2/5/21

Reese Kaplan -- Climbing the Pitching Rotation Ladder Looks Scary Right Now

 


As Spring Training approaches, the fans are getting a little antsy about the lack of activity by the Mets to make substantive moves to improve the roster.  Don’t get me wrong.  No one is disputing the excellent trade to improve the infield defense and offense by landing Francisco Lindor from the Indians. 

Few were as high on the pitcher Carlos Carrasco, but all it takes is a brief perusal of the stats for him vs. say Trevor Bauer to see who has a bigger history of quality.  He earns less than half (and perhaps as little as 1/3) of what Bauer will take home from whomever favors 60-game performance over a long term track record.  He pitches to a better ERA, better WHIP and better control.  Yet, folks are less than thrilled to have him on board for two full seasons at $12 million and an option for a third at $14 million (or a $3 million buyout).  Put succinctly, three full seasons of Carrasco will cost $37 million.  Two full seasons would cost $27 million if the buyout option is exercised.  That cost is a huge delta over what Bauer would require in a paycheck even if he could somehow come close to his one other decent season to go along with 7 of mediocrity. 

Right now the Mets are still somewhat unsteady when it comes to the starting rotation after the top three of Jacob deGrom, Carlos Carrasco and Marcus Stroman.  As I opined earlier this week, no one is getting their Joey Lucchesi or David Peterson jerseys as of yet.  There is a definite need for a starter number four and then you can live with one of these wildcards until and if Noah Syndergaard comes back ready to pitch. 


If we all remember the Cincinnati era of the Big Red Machine, it’s possible but probably not wise to gamble that your offense will overcome pitchers who hurl in the 4.50 or higher ERA range.  If you’re facing a quality starter like Clayton Kershaw or Max Scherzer then it doesn’t matter how many runs you normally score because good pitching beats good hitting. 

Sandy Alderson (for lack of anyone else in the front office) is getting applause for filling out the upper level of the minor leagues with reasonable pitching options that will help the Syracuse team perform at a higher level, but no one is holding their breath waiting for the big league success from the three recent imports for Steven Matz, nor for Franklyn Kilome nor for Tony Dibrell to cause fear and panic in MLB batters.  If not for the pandemic, I would float the old cliché about putting fans in the seats.  They are filler but not true long term prospects.


I could see Thomas Szapucki eventually being capable of earning a major league payday, but injuries have cost him a lot of his minor league development time and it appears as if he’s in the witness protection program.  The 24 year old lefty last pitched in 2019 and offered up a combined 2.63 ERA across three leagues and 18 starts.  For his four-year minor league career he owns a 2.42 ERA with fairly decent control, so if healthy he could be a piece for at least the AA or AAA rotation this season.  He’s not yet likely ready to make the jump to the majors, but then no one expected that AA-to-the-majors move for David Peterson last year either.               

The Mets really do need to look at free agency and the trade route to land pitchers capable of being 4th or 5th starters with good health and a solid track record.  No one is looking for Seth Lugo or Robert Gsellman to make a permanent transition from the pen to the starting rotation.  It requires outside talent to supplement who’s already here and who is taking up space in the minors. 

7 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

If Bauer is there, and the Mets win out, I will be happy, knowing full well that big signings can become big busts. Saw the clip of Bauer striking out the 12 Braves in the playoffs. Looked VERY impressive.

The old mode of calling guys up and hoping for success has been checkered at best. The expected stars the Mets have brought up have done very well other than Steve Matz. The rest of the call ups have not, except for the surprising Jeff McNeil and (so far) David Peterson. So so so many other pitching call ups have FAILED.

We all have no idea if Austin Powere a/k/a Tom Szapucki, the International Man of Mystery, will succeed when called up, even though we hope he will. Kilome, Lucchesi, Yomamato? Hopefully, Lucchesi and Yoma will succeed, but they seem like .500 at best starters. That does not get a team to the World Series. Bauer very well could.

Biblically, a man's full life span is 3 score and 10. We've spent half a life span since winning a World Series. I don't want to waste another year in that regard. Getting past Atlanta and LAD just to get to the World Series is a STEEP challenge, and we need to fight fire with fire.

We need Bauer. If he fails, which I don't think he will, write him off and keep spending.

Tom Brennan said...

Is Tom Szapucki in anyone's top 100 MLB prospects? Not sure, but if not, let's set our hopes accordingly.

John From Albany said...

Tom - I have not seen Szapucki in anyone's top 100 MLB prospect list.

Gary Seagren said...

I wake up everyday grateful for alot of things in my life even though as John Denver once sang "Some days are Damonds and some days are Stones" and one of them is Steve Cohen is our owner not Fred Wilpon. To waste the last 12 years with incompetent ownership (although through sheer luck and empathy from the baseball Gods we got 2015) was painful in many ways but that's over. Whatever happens now going forward I'm all in because I truly believe Steve's in it to win it and when did we all last believe that? Also a shout out to all you guys for your great work on this site it's my first go to in the morning.

Tom Brennan said...

Gary, thanks much.

I wonder if the Wilpons had had another $1 billion lying around how much better they would have been as owners. My guess? Not much better.

Hopefully, we sign Bauer and win 100 games in 2021.

Zozo said...

I wouldn’t be too upset if we didn’t get Bauer as long we sign Odorizzi at or around the same Cookie is making. I would actually prefer it.

I would also trade the farm for Castillo and Suarez even if we get Bauer or Odorizzi.

Baty, Vientos, JD, Kilome, Valdez and Betances for Suarez and Castillo. If I have to add Peterson in the deal to make it happen I will do so as well.
We shore up our pitching staff for 3 years, can let Stroman and/or Syndergaard walk if we can’t come to an agreement at years end. We also can always trade Suarez or Castillo later on for picks as well to recoup what we lost.

Remember1969 said...

What team has 5 starters that are paid over $10M each? Is it even necessary? I agree that deGrom, Bauer, Carrasco, and Syndergaard would make a pretty scary rotation going to the playoffs, but there are still plenty of arms to fill the last, or even the last two spots.

I really don't like to see drafted players stalled out because they are blocked.

Szapucki needs to start the year at Syracuse, but he has some decent minor league results so far, and could be a good call-up later this year, especially being a southpaw.

Peterson was a number 1 (20th overall) draft pick 4 years ago. He does not seem to get the love of a #1. He needs to throw more innings and I really wonder if he has 180+ in his arm this year, but . . .

I really don't think they signed Sam McWilliams to a major league contract to stash him forever in the minor league depth pile. (My sleeper pick to end up on the opening day roster - either as the #5 starter or the long man in the pen)

Yamamoto has shown signs of being a very good pitcher. I think this is a good pickup - yes, depth but I also wouldn't count him out of throwing some very key innings this year.

I am not such a fan of Lucchesi, but he has had some success in the past. Maybe he is another case of unlocking the talent.

Odorizzi would be a serious overpay. They had a guy with very similar stats over the last three years that they just traded and would cost a lot less (yes, that Steven Matz). I really hope they don't go that way. Walker would be a better option, and I wonder why I have heard nothing about him anywhere.

And the trade with the Reds, not a fan of that. Castillo is good, Suarez has some power, but is not the guy that is needed at this point, especially for that load of players that Zozo suggests.