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2/15/21

Reese Kaplan -- Yes, There Is Relief Available After Seth Lugo


Injuries are a part of baseball (and all sports, for that matter).  Just when you think you’ve put together the best possible roster to compete for the upcoming season, something happens to remind you that, as Robert Burns once put it in his famous poem, “To A Mouse”, “The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men Gang aft agley” (often anglicized to read, “The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray.”)

I apologize for going all literary on you, but this well regarded phrase in poetry immediately came to mind when the news of Mets relief pitcher Seth Lugo’s surgical needs got revealed over the weekend.  Until that message hit the media, the fans and sportswriters were focused on the next “big thing” that was going to happen to improve the 2021 squad of competitive players. 



Now, all of the sudden, the Mets are facing the loss of one of their primary late inning pitchers and the team is suddenly unable to look at how nice it would be to deal away the salaries of Jeurys Familia and Dellin Betances.  Instead, they must figure out who is going to handle those 6th, 7th and 8th inning duties often mastered by Seth Lugo.




Now many folks were crowing about the prospect of Justin Wilson once again rejoining the ballclub as an extra quality arm.  During 2019 and 2020 Wilson commanded a salary of $5 million per year with a record of 6-3 and a 2.91 ERA.  That indeed looks like high quality pitching which the Mets likely would have hoped to get at a slightly discounted level given his propensity to walk 4+ batters per 9 IP while striking out over 1 per IP.  He posted a value of exactly 1 WAR over his two Met seasons (which included some time off due to injury).  1 WAR is generally believed to be worth $8 million or thereabouts, so the $10 million he was paid for these two seasons was on the overpaid side of the ledger.


Now, it is Wilson who may be in the driver’s seat as the Mets are a bit more desperate for high quality pitching than they were a few days ago.  Gone is the idea of a reduced rate unless this late into the off-season it is all Wilson can command from anyone not named Brodie Van Wagenen. Yes, there are other quality free agents out there as well but they must all be salivating to take advantage of the Mets’ misfortune.  




It’s far from the first time the Mets were recommended to take a look at the comeback closer named Trevor Rosenthal.  He was twice a 45+ save per season reliever for the St. Louis Cardinals while pitching to full season ERAs of 3.20 and 2.10 respectively.  He had injury issues which certainly offset his career and earning power, but this past 60-game season he delivered a 1.90 ERA with 11 saves over 23 games while earning a modest $1.1 million which included a salary and a buyout of his contract.  He’s still untethered at this late juncture and likely will command less than the $5 million that Wilson will request for his services.


Pitcher Shane Greene is coming off two fine seasons in a row which included his first ever All Star appearance.  He earned over $6 million for the Braves last season and likely is looking for the same or better.  It could explain why he is still unsigned.


One interesting name from the past is Mark Melancon.  At one time he was a premier reliever during the period of 2014, 2015 and 2016 when he posted save totals that once exceeded 50 per season.  He was paid like that, too, commanding a $14 million paycheck.  After 2016 it was not nearly as good for Melancon, though he did post 11 saves during this past season while still earning that formidable paycheck.  He’s not likely to get nearly that much anymore but he’ll want to close and right now the Mets have Edwin Diaz doing that job for much less money and greater ability.  


One Mets reunion not yet mentioned was longtime reliever Tyler Clippard who helped the club achieve the World Series in 2015.  He’s still pitching at a high level, not looking to be a closer and earned a rather modest $2.75 million last year from the Twins.  For that he delivered a 2-1 record, a 2.77 ERA, a WHIP at a stunning 0.885 and maintained a 6.50 strikeout to walk ratio.  


In the same age and salary range is lefty Tony Watson who has a career 40-25 record with a 2.80 ERA and earned just $3 million from the San Francisco Giants.  During 2020 he was 1-0 over 21 games with a 0.889 WHIP and a 5 to 1 strikeout to walk ratio.  That’s less than you would pay Justin Wilson for better performance.  


The end result of this baseball mental meandering is that all is not lost with the surgery of Seth Lugo.  The question is whether or not Zack Scott is up to the task. 


17 comments:

  1. There are still some strong choices left. Scott needs to make a Great Scott decision on the right one.

    Of course, the Wilpons would sign no one and just hope to do OK until Lugo returned. That was clearly a strategy - for disaster.

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  2. Melancon and Keone Kela (another reliever I liked) have now come off the board. Looks like Wilson is in serious talks with the Yanks.

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  3. Waiting till the last minute then doing nothing was a Wilponie idea that must die but it's time to act and on top of all this were's the $$$ that was going to Bauer and why is the FO dragging it's feet on what is now a must fill position? By the way Reese great post and using mice and men often go astry was brilliant and you should ask Mack for a raise. Also does anyone know what happened to Metsblog and Matt Cerrone?

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  4. Lugo should be throwing by OD, and hopefully can be activated by early May, but adding any of those on Reese's list couldn't hurt.

    As Mack pointed out, we're stocked with AAA pitchers, and hopefully we'll find some quality there while Lugo is joining Thor in rehab.

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  5. Wow, I'm shocked that Clippard is still around, not only pitching but still effectively. I honestly thought he was done when he left the Mets

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  6. Joey Lucchesi threw 5.2 IP last season, gave up 13 hits for an ERA of 7.94 and right now he's our #5 starter.

    People keep praising Sandy for his "depth" signings and it's silly.

    1) Real depth is a strong minor league system. Bringing up an Ian Anderson, for example. Good, young talent.

    2) There is not enough pitching talent in baseball to sign quality "depth pieces." You can get bodies, you can take flyers on guys, but any veteran in AAA is very likely not a guy you want to see on the mound too often. Yes, sometimes there are happy surprises. But if the top guys get hurt, there's no amount of "depth" that's going to cover that up.

    3) The primary reason there's so little ML-ready talent at the Mets AA and AAA level is that Sandy Alderson had seven-plus years to run the Mets farm system and did a lousy-to-mediocre job. That he's now lauded for buying "depth" pieces on the Metsblogosphere is absurd -- he created the vacuum in the first place. Now he's just shopping at Walmart.

    4) There are always guys you can grab and stash at AAA. It's not a hard thing to do. The hard thing is creating a farm system where it's not as necessary. It's such a shame this guy is running the show all over again.

    Jimmy

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  7. Jimmy, While Sandy did have two or three dud years in the draft, we have to remember that BVW traded away Dunn, Woods-Richardson, and Kay. I don't know how they will fare for their careers - Kay and Dunn have made the show already and SWR is probably the best of the three of them. He also traded off Kevin Smith and Blake Taylor, so to blame Alderson for it all is a little unfair.

    Another point to remember is that last year's draft was only five rounds. While they could conceivably have signed more depth, sometimes the farm system depth is found in those 5th through 10th round picks.

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  8. I am not necessarily of the opinion that the Mets should spend any more on the bullpen (for pitchers anywway). They really have a pretty solid core and I tend to agree with a tweet I read earlier that any another pitcher will throw only 50 innings max (and that seems like a big stretch) and will be worth at most a half win above replacement.

    They have a ton of arms to work with and the pen is already topped by Diaz, May, Familia, and Loup. Castro is a serious candidate and if Betances is healthy, his $6M is going to talk. That is a top 6. To fill, they have Kilome and Barnes, who I understand have no minor league options left, as well as Gsellman, McWilliams, Reid-Foley, Drew Smith, Tommy Hunter and a few young guys to give a good look to for some experience in non-key roles. That group might include Tarpley, Zamora, Gilliam, Megill, and Dibrell with possibly Y. Diaz. Also Szapucki could be considered for a long man.

    My other argument is that the starting staff is much stronger than last year and they shouldn't need quite as deep a bullpen without having to bail out Wacha and co.

    Lastly, I hate to see the three out minimum actually legislated into the game, but I also hate to see a manager rip through 5 pitchers to get through an inning. Let's start training the pen to pitch at least one full inning and possibly more. With eight guys out there, there should be no reason some of them cannot go 2 or 3 innings every couple days.

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  9. Thanks, Gary. My well wrinkled brain was overfed on literature and I often finished three books per week when I commuted by train into NYC before I wised up and moved to the desert. Now I drive or ride my motorcycles everywhere, so reading is now usually just a pre-bedtime activity.

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  10. Just a gut feeling with no firm evidence, but IMO Drew Smith is primed for a breakout season. I hope I'm right. 🤞

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  11. I agree with you Bill. I have been building up both Smith and Zamora in my comments for a while. If they are used in the right situations and given a chance to succeed and not set up to fail, they will both be OK, and with solid growth for future years.

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  12. Remember69:, yes, BVW converted some prospects into Major Leaguers through trades. And I know that horrifies some people.

    But when looking at 7+ years of Sandy, do you think he did a good job with the minor league system? I'm not arguing that he was totally incompetent. Good players were drafted, passed through, and have done well. Just not very many, relative to our competitors.

    In addition, Sandy traded away a Cy Young winner and Carlos Beltran to pick up prospects -- because for quite a few years, he admittedly wasn't trying to compete at the ML level. He was building a farm system. After the disastrous 2017 season, I think it was, he again dumped a bunch of players for, as I recall, 11 or 12 RH relievers. Rhame and such.

    Only in 2015 was he bothered to flip some prospects for ML help -- thank goodness for that.

    So, yeah, BVW traded away some guys I liked. Kelenic, obviously. And Simeon-Woods always seemed interesting to me. But today I'm glad we have Stroman, Diaz, Davis. I even liked Cano. But I don't want to go over those old trades again. BVW was hired by the Wilpons with a win-now mandate; they wouldn't talk to GMs with a rebuild plan. BVW had little money and little help on the upper levels of the farm. He had to acquire talent somehow, and trading prospects was the only way.

    After 7+ years under Sandy, the upper reaches of the farm were routinely called "barren" and nowhere close to a top 10 organization. Almost always in the bottom half rankings. He failed, convincingly. And if he hadn't failed, maybe those trades would not have been necessary.

    So, again, my point: I'm not going to overly praise him for routine "depth" signings of fringe veterans. He should be doing better than that.

    Jimmy

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  13. When it comes to relievers, a serious WS contender needs proven guys in the pen. Too much hit or miss with that in recent years.

    Jimmy, he picked Cecchini - always a head scratching failed pick. All the guys Mack outlines in the first round sound so much better.

    He did click on Nimmo - for a while that seemed like a bust pick too.

    Cortes should play as many positions as possible, including CF. His value to this team may be as Super Joe.

    Draft power arms and power bats primarily and you will do fine in the long run with your drafts. Just ask Pete, Michael, and Dom. And Matt.

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  14. Jimmy, I can't disagree with you on the whole. The drafts for years 2013 through 2017 were pretty thin on real prospects. Michael Conforto was the only pick in the 2014 draft that hit, or even came anywhere close to the bigs.

    I have been thinking about, and maybe sometime will do a full piece on Alderson's draft history. That effort seems to get pushed to the bottom of the stack.

    The other thing that I have not researched a lot, but seems a bit thin is the international signings. There are a few in the lower levels (Alvarez being the most intersesting) and a few that graduated (Gimenez), but I don't have a good feel for the effectiveness of that path. I suspect they are not rated well against other clubs. I was certainly disappointed to see they signed 0 players in the top 50 list of available international prospects in 2020. That has to improve.

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