Last Thursday, we
wrote about the first seven starters in this analysis.
We now move into
the second group (of three) of BLUE
or Red starters in the chain. Here are
seven more:
Zach Thornton –
AA LHP
6-3 170
23/years
old. Drafted in the 5th round
of the 2023 draft, by the NYM, out of Grand Canyon University
Minors
–
2024
A/A+: 20-G, 12.ST, 5-4, 4.10,
1.40, 68-IP, 18-BB, 54-K
Last two outings:
4/30 (AA) - 4.1-IP,
5-H, 2-ER, 54/78
4/18 (A+) - 6-IP,
1=H, 0-R, 0-BB, 8-K, 72/50
Five
pitch mix known for deception
FB
– 90, T-94, 2200-2400RPM, 16” vertical break
Slider
– low 80s 2-plane break 2400-2500
3.9” vertical break
Curve
– mid 70s 11-5 shape
Changeup
- low 80s 1700 RPM
10.8” vertical 14.5” horizontal
Cutter
– mid/high 80s 2400 6.4” V
3.3” H
Probably
the most pleasant surprise this season for all chain starters. Was recently
promoted to AA after tossing 0.44/0.67 in four starts for Brooklyn. Because of
congestion issues, this is probably as high as he goes this season.
ETA
– ASB 2026
Jack Wenninger –
AA RHP
6-4 210
23 years old –
drafted by NYM in the 6th round of the 2023 draft, out of the
University of Illinois-Urbana (big one)
Three seasons – 30-G,
23-ST, 7-6, 4.01, 1.21, 132.1-IP, 166-K
2024 – A/A+: 25-G,
19-ST, 4-6, 4.30, 1.27, 115-IP, 140-K
A+: 10-G, 9-ST, 1-2, 3.12,
1.31, 43.1-IP, 51-K
2025 so far - AA: 5-ST, 4-1, 2.92, 24.2-IP, 7-BB, 34-K
Last five outings
–
4-29 -
4.2-IP, 7-H, 6-ER, 2-BB, 2-K,
86/51
4-23
- 5-IP, 4-H, 0-R, 1-BB, 10-K,
89/60
4-17
- 5-IP, 3-H. 1-R, 1-BB, 6-K
4-11
- 5-IP, 2-H, 1-ER, 1-BB, 9-K
4-4
- 5-IP, 2-H, 0-R, 2-BB, 7-K, 76/50
FB – 91-94,
T-96 18” vertical 13.5” horizontal break high ¾ arm slot
Changeup/splitter
- best pitch – low/mid 80s 3.9” V
7.21” H
Slider – 94-95 above average ride
Curve –
high-70s
Relies heavily on
fastball/changeup combo 50 Grade control
Me? I’m writing
off 4/29 as a one-off clunker. I think the Mets have found something special
here and I can’t wait to see how the season turns out for him.
Another
Binghamton pitcher blocked for a promotion. Not sure where he will finish this
season.
ERA - ASB 2026
Jonathan Pintaro –
AA
27/years old. RHP 6-2
235
2022 undrafted,
out of Shorter University (GA)
Mets signed
Pintaro after a 2023 season with the Glacier Range Riders, of the Frontier
League (Indy)
2024 – A+/AA/AAA –
17-G, 15-ST, 3-6, 2.68, 1.16, 74-IP, 75-K
2025 so far
- B-Mets: 4-ST, 0-1, 2.93, 1.04, 15.1-IP, 7-BB, 22-K
Last four outings –
5-2 - 4.2-IP, 3-H, 2-R, 9-BB, 6-K, 78/51
4-26
- 5.2-IP, 2-H, 0-R, 0-BB, 9-K
4-20
- 4-IP, 4-H, 1-ER, 0-BB, 5-K, FB:
T-97
4-9
- 2.2-IP, 2-R. 4-BB
Repertoire has
evolved significantly
4-seam -
93-95, T-97 high spin rate
Cutter -
89=92 key offering and most reliable pitch 55 Grade
Sinker -
added recently mid-90s compliment 4-seamer
Sweeper -
82-85 shows promise
Chamgeup -
mid-80s 50 grade
Slider -
mid-80s heavy downward action -16” Vert. break
Strength lies in
unpredictability FB/Cutter mainstay
Look… Pintaro is
blocked every way come Sunday. He might as well unpack and enjoy the Binghamton
weather (sic).
ETA - my
guess, due to so many chain upper level starters, 2026 pen
Joander Suarez –
AA
25/years old RHP 6-3 235 2017
IFA
Seven
seasons - 87-G, 70-ST, 20-22, 4.20, 1.23, 357.2-IP, 392-K
2025 - AA - 3-ST, 0.00, 0.87,
17.1-IP, 17-K
5/1 – promoted to AAA-Syracuse
Last four outings
–
5-1
(AAA) -
3-IP, 8-H, 8-ER, 2-BB, 3-K (24.00), 73/45
4-24
- 5.1-IP, 2-H, 0-ER, 0-BB, 5-K,
47/67
Now 11.2 scoreless innings to begin
the season
4-18
- 6-IP, 0-H, 0-ER, 0-BB, 6-K
4-12
- 6-IP, 2-H, 0-BB, 0-R, 6-K
4-seam FB - 93-95,
T-96 above ave. vertical break Primary pitch
Changeup -
85-89 best pitch
limited sink
Curve -
hi-70s/low 80s 12-6 drop best secondary pitch
Fastball/changeup
combination is key to his game
FB: 50-55 Change:
55 Curve: 50
Control: 45-50
Boy. Welcome to
AAA. Was surprised to see he got this promotion before others. It will be
interesting to see how this last outing screws with his head.
ETA - another guy I think is destined for the 2026
pen
Noah Hall –
A+
24/years old RHP 6-0 195
Mets drafted Hall
in the 7th round of the 2023 draft, out of the University of South
Carolina.
2024 -
A+/A: 5-ST, 0-2, 9.69, 2.31, 13-IP,
10-BB, 12-K
2025 so far
-
Last two outings –
4-29 - 5-IP, 5-H, 3-ER, 1-BB, 7-K, 77/52
4/23 -
4-IP, 7-H, 1-R, 2-BB, 4-K
Fastball -
91-95, T-96 ¾ slot 50 grade
exceptional movement
Changeup -
low/mid 80s 70 grade
potential high spin 55% whiffs
Slider -
mid-80s high spin rate 45-50 grade
Repertoire
centers on FB/change combo
History of back
issues
Another of those
pleasant surprises we are seeing from the 2023/2024 drafts. I expect Hall to
settle in at the Coney and finish the season there. So much blockage will slow
down his ETA.
ETA - 2027
Joel Diaz –
A+
21/years old - RHP 6-2
190 2020 IFA
4-seasons - 55-G, 44-ST, 5-10, 3.50, 1.22, 195.2-IP, 203-K
2024 Rk/A - 20-ST, 17-ST, 4.48, 74.1-IP, 71-K
2025 so far - 5-G, 3-ST, 1-0, 0.44, 0.67,
20.2-IP, 2-BB, 25-K
Last five outings
–
4/30
- 5-IP, 3-H, 1-ER, 0-BB,
6-K (0.44-ERA)
4/23
- 4-IP, 2-H, 0-R, 0-BB, 5-K, 58/38,
4/17
- 4-IP, 2-H, 0-R, 1-BB, 4-K,
65/43
4/11
- 4-IP, 1-H, 0-R, 2-BB, 5-K
4/5
- 3.2-IP, 1-H, 0-R, 1-BB, 4-K
Fastball - 92-94,
T97 riding life low vertical approach 60 grade by BA
Changeup -
mid-high 80s late fade most effective secondary pitch
Curve -
75-77 12-6 dubbed “el yo-yo” favorite pitch 50m grade
Diaz is human! He
gave up a run!
There is no slot
currently in Binghamton for him or any other Brooklyn starter. My guess is Hagenman
isn’t long for the Syracuse roster, thus opening up a slot there for McLean.
Just a guess, but this could create a move for Diaz soon.
ETA - 2026
R.J. Gordon –
A+
23/year old RHP 6-0
195
Drafted by NYM in
the 13th round of the 2024 draft, out of the Univ. of Oregon
2025 is his first
major league season.
So far this season – Brooklyn: 4-G, 3-ST, 2-0, 2.70, 1.08, 16.2-IP, 6-BB, 20-K
Last three outings –
5/2 - 4.1-IP, 2-H, 0-R, 3-BB, 4-K, 71/41
4/25 - 5-IP, 3-H, 1-R, 1-BB, 9-K
4/20 - 4-IP, 3-H, 2-R, 3-BB, 4-K, 74/47
Limited info on
his pitches
Fastball – primary
pitch velo unavailable probably low-mid 90s
Reliance on
breaking pitches… slider, curve
Changeup – used in
college to keep batters off balance
Boy, talented
pitches just keep coming on this team. I don’t think anyone heard of this guy
until his first outing this season. Far too early to project. Need to see how
he handles each level.
Mets
Internal Options vs. LHH — Some Obvious, Some Fun and Under the Radar:
If they
want to get really fun: Ryan Ammons — acquired
from the Red Sox via Rule 5 and a former Clemson Tiger — is currently in
Brooklyn and has the tools to become a true MLB lefty specialist. His fastball
sits around 92 mph but features unique cutting action and elite vertical break
for his low arm slot. Despite being just six feet tall, he generates impressive
extension, and he pitches with closer-level intensity, even if the raw stuff
isn’t quite there yet. His slider has nearly a 40% whiff rate. While walks were
an issue in college, he’s looked sharp early this year — 7 strikeouts, just 2
walks, and no runs allowed in his first 5 innings.
Picking
April MLB All-Star
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6325707/2025/05/01/mlb-april-all-star-teams/
First
base — Pete Alonso, Mets
After
signing a short-term contract with the Mets last winter that includes two
opt-outs, Alonso looks primed to re-enter free agency and capitalize in the
fall. The 30-year-old appears to be in great shape and is off to a scorching
start, slashing .343/.474/.657 (219 OPS+) with seven homers and 28 RBIs. He’s
benefitting from having Francisco Lindor and Juan Soto hitting in front of him;
they provide significant traffic when he comes to the plate.
Early MLB
takeaways: Best and worst teams
New York
Mets: They sport the best record in MLB -- and have gotten to the top of the
standings despite slow starts from Mark Vientos and
Brandon Nimmo, with Juan
Soto still seeking his power stroke. New York's pitching has been
nothing short of brilliant, with a rotation leading MLB in ERA by nearly
three-quarters of a run at 2.27. And that's without Sean
Manaea and Frankie Montas, two free agent
signings who have spent the first month on the injured list. It doesn't hurt
that Pete Alonso was the best hitter in the
league in April, and Francisco Lindor is doing
Francisco Lindor things, too. There might not be a more electric place to watch
a ballgame these days than Citi Field, where the Mets are 13-1 this season.
Francisco Alvarez returned with a new goal that helps him fit in with Mets
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6322306/2025/04/30/mets-francisco-alvarez-base-running/
“It’s not
about stealing bases,” Alvarez said. “I just want to be a better base runner. I
want to go first to third, second to home plate and score from first base on
doubles.”
The Mets
are baseball’s best at scoring from first base on a double. In the Mets’ 8-3
win over the Arizona Diamondbacks on Tuesday, Luisangel
Acuña scored from first on Tyrone Taylor’s
double for the first run. The Mets have scored from first base on a double 16
times. The next-best team, the Athletics, has done it 10 times.
Baseball
Reference’s metric, called extra-bases taken percentage, counts the number of
times a runner advanced more than one base on a single or more than two bases
on a double, when possible. Entering play Tuesday, the Mets ranked third (53
percent) in the majors, behind only the San Francisco Giants (58 percent) and
Detroit Tigers (56 percent), the only other teams above 50 percent. Club
officials point to personnel knowing Citi Field well enough to know when to
take such chances on the bases on balls hit into the alleys and corners of the
outfield. Richardson said the Mets have stressed taking better secondary leads
this season.
Jim Koenigsberger @Jimfrombaseball
When Don Zimmer passed, it was revealed that Pedro Martinez had tried to apologize the next day,
and Zimmer said:
"Don’t, it was all my fault."
"We
expect Satchel Paige to get into shape and be
ready to pitch when called upon."
Braves
President William C. Bartholomay
62 year
old Satchel Paige was just 158 days shy of the five years’ playing time
required to qualify for a MLB pension. Satchel reached out to 29 teams to give
him just one more chance, and 29 teams turned him down.
In order to make Satchel Paige eligible to
receive his pension, Braves President
Bill Bartholomay signed Paige to a contract running through the 1969 season as
the Braves pitching coach. Satchel would actually suit up and pitch a couple of innings during
two exhibition games early in the spring
of 1969, but he’d spend the rest of the season “coaching” from his living room in Kansas City.
After
reaching his 158 required days, Paige left the Braves organization and less
than three years later, began drawing that Major League pension.
Satchel
Paige received $250 a month for his pension.
"Willie Mays scooped the ball up at the base of the
406-foot sign, whirled and fired. It came in on one bounce, directly in front
of the plate, and into the glove of catcher Tom Haller, who put it on the astonished
Willie Stargell. It was described by old-timers as the greatest throw ever made
in ancient Forbes Field.”
Bob
Stevens, San Francisco Chronicle
August
25, 1965
"I
couldn’t believe Mays could throw that far. I figured there had to be a relay.
Then I found out there wasn’t. He’s too good for world."
Willie Stargell
"People
talk about that catch in the 1954 World Series and, I’ve said this many times,
that I’ve made better catches than that many times in the regular season."
Willie
Mays
That 1965 season,
Willie Mays hit .317, with 52 HRs in a pitcher-dominated era, so that his OPS+ was 185, for a god-like
11.2 WAR.

6 comments:
We have a partial Willie Mays in Juan Soto. Only one Willie. Say HEY.
Nice minors pitching depth indeed.
If Vientos gets more aggressive on swinging at strikes early in counts, the Mets offense will be devastating.
Joander Suarez has pitched well in AA. AAA has been Mt Everest for him: 12 career AAA innings, 24 hits allowed (7 HRs) and 20 runs. Ouch. He is now 25, and his AAA struggles are a mystery.
Maybe he should change his name to Felipe
Willie's home park in 1965 was Candlestick Park. Imagine what he could have done had he actually played in a hitter's park!
I am still wondering when will we develop a young bullpen…. When will we develop a closer
Soon, the 26 rotation is already set on paper. With Scott and a ton of other near ready arms coming. Quite a few will move to the pen.
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