17. 3B Wilmer Flores
Flores was signed
as an international free agent in October 2007.
In late January
2007, Baseball America ranked Flores as the 17th overall Mets prospect, adding:
"should grow into his body and become a
force with the bat ... ..internal comparisons to Miguel Cabrera for his present
pull power and ability to use the whole field."
Flores played
most of the 2008 season for K-Port, played one game for Savannah, and finished
the year with Brooklyn. His combined stats were: .307/.347/.468/.815, 8 HRs, 42
RBIs, in 68 games. Flores won the Sterling Award as the top Met player for the
2008 Kingsport team.
In February 2008,
Baseball Prospectus named Florez a 3-star prospect, and ranked him as th 4th
overall Mets prospect.
Also in February
2008, Rotoworld ranked Flores as the #15 Mets prospect.
In March 2008,
Baseball America wrote: Ten prospects to watch out for in 2008: Wilmer Flores, SS - Since Omar Minaya took
over as general manager, the Mets have been extremely active on the Latin
American scouting front. Flores is the latest high-profile prospect to join the
system and the Mets are very excited about what he can do, especially after a
strong showing at instructs. Flores is lean and tall and his best tool is
undoubtedly his bat, drawing comparisons to a Miguel Cabrera when he first
began his pro career. He'll stay at shortstop for now, but there's a chance
he'll grow out of the position and end up at third. It's up in the air where
he'll begin the year and the Mets will use Spring Training to determine if he's
ready to go to Savannah on Opening Day or if having him stick around in
extended spring training makes more sense
Baseball America
printed their “Hot 10” prospects on 6/27:
No. 10 WILMER FLORES, SS - METS - Team: Rookie-level Kingsport
(Appalachian) Age: 16 - Why
He's Here: .400/.417/.578, 3 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR, 7 RBIs, 0 BB, 7 SO - The
Scoop: Flores is a 16 year old playing in a league where the average age is
more than 20, and he has been arguably the best player in the league for the
first week and a half. After belting a home run in his professional debut,
Flores has continued his steady production. Enduring the loss of manager Nick
Leyva, who also served as his Flores' translator, could have been a hitch in
the road for Flores, who had grown close to Leyva, but the teenager's makeup
impressed observers in Kingsport as he kept up his steady production under new
leadership. The only knock on Flores is his defense, which at times can be
shaky. He made three errors in a game on Tuesday night, but played the next two
games error-free. Flores' hitting is his
best present tool and he showed it on Thursday night, going 4-for-5 with a
triple and three RBIs.
In late July
2008, ProjectProspect updated their “top 25 non-top 100 prospects” and guess
who made the list: #10
Wilmer Flores SS What a way to start a career: .360 BA, .640
SLG, 5 HR in 75 AB
Also in late July
2008, ProjectProspect.com updated their top 10 Mets prospect list and Flores was ranked 6th
In August 2008,
NYBaseballDigest wrote: Wilmer Flores
was the top International Free Agent signed by Omar Minaya in the 2007 season.
He was signed for roughly $800,000 in comparison to some other “top level”
talent that got bonuses in excess of a million dollars, or like Michel Inoa who
received over $4 million. Flores is quickly emerging as a premium talent, even
being mentioned by Minaya in an article about the importance of Pedro Martinez
and how his signing led to guys like Flores and Fernando Martinez signing. Flores just turned 17 years of age at the
beginning of August. He was expected to be brought to the US for this season,
but it was widely expected he’d play in the Gulf Coast League where he’d still
be young, as the average age of a player in the GCL is roughly 18-19. But
instead, the Mets decided to push Flores and see what he could do in Kingsport
against competition with an average age of 21-22.
Flores has
responded. He has played in 53 games thus far, and is sporting a .332 batting
average to go with 8 home runs and 40 RBI. His on-base percentage is at .374,
while his OPS(on base+slugging) is hovering near .900 at .897. He also has 12
doubles, and 3 triples to go with his 8 home runs to make 23 extra base hits in
53 games. He will need to work on his plate discipline, as he only has 11
walks, with 25 strike outs.
Flores gets a lot
of comparisons to Miguel Cabrera by scouts. Cabrera also was signed as a 16
year old out of the International Free Agent market for what was at the time
the biggest bonus given to an international free agent at roughly $1.6 million.
Cabrera came state side for his 16 year old/17 year old season, and played in
the aforementioned Gulf Coast League with the average age of 18-19.
Comparatively speaking he played against younger, and more raw talent than
Flores has experienced in the Appalachian League.
Cabrera played in
57 games, hitting .260 with a .344 on base percentage, and had an OPS of .696.
He hit 2 home runs, and drove in 22 runs with 10 doubles, and 2 triples. He
struck out 46 times, while walking 23. It’s early to deem Flores the next
superstar, or the next Miguel Cabrera, but statistically speaking based on
age/level, he’s more than comparable. They both played the shorstop position at
the 16/17 age. Flores is expected to outgrow short, and possibly be a third
baseman, or a first baseman, or even a left fielder long term. Ironically those
are the three positions Cabrera has played.
To compare, Flores
has hit for a higher average, hit more home runs, drove in more runs, reach
base at a higher clip, and OPS significantly higher. He has more doubles, more
triples, struck out almost half as many times as Cabrera, but also has walked
less. Flores ranked 10th on my Mets Top 10 prospect list back in July, I
imagine end of the season list he will be much higher. Flores is very much a
prospect to keep an eye on for the long term.
Flores played
most of the 2008 season for K-Port, played one game for Savannah, and finished
the year with Brooklyn. His combined stats were: .307/.347/.468/.815, 8 HRs, 42
RBIs, in 68 games.
Flores won the
Sterling Award as the top Met player for the 2008 Kingsport team.
In October 2008,
From Kevin Czerwinski/MiLB.com:
It's not as if
what Wilmer Flores was doing this season was without precedent. After all,
Elvis Andrus played in the Gulf Coast and Appalachian Leagues as a 16-year-old
in 2005, while Carlos Triunfel played in the Midwest and California Leagues
last year just after turning 17. Yet it still remains remarkable that someone
so young could do so much so far from home at such a young age. Flores split
the 2008 season between the Appalachian and New York-Penn Leagues. He didn't
turn 17 until August, yet for much of his time in Kingsport, his batting
average hovered around .340. Only a late-season slump -- he had three hits in
his final 25 at-bats -- brought his average down to a still-impressive .310.
The Venezuelan native also spent a day with Savannah of the Class A South
Atlantic League (he went 2-for-5) and finished up the season by spending two
weeks with Brooklyn, where he hit .267 in 30 at-bats. Overall, Flores -- who
missed a week in July with a strained oblique muscle -- hit .307 with eight
homers, 42 RBIs and a .347 on-base percentage this season. Now, he's down in Port St. Lucie
participating in the Mets' Florida Instructional League program, doing even
more to prepare for what New York is hoping will be a big Sally League season
in 2009. "He's a very impressive young player," said Adam Wogan, New
York's director of Minor League operations. "He's a very talented player
and he's making great strides. He certainly is an impressive individual."
Flores, though young, has never played as much ball as he did this season.
While some may be fearful that he's worn down by this point in the year, Wogan
and the Mets aren't concerned. They won't work the kid until he drops in
Florida but they also aren't planning to let him skate through camp. Wogan said
that New York's Instructional League program is a bit different than it was a
few years back. He said there is much more focus on the mental side of the game
and more attention is paid to intra-squad games. With that in mind, the Mets
have targeted a program for Flores and all their prospects. "His
individual play will be based on specific areas rather than game
activity," Wogan said. "There might be guys who signed later and
aren't quite as far along that it might be more important for them to get into
games than it is in Wilmer's case. But we're certainly not worried or concerned
that it's too much for him."
Toby Hyde
on: #2 - SS Wilmer Flores - Why Ranked Here: Flores is ranked here
because he can hit, and really hit. His bat, says scouts, could well be an
All-Star level piece of lumber. In an Appalachian Leauge season which he began
at the tender age of 16, Flores had an extra base hit once every 6.9 at bats.
Flores rolled through the Appalachian League while playing against players two,
three, four even five years his senior.
Flores, who committed 21 errors in 68 games in 2008, is not a good
defender at shortstop, nor is he likely to stay at the position as he grows and
fills out. Observers who saw him play regularly in Kingsport used words like
“awkward” when describing his work at shortstop. At 6’3”, and still growing,
Flores is unusually tall for a shortstop. There were only three SS in the top
twenty VORP for their position, Hanley Ramirez, Derek Jeter and Ben Zobrist,
listed at 6’3” in 2008. Generally speaking advanced fielding metrics consider
the first two below average, if not well below average and Zobrist a strong
defender. No MLB starting SS is listed as tall as 6’4”, a height Flores might
well reach if he continues to grow. Should Flores reach the Majors at 6’4”, he
would be the tallest SS in baseball. It’s not impossible for Flores to stay at
short, but succeeding there would be unusual for a player his height. At age 17
in 2009, the Mets will certainly give Flores the opportunity to improve at
short even if his MLB position lies in at an infield or outfield corner, where
his bat might be good enough to make him a star. 2008: Flores finished fourth
in the Appalachian League in total bases. All three players above him had at
least three years on him. After crushing to a .331/.363/.554 mark through the
season’s first two months, Flores slowed down in August, hitting a more
pedestrian .278/.336/.392 in 24 games with Kingsport. The Mets promoted him to
Savannah for one day on August 27th, before moving him to Brooklyn, where he
had just one extra base hit in his eight games in the NYP. Projected 2009 Start: Savannah
February 2009:
MYOB on: - Wilmer Flores SS - He will probably get too thick to play shortstop
but he’s got the stick to fit at third.
He is often compared to Miguel Cabrera, though he should be better
defensively. For Kingsport he was the
youngest player in the league and still hit .310 with eight homeruns and a .490
slugging. His bat speed is special. Flores signed for $750,000 out of Venezuela.
March 2009:
My World Of Baseball listed the top
Venezuelan born prospects and has Flores as number two: 2. Wilmer Flores SS (Mets) - As Wilmer
develops he may end up looking more like Miguel Cabrera, which would make a
stay at shortstop unlikely. As a below average runner who lacks first step
quickness his best position may be third base or an outfield corner. Unlike
Alcides, there is no question that Wilmer will have a powerful bat, but unlike
Alcides his defensive tools are not suited for shortstop. The Mets will keep
him there until he shows he becomes a liability at the position. As his bat
develops don’t be surprised to see 30 homerun power.
In March 2009,
Rotoworld ranked the Mets Top 10 Prospect:
2. Wilmer Flores
- SS - DOB: 08/06/91 - ETA: 2013
.310/.352/.490, 8 HR, 41 RBI, 28/12 K/BB,
2 SB in 245 AB (R Kingsport)
.267/.290/.300, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 7/1 K/BB, 0
SB in 30 AB (SS-A Brooklyn)
.400/.400/.400, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 2/0 K/BB, 0
SB in 5 AB (A- Savannah)
For Flores to hold his own as a 16-year-old
in the Appy League would have been quite an accomplishment. However, the native
of Venezuela was actually one of the circuit's better players, amassing an 842
OPS in 245 at-bats before a couple of brief stints at higher levels. Seen as a
future 30-homer guy, Flores has supplanted Martinez in having the greatest
offensive upside in the Mets' system. He's not going to last at shortstop, and
his most obvious landing spot, third base, is likely out as an option with
David Wright entrenched. However, it's something the Mets won't have to worry
about for a few years yet.
Project Prospect
updated their top 200 prospect list in March 2009:
#48 Wilmer Flores SS
Went .310/.351/.490 with .356 wOBA in 265 R-ball PA; puts ball in play:
4.5% BB, 10.6% K
New York Mets Top
5 - by Brett Sullivan - March 26, 2009
Wilmer Flores –
Not many 17-year-olds who have the type of season that Wilmer Flores did in
2008. The Venezuelan was one of the Appalachian League’s best hitters, putting
up a .375 wOBA over 245 PA. He combined legit power (.180 isoP, 8 HR) with the
ability to make tons of contact (10.6 K%) at the level. But in what we’ve seen
so far, Flores can stand to be more patient at the plate (4.5 BB%). Though he
was overmatched during a 32 plate appearance stint in short-season ball, the
current shortstop displayed just about everything else you are looking for from
a potential star. He’s likely to outgrow shortstop. Still several years away
from the bigs, Flores could hit his way up the Mets' chain rapidly and become a
household name at some point.
In 2009, Flores
played the entire season for Savannah: .264/.305/.332/.637 in 488-AB, only 13
errors.
1-1-10 Forecast:
- We never know if the 16-year old bonus babies are going to make out until
three, sometimes four, years later. Most don’t, and, frankly, the string is
still out on Flores. He had an okay season in A-ball… yeah, I know, he’s old
three years old… still, there’s no rush
here, what with Miquel Tejada in line to step in if Jose Reyes goes down (or away).
I wish they’d play him again in Savannah, but he’s probably on his way to
Florida.
I wrote on Feb
10: - Wilmer Flores – everybody on the Mets are still excitied about this kid…
me too… he definitely looks like he has what it takes to make it big time.
Watch for the Mets to move him to Lucy this spring and take his time with him.
There’s no rush since I’m sure Jose Reyes is going nowhere soon. Look for
Flores to graduate to Queens in 2013.
4-15-10: - SS-
A-Savannah: The 18-year old prospect is
repeating A-ball this year, which tends to tell me that the Mets have big, long
range plans for Wilmer. As usual, he's starting the season off with less pop,
but his .333 batting average after 30-AB leads the team in hitting. I stil look
for him to be converted to either right field or first base in the future, but
probably not this year.
4-28-10: - Wilmer
Flores – SS – A-Savannah – the 18-year old Flores is off to his best
professional start. This is his third pro-season and he’s still three years
away from the legal drinking age. More important, is the fact that his pop has
come around these past couple of weeks, especially on the last road trip. Stats
for the season: .338/.384/.525/.909
5-5-10: - SS
Wilmer Flores – A-Savannah – 19/yrs. old – Flores went over 100 at bats on
Tuesday and has impressed once again at the A level: .327/.376/.535/.911. He
especially has stepped up power wise in the last month and seems to be primed
for the next level. The only shortstop prospect ahead of him is Reese Havens,
who’s playing second base lately. If you live around the Savannah area, get a
game in quick. Flores won’t be around long.
SS Wilmer Flores:
Wilmer is dominating during his second year at Savannah. He currently is
batting second in the league with a .343 batting average. This is a kid with a.
946 OPS and he doesn’t turn 19 until August. I’ve had the pleasure of watching
him first hand for two years and this is the real deal. Expect him to be
switched to right field next year and it’s going to very difficult to keep this
kid in the minors past the 2012 season.
5-24-10: - Wilmer
Flores – 3B – A – this is Flores’ second year in Savannah and he definitely
looks ready to move on: .330/.388/.520/.907 in 179-AB. He also is leading the
team in home runs, with five. The problem with any movement is the fact that
St. Lucie gave their shortstop job to 19-year old Wilfredo Tovar, who is
holding his own at the A+ level. Yes, Flores is scheduled to eventually be
moved to the outfield, but that won’t happen until winter ball. Neither Flores
or Tovar would hold their own at the AA level, so my guess is, even though
Wilmer deserves the promotion, he probably is going nowhere.
5-7-11: -
Question: Just what do the Mets do with Wilmer Flores? Flores turns 20-years
old this August. He’s already playing his fourth season in the Mets
organization and is currently hitting .284/.315/.362/.677 for Lucy. The pop
still hasn’t come and he only has one home run this year with 19 runs batted in
(116-AB). He’s leading his team in errors (guess what other infielder he’s tied
with?) and no one has ever projected him as a future shortstop in Queens.
Additionally, his lack of foot speed (this guy is really slow) doesn’t project
him as an outfielder in CitiField.
That leaves first
base and no one is moving Ike Davis, right? The Mets seem to have a bunch of
infield prospects playing the wrong position. 3B Jefry Marte is projected as a
future corner outfielder. 3B Aderlin Rodriguez isn’t thought of as the future
replacement for David Wright. Only SS Wilfredo Tovar is projected to stay in
the infield, but he weighs around twelve pounds and makes Ruben Tejada look
like Miquel Tejada. Normally, I would
say use this guy as trade bait to an AL team, but a .362 slugging percentage
isn’t going to earn him a DH slot. No…
enough with second base.
5-24-11: - Wilmer
Flores needed a good day. He went into Tuesday’s game hitting only .167 in the
past ten games and his slugging percentage was down to a mere .365. Then came a
double, a home run, and five RBIs and hopefully it will be the start of
something good.
5-27-11: - Dan
Valis - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/05/the-invisible-top-prospect-wilmer-flores.html
-
The question remains about when Flores could become a regular
contributor to a franchise that badly needs a bright spot. He doesn’t have a
set position and since he is still so young (something we’ve heard before i.e
Fernando Martinez), he has plenty of time to establish himself as a future
Major Leaguer and not another bust. He hasn’t had ridiculously high
expectations thrust upon him like other top prospects early into their careers
and he is progressing at a steady rate. He’s not a guy who we’ll see this
season, or a guy who will necessarily dominate the Majors quickly, but he’s a
kid who works at his own pace and that has gotten him to top prospect status
rather quickly. As long as there are distractions in the franchise, and sadly
there probably will be, Wilmer Flores looks like a guy who can come up and
surprise a lot of fans. Let’s just hope there will be some other big pieces to
couple with this youngster in the near future so the Mets, and their fans, have
something to look forward to.
6-5-11: - It’s
time for us to take a deeper look at SS Wilmer Flores and see how he is… err…
progressing this season. In his defense, he’s still only 19-years old, which
translates to a college freshman, or sophomore. However, let’s look deeper. The
one true stat teams look for progress from the kids is OPS. Here’s what Wilmer
has done: 2008 K-Port: .842… 2009 Gnats: .637… 2010 Sav/Lucy: .751… 2011 Lucy:
.679. I’m going to keep saying this until someone important reads it. Leave the
kid in Lucy through the 2012 season and give him time to lose his baby fat. At
the same time, bump Robbie Shields ahead of him, which is where he’s supposed
to be in the first place.
7-28-11: - http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2011/index.jsp
- Scouting report: Flores, just 19 for
most of the 2011 season, can flat-out hit. He makes good, consistent contact
and does not strike out much. He's starting to grow into his power, as
evidenced by the jump in extra-base hits a year ago. He doesn't run well, and
the lack of speed likely means he won't be a shortstop long-term. If the bat
continues to develop as it seems it might, it's quite possible he'll hit enough
to be a big league third baseman in the future
8-4-11: - Stock
Up - Wilmer Flores – Yes, the Mets are still trying to figure out a position
for Flores to play, but let’s not forget what Toby Hyde pointed out after
Wednesday’s game. Wilmer is ranked fourth in the Florida State League with
69-RBIs… and he’s still only 19-years old (birthday is on Saturday). Last ten
games: .353/.410/.647.
8-11-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/baseball-americas-mets-top-10-list-prior-to-2011-where-are-they-now.html
- SS – Wilmer Flores: Once again the
young prospect has struggled with his overall play. He has sown some flashes of
his potential, but has not put together a season that proves is anywhere near
major league ready at this point. He
also not proven that he is deserving of being ranked at the top of the Mets
farm system, hence all of the mid-season lists having him dropped to the bottom
of the top 10 now. Started 2011: Single-A
Currently: Single-A
8-22-11
Observation: - 1B Wilmer Flores – Flores has done everything he can to convince
the Mets that he can make it someday as a third baseman, but the reality is he
can’t. He is too slow which takes out any corner outfield option as well. I
would keep him in Florida for another season, playing and learning first base.
Hopefully, his bat will blossom to its projected level. - ETA: Ready in 2013,
but blocked
10-10-11: -
https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/132edccbf718965f - Top five Met prospects
- Sunday, October 9, 2011 - The Record -
3. Wilmer Flores, SS, 20 (.269, nine homers, 81 RBI for St. Lucie): Not an
eye-catching year in 2011, but his bat has drawn raves not only from scouts,
but from the likes of Carlos Beltran, who said, "He does things I couldn’t
at that age." No one sees him sticking as a shortstop.
10-18-11: - (The
Keepers Update to #10) - I have no idea where this guy is going to play in
2012. I have him on first base. He's just too slow for a corner outfield
position. 2012 will be his year to prove if he's a... well... keeper.
10-26-11: -
http://www.metstoday.com/7132/mets-minors/a-look-into-the-future-top-shortstop-prospects -
Wilmer Flores - DOB: 8/6/1991 Birthplace: Valencia, Venezuela Height: 6’3”
Weight: 175 R/R - I know it is not fair to write off a player
at the age of 19 (cough, cough, cough Nelson Cruz) but I have to. By now,
Flores is supposed to be Detroit Tigers first basemen Miguel Cabrera. He’s
supposed to be knocking over 20 homeruns, showing great plate discipline. But
it’s just not there yet. I think Flores is not responsible for the
disappointment. You can blame publications like Baseball America for
over-hyping someone, as they did with Alex Escobar and Fernando Martinez.
Flores had a pretty decent season at high-A St. Lucie, hitting 9 homeruns while
driving in 81 runs. He hit .269, which was a bit disappointing. That’s all I
really have to say about him. I hope he proves me wrong. He will not be at
shortstop if he makes it to the big leagues. He’ll be in a corner outfield spot
due to his lack of speed and mobility. He’ll be 19 at the start of the 2012
season, presumably back in St. Lucie. This will be a huge test to determine if
he is indeed the future of the Mets.
11-2-11: - http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/36313/flores-short-stop-not-over
- "That's something we reevaluate
every spring with all of our infielders depending on roster composition and
long-term plan," DePodesta indicated. "But at this point, yes, there
isn't a plan to move him. ... Wilmer Flores
is playing where the (winter-ball) club needs him. Last winter he played
primarily third base. They have our blessing to move him around, as we think
that type of exposure is good for all of our infielders."
10-25-11: - http://www.minorleaguerundown.com/2011/10/25/2011-top-20-new-york-mets-prospects
- 2011 Top 20 New York Mets Prospects
- 6.Wilmer Flores, SS/3rd (High Class
A): Hmm. Flores has been one of the biggest prospect names in the lower levels
for a while now. Unfortunately for the Mets, his power still hasn’t shown up
like they thought it would. You still definitely have to keep faith though, as
he just turned 20 in August, and the tools still show up in games. Wilmer’s
walk rate did improve marginally and his K rate didn’t go any farther north,
but his power numbers were stagnant once again. The rumors that he might
eventually move to third only further exacerbate Flores’ need to show some
power.
11-18-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/mets-top-position-player-prospects-were-disappointing-in-2011.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MetsMerizedOnline-GetMetsmerized-NewYorkMets+%28Mets+Merized+Online%29
- Wilmer Flores: Coming into this season
he was touted as the top prospect in the Mets entire farm system. Scouts have raved about his bat and “special
hands” for years, but when are we going to see it? I know he is young, and just turned 20 years
of age, but he has now played 4 full seasons in the Minor leagues and we are
still waiting. His season line was just
very unimpressive with the exception of the fact that he drove in over 80
runs. At this point in his young career
he doesn’t walk enough (26 in 507 AB’s), and his power stroke has not fully
developed like many had hoped it would.
He had just 9 home runs this year, down from his professional high of 11
last season. He still has not consistently driven the ball in the gaps as he
only had 26 doubles on the season, also down from his high of 34 last
season. His production is not awful, it
is just not worthy of all the hype, and especially not worthy of an
organizational top prospect ranking. He
began the year playing for Single-A St. Lucie, and that is exactly where he
finished the season. He did not perform
well enough to be promoted like many of his teammates did. Being that this is his
fourth full professional season, not being promoted speaks volumes for where he
is right now.
11-20-11: - http://baseballinstinct.com/2011/11/20/prospect-instinct-wilmer-flores-ss-new-york-mets
- I’m thinking that Flores will see a
bounce back season in 2012 which will save his prospect status. Moving away
from the FSL will give him a boost on its own and when you take into
consideration his unlucky 2011, there is reason to believe that success is in
store. The biggest question is going to be how much weight is he going to pack
on to that frame and how much power is it going to supply. He will need to be a
30+ HR type to make it as a 1B and that ultimately is where he will probably
need to play. He has the bat speed to hit for that kind of power if his frame
provides it. Unfortunately, in my opinion, I think that Flores is a below
average defender at 3B which is where his bat would be most useful. I don’t see
him developing the elite HR power that was projected and at 20 years old there
isn’t much time from him to add solid weight.
I think he will eventually fit in as a platoon 1B with 20 HR power. But
I’m going to reserve this one final offseason to see how he comes into camp in
St. Lucie and watch his Double-A season closely. He has the talent and bat
speed to turn on the power in the blink of an eye. Time is just running very,
very short.
11-28-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/mmo-top-20-mets-prospects-8-wilmer-flores-inf.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MetsMerizedOnline-GetMetsmerized-NewYorkMets+%28Mets+Merized+Online%29
- Flores is certainly still young and
raw, but with 4 minor league seasons, and 1838 minor league at-bats, he has
laid the foundation for what should be a very solid big league career someday.
As he matures physically, his best position on the field will become clear,
along with an emerging ability to drive the ball out of the yard. In the
meantime, look for Flores to hit for a much higher average next season as he
catches up in age to the other players around him, and adjusts to more advanced
pitching. Hopefully he will transition well to a new defensive position that is
better suited to his skill-set, which would move him a step or two closer to
The Show. Next year will be crucial for Flores’ development, and with luck, I
look for him to be a viable candidate to bring up to the Mets by September of
2013.
1-3-12 - http://mets360.com/?p=8885&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mets360%2Ffeed+%28Mets360+Feed%29
- 6. Wilmer Flores, SS, Hi-A,
.269/.309/.380 in 559 PA - Everyone wants to write off Flores but while his
stock has dropped considerably it’s way too early to dismiss a guy who played
most of last year at age 19. For a comparison, David Wright batted .270 as a 20
year old in St. Lucie. As for Flores’ future, he’s four months younger than
Puello, they put up similar-type seasons at the same level and Flores still has
a chance to stick in the infield. Everyone is burned out on hearing about
Flores, especially given that he hasn’t had a monster year yet in full-season
ball. But neither has Puello. Flores will start the season in Double-A and if
he fails to put up good numbers in hitter-friendly Binghamton than we’ll know
that his ship has passed.
1-10-12 -
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-15-prospects-new-york-mets/ 5. Wilmer Flores, 3B/SS
BORN: Aug. 6, 1991
EXPERIENCE: 4 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2007 international free agent
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 1st
SCOUTING REPORT:
It’s hard to believe Flores is just 20 years old… He’s been kicking around the
prospect landscape since his high-profile signing in 2007 but his value has
also been heading down, rather than up in recent years. Due to a lack of range,
Flores is very close to moving off shortstop – and likely over to third base
where he projects to be an average-at-best offensive threat. The 20-year-old
prospect is too aggressive and has yet to tap into his raw power potential.
YEAR IN REVIEW:
Flores played much of 2011 at the age of 19, and was one of the younger players
in the league, but he posted an wRC+ of just 88 while repeating high-A. His ISO
rate of .110 is going to have to take a big jump if he’s going to handle third
base on a regular basis. His batting average of .269 was also nothing to write
home about.
YEAR AHEAD: The
young prospect will likely not be asked to head back to high-A for a third
go-around – it would likely be too big of a blow to his confidence. Flores,
though, could struggle as he learns to adapt to the more advanced pitchers in
double-A who will use his aggressiveness to their advantage – even more so than
hurlers did in A-ball. He’s probably still two years away from the Majors,
unless he suddenly matures as a hitter and makes significant adjustments.
CAREER OUTLOOK:
Flores currently projects to develop into a starting third baseman on a
second-division team -and has seen his value take a huge hit in recent years.
He would be even further down the prospect list if he were in a stronger
system. The good news is that, at just 20 years of age, he still has plenty of
time to improve.
1-8-11: -
http://nybaseballdigest.com/2012/01/07/most-intriguing-mets-prospects-in-2012/ 5) Wilmer Flores (SS) – The time is now for
Flores. He probably gets a look at Double-A and he needs to show that his
improved plate discipline in the VWL this winter was legitimate. He also HAS to
start showing some power. If he doesn’t develop the power that was expected of
him he’s going to be a bust. He cannot stick at shortstop, but will probably
continue to play it for the time being.
1-16-12 -
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120115&content_id=26355832&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym&partnerId=rss_nym - Because of his frame and skill set, Flores
never profiled as a classic middle infielder, even from his earliest days as a
prospect. Most projections pegged him as a third baseman or corner outfielder,
confident that he would develop a strong enough offensive profile to stick at
those positions. To that end, the Mets allowed Flores to play almost
exclusively at third base during Winter Ball in Venezuela, where he batted .301
with a .382 on-base percentage. It was the first tangible positive in some time
for Flores, who posted on-base marks of .309 and .324 during extended runs at
Class A St. Lucie in 2010 and 2011. Now, Flores finds himself at something of a
career crossroads. Either the Mets send him back to St. Lucie, where he will no
longer be notably young for the level, or they promote him to Double-A
Binghamton on the basis of nothing more than projection.
1-19-12 - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120117&content_id=26367440&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb&tcid=tw_article_26367440
- Wilmer Flores, Mets: It's easy to
look at Flores' numbers and feel like he's been disappointing, especially for a
highly-touted prospect. But considering he's still just 20 years old, and will
be for most of 2012, and that he's reached the Class A Advanced level, it might
soften those criticisms. Flores still has things to learn, particularly in the
plate discipline department, but he rarely strikes out and there's power to tap
into. A shortstop for the first few years of his career, the move to third most
predicted started in Venezuela this winter. This is a big year for Flores, who
needs to start turning potential into performance, perhaps while playing in
Double-A.
1-20-12 - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/01/prospect-pulse-the-2012-st-lucie-mets.html
Wilmer Flores (3B) - This should only
be temporary. I fully expect Flores to be promoted to Bingo, sometime during
the first half of the season. Starting 2012 at St. Lucie represents the second
year in a row for Flores to be in sunny Florida. Before that starts to resemble
a stagnating prospect, the Mets will want to get him the heck out of there, as
soon as possible. Flores just needs to show that he has mastered the Florida
State League, and he will be moved up to Binghamton to replace the
“seat-warmer” that will be occupying the 3B position there until Flores
arrives.
1-27-12: - http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=6509
6. 3B Wilmer Flores - Baseball-Reference
player profile - The Mets management of their top Latin American prospects from
2006-2009 has undergone plenty of scrutiny from baseball analysts, as the team
consistently rushed prospects to levels well above where normal development
would place them. Players like OF Fernando Martinez and RHP Jennry Mejia are
two obvious examples, with Flores a third. The Mets paid Flores a $750,000
bonus out of Venezuela in 2007 and he was playing in rookie ball as a 16-year
old. Despite having three clubs at the rookie level, the Mets played him the
entire season in the South Atlantic League as a 17-year old in 2008. Despite
evidence that he wasn’t developing as a hitter, he was in the Hi A Florida State
League as an 18 year old and played over 360 games in A ball as a teenager.
Taken in context, Flores' .269-9-81 performance in the Florida State League in
2011 is outstanding for a 19-year old who projects to be an above average
defensive player at third base. However, he hardly walks (27 times in 559 plate
appearances) and saw his power numbers regress from 2010. If the Mets learn
patience with players such as Flores and others, the talent already in their
system might take a big jump all by itself.
SS Wilmer Flores - The 20-yr
old Flores drops nine spots on this list -- and right out of the top ten -- for
the simple reason that he didn't hit enough in 2011. Though I suppose that
warrants a bit more discussion. Specifically, it has become clear by now that
his defensive home will not be shortstop. This puts additional pressure on his
bat to improve a lot in order to play to a position where more offense is
expected, be that third base, left field, etc.* However, not only did he not
improve a lot, he didn't really improve at all, which isn't really good even if
he wasn't moving to left field. As you can see, he didn't regress -- at least
not when you figure he played a full season at Hi-A instead of a half season in
2010. Instead he just looked like the same guy as 2010, which isn't ideal from
any young player that hasn't yet reached his peak, let alone someone that needs
to improve quite a bit. Now he's shown some things this winter -- namely much
better plate discipline -- with his club in the VWL. But I've found that the
more stock you place in winter league stats, the more you're going to find
yourself disappointed. At this point there's too much good talent at the top of
this system to continue to put such high hopes in the 'age vs level' prospects.
That may have flown with guys like FMart and Gomez back when the system was
weaker but not now. Especially lacking any plus-plus tool, now Flores needs to
hit to earn his place. And to this point he's shown that he's an un-athletic,
rather slow player who can indeed make good contact but shows average at best
power, a stagnating hit tool and may be able to handle third, if we're lucky
(according to some scouts). In other words, a trumped up Danny Valencia.
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/2/6/2768128/2012-amazin-avenue-mets-top-50-prospect-15-11
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