 months from now, maybe dazzling Mike Vasil is an option, although my current guess is opening day roster 2024 for him.
ReplyDeleteVasil is the pitching version of AA Matt Rudick, who had 3 hits, including a HR, 3 runs, 3 RBIs, and a HBP last night. I really think he is transitioning from novelty over-achiever to squarely on the Mets' future radar screen. What a season he is having.
I agree with Tom. Megill has been pulling his weight this year despite a few rough outings. Cookie has not shown signs that he can regain the level of pitching that he had in Cleveland. His spot in the rotation is in jeopardy if Lucchesi continues to pitch well, but I just don't see where Cookie goes if he is not a starter. He does not seem to be a middle reliever and certainly doesn't fit at the back end.
ReplyDeleteQuintana has begun tossing
ReplyDeleteHoo boy,if we’re depending on Peterson and Lucchesi we’re in trouble.
ReplyDeleteWhether any of us truly wants to admit this...
ReplyDeleteThe 2023 NY Mets are in a sticky wicket where their pitching is concerned and none of us saw this coming either. Which is not good.
Two very good older vets at top of rotation seem a tad injury prone now. Their staying healthy the remainder of this season is not a given.
I like 3 starter Kodai Senga and believe from here on out of 2023 that he only gets better. Ditto on Tylor Megill in the four. Both are smart pitchers with a good idea of what is needed to be consistently good starters. Three and four spots do not worry me.
In the five spot, I too am waiting for either youngster Mike Vasil and Nathan Lavender to show up here when ready. To me, both seem to have what it takes to become really good MLB starters that a team can count on. I think Vasil may actually have 1 or 2 starter potential down the near road once here and fully developed.
The Big Questions
1. Can RSP Carlos Carrasco get whole again for the fifth hole in the starting rotation until the two kids just mentioned above show up.
2. Can Joey Lucchesi resurface here with the Mets and be the consistent lefty starter neither Steven Matz (0-5, 5.05 ERA) so far in 2023 with the ST. Louis Cardinals) or David Peterson were unable to be here?
3. Bigger one: Obviously the starting rotation here thus far this season has sort of been a letdown of some proportion. To me, the Mets need to perhaps add maybe one or two more new arms to their rotation possibilities, especially if Lucchesi, Peterson, and Carrasco can not be counted on for solid starts rest of the way.
If me, I'd add one younger veteran starter 28-33 years old, and then one stud starter from another team's AAA farm system. How? The Mets have extra players here that hardly ever play. Veteran players like outfielders with still good skills to them, that a team close might just want second half.
Like who Boo-Boo?
Someone like a veteran RSP Sonny Gray who is having a solid season on Minny with a 4-0 record/1.82 ERA. If he'd want to come back to NY that is.
As far as another new AAA starter, perhaps Drew Rom with the Orioles AAA Norfolk Tides. Remember them?
Alert!
Jake deGrom is walking again.
Let’s ultimately hope Quintana rides to the rescue in July.
ReplyDeleteHey Tom
ReplyDeleteWould you tell that guy that Lavender hasn't started a game since he was in school
And...
ReplyDeleteYou can't get teams excited about trading their bait for oldies unless you are going to eat the existing contracts and even then it offers those teams only chances of keeping those players beyond their existing contracts is a bigger one.
They don't happen very often
Teams want team controlled players for players with expiring contracts
Vientos,Mauricio,do you trade them? How much value dos Peterson have? Do Pham,Scobar,Canha,Vogelbach have any trade value? Don’t think the Mes have much to trade?
ReplyDeleteIMO
Deletethe Mets have 4 top prospect none of which should traded
They also have 4 potentials starters, none of which should be given up on
Past that, starters with TJS and second level prospects like Mendick, Peroza etc