11/8/21

Tom Brennan - Mending Fences: Mets' Hitters Are Road Warriors, but Home Blues Make Citifield an Unattractive Neighborhood for Those Hitters

Would you buy in this neighborhood?  How is the Quality of Life?

Free agency, well, it is a lot like home buying.

You hope to get the best financial deal, sure.

But in buying a home, you want to live, among other things, where you're productive and happy.

Same in baseball - you want the park where you call home to make you productive and happy.

Happiness as a hitter is hitting successfully, and making the playoffs.

So...what does the Mets "neighborhood" have to offer?  

The equivalent, it seems, of high crime and distraction.

As in, low home scoring and few playoff appearances, as in 3 in 20 seasons, to be precise.

Hitting-wise, the Mets are road warriors since the last fence move in.  Let me prove that.

Over the past 7 seasons (6 full and one 60 gamer) since the fences were moved in prior to the 2015 season, the Mets have scored 111 more total runs ON THE ROAD than the average major league team, and 47 more homers.  

Keep in mind, I am comparing the Mets hitters to ALL MLB teams, including AL teams with the DH, so logically, one would think they'd score less.  To me, this shows this Mets squad since 2015 has been above average offensively.

Considering they mostly hit without a DH, that is excellent offensive production on the road.

"But," a free agent shopper might ask his realtor, who might be named - oh, I dunno - Boras, "what sort of neighborhood is the Citifield section of Corona, Queens?"

"Well. Mr. Free Agent Shopper," said the realtor/agent in reply, "not so good, I'm afraid, but you be the judge, sir.  You're the one that has to live here.  I get my commission and leave."

In fact, over the past 7 seasons (6 full and one 60 gamer) since the fences were moved in prior to the 2015 season, the Mets have scored a whopping 271 less total runs AT HOME than the average major league team, and just 7 more homers.  

Could you imagine if, like on the road, the Mets also scored 111 more runs at home over those 6.4 seasons, and not 271 less, than the opposition?  

That 382 run deficit represents a LOT of offense.  

In fact, in those 6 full seasons (excluding 2020's shorty), the Mets averaged 361 runs a season on the road, the place where they do their best hitting.  

That 382 run deficit in scoring at home since 2015?  That's equal to more than a full season's road scoring!

The Mets have averaged being 11th best in baseball in scoring runs on the road, despite not having a DH.  Man, that's solid.

At home, though, they've averaged a paltry 25th best in baseball in scoring runs.  As a fan, just looking at run production at home, you'd think the hitters - well - suck.

Many fans think just that about many Mets hitters.

Who wants to live in a neighborhood where due to circumstances beyond your control, you're less productive, and the neighbors are illogically hostile to you as a result?

Players know this - the bigger home shoppers only come (or agree to stay) for a bigger paycheck. Like Francisco Lindor, who quickly hated the boos.

James McCann (.217 at home, .246 on the road) being another recent example.  If he hit his road slash of .246/.300/.372 in all of his 2021 games, I think fans would have been much more satisfied with him.

So you miss the best talent, because players like to make the playoffs, which the Mets usually do not, and hitters like to hit well, which at Citifield they usually do not.

Kevin Pillar packed up and left.  At home this year, he hit a power-squeezed .203.  On the road, a solidly powered .256.  He said Citifield is hard to hit in.  

So also said Jeff McNeil.  In that comment, he included Pete Alonso when he said it, who had just missed a HR that night.  

Pete, case in point, had 25 homers in 77 road games, a 50 HR pace.  A pace he is capable of.  

At home, he hit a mere 12 in 75 games, just a 25 HR pace.

Pete loves NY.  But if you get him thinking about it for long enough, he might think he'd be better off playing somewhere else, where he could hit 50 HRs a season because the home park is not a hindrance, and thus be more "productive and happy".

Michael Conforto may soon leave.  Did he seem "productive and happy" at home to you this year?  Didn't think so.

His 2021 slash lines home and away were fairly even, although his slugging % was 50 points lower at home, probably the result of several long drive near-misses that would have been just out, or off the wall, elsewhere.  

Career-wise, his home and away slash line is virtually identical.

Which sounds OK, at first, but a hitter would hope to reap more of a home field advantage hitting, not home neutrality.  I am not saying it would be a large advantage, but it ought to be somewhat more productive at home than away.

Pretty soon, old Michael, he may find a new neighborhood, more to his liking in terms of offensive productivity and playoff frequency.  Who could blame him?  In the blink of an eye, his career is likely already half, or more than half, over. Time to cash in and move to a better neighborhood.  I would.  A friendlier park where I get to play meaningful October baseball.

The Mets need to do whatever they can to create an attractive, productive neighborhood for shoppers.

Me?  I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'd move the fences in 5-7 feet, and just 400 in CF.  That ought to restore, oh, about 382 runs that have gone missing at home since 2015 due to substandard home hitting conditions.

Look at it this way: if over a 7 season stretch, the Mets are the 11th highest scoring road team. To me that means over those 7 years, they are the 11th best hitting team, AL and NL. But you just wouldn’t know it once you factor in their 25th best home scoring, would you?

Allow me to conclude:

The Mets last announced a fence move in on November 18, 2014.

I would be thrilled to read on November 18, 2021 that they are doing it again, in order to improve and beautify their neighborhood.  Make it, to use a 2021 woke word, more equitable.

Because right now, in terms of attracting and retaining offensive talent, it is a lousy neighborhood.  Depressing.

And "Depressing" doesn't spin the turnstiles.

Mending fences is always a great thing to do.


19 comments:

Mack Ade said...

Sent to Mr. Cohen

Paul Articulates said...

Tom,
Good research, and shocking splits!
Scoring in your home ballpark is important, not only for wins but for fans.
However, I don't think you're at root cause yet when you blame the fences.
In the NL East, CitiField has the longest CF (408 ft), but only by a little - all the other teams' parks are between 400 and 407. In RF, CitiField is the shortest at 330 ft. In Left, CitiField is 2nd shortest at 335 ft (tied with ATL).
So is it the fences, or is it prevailing winds, or the batters' eye, or is it the fact that the Mets face more good pitching at home? I don't know, but if Mr. Cohen and his staff doesn't correct the root cause, the Mets will run a deficit again in 2022.

Tom Brennan said...

Paul, it is true, I don't know, but someone else analyzed it and found there is less carry off the bats in Citifield. Why, don't know. My guess is that the ball does carry 5-7 feet shorter than most parks on long blasts, hence the simple fix (subject to much more analysis than mine) is to move the fences in 5-7 feet, and make the CF fence a curved 400 feet, rather than that straight across 408.

I feel like I am the general physician who check test data and found an issue. Now, I refer it to Steve Cohen's specialists to do far more in depth analysis to find out what the heck is going on.

Because no team in baseball should have a home scoring rank 14 rungs below their road scoring over several seasons. No team.

The successful Yankees, which I did not analyze comparatively? My guess is they are the 10th best in road scoring, compared to the Mets' 11th. At home, Yanks are probably 3rd, we're 25th, and I can guarantee you in wins and losses, they have a far bigger home field advantage over the past several seasons than the Mets.

John From Albany said...

In 2019 the Mets had one of their best offensive years. Pete 27 HRs at Citi Field. Conforto - 18. JD Davis - 16. Same stadium dimensions - what happened since then? No Chilli, no hit? Interesting. Here is more on 2019

http://macksmets.blogspot.com/2019/10/john-from-albany-jd-davis-and-other.html?m=0

Tom Brennan said...

John, Chili is an interesting thought - but then, hitting would have suffered road and home without him, not just at home.

That's why I picked 2015-21, since the last fence move in....6.4 full seasons, in which the Mets scored 11th most on the road (strong) and 25th at home (bad). They need to evaluate that dichotomy.

Let's say it was a pitchers' park - fine. Then, it should be 11th on the road and 15th at home. A 14 rung gap is just absurd to tolerate. It's the Mets' HOME PARK. Maximize your own park to your advantage.

I think it is dead air and wind issues. Again, most homers are well out. It's those balls that should go out that are caught on the back half of the track that kill hitters. This is a park where hitters go to die.

I went to a game, I think in mid 2015, where Murphy smoked a drive to right center. I was sure it was gone. It smacked off the fence about 5 feet up, though. If I was Murph, I would have felt a little sick. That was a HR that the park prevented, in my opinion. Probably in his opinion, too.

Tom Brennan said...

John, I will go one step further. If I was Michael Conforto, I'd hope Boras could get me to Yankee Stadium.

Curtis Granderson hit 84 homers as a Yank in 2011 and 2012. 47 at home, 37 on the road, but he had about 50 more ABs on the road. Same home vs road ratio in 2010. That park rocks for lefties. I could see Conforto hitting 35 a year playing for them, or 25 a year if he stays in Queens. 35 is much more fun. Man, if I was Conforto, I'd go to the Bronx in a heartbeat and have FUN.

The year before he became a Yank, Grandy had 30 HRs in 160 games in Detroit, his best season to that point.

In his 4 years as a Met, guess what....Curtis did well on the road, with 61 HRs. At "home" in Citi? Just 39 HRs. What an ugly disparity. In Yankee Stadium, that 39 at home would have been 69.

It makes me so mad, frankly. This park is a problem. A big one.

John From Albany said...

Bring back Shea. So what if the toilets backed up.

Anonymous said...

Repeating The Original Sin

This will probably hit many of you as borderline ridiculousness I would imagine. I accept that and wear it well. This is in regards to the past NYM signings of free agents, who by the way are never free as we know.

My contention here is simply this, the NY Mets have been signing FA's for a longtime (Mike Hampton of "The Hampton 5") maybe being the first one in 1971. Yet truly, how many of them really ever made a significant impact here with this team once acquired I ask you? Yo' is one of the more recent, at least until the calcium in his feet exploded. But look at all the expensive FA losers this team has signed. Kazuo Matsui ($20 million for 3 years), Luis Castillo (yawn) (4 years at $25 million), Jason "Sleepy" Bay (4 years at $66 million), Frank Francisco (I still have never heard of him) 2 years at $21 million, Michael "The Cuddster" Cudyer ($21 million for 2 years), Big Bad Leroy Bobby Bonilla (30 years at $29 million), Roger Cedeno ($18 million for 4 years of brilliance), Vince "Firecracker" Coleman at $11.95 for five years, and Ollie "No Hardy"Perez at three years $36 million.

Two words describe the Mets history and they are "not good". Now, can you name any of this organization FA signings that worked out really well for this team besides Yoenis Cespedes?

On the other hand here, the "DDGA" (draft, develop, groom) approach of player personnel has actually worked out much, much better for this team and at a much higher percentage as well. Look at 2019 as an example here. (See Luis Rojas for the precise stats on this if interested.)

This is why we need the next wave of rookie Mets players that deserve a chance to get a sincere look at 2022 ST.

It's sort of..."You can pay me know or pay me later."

(Your choice.)

Anonymous said...

What else does this team need right now?

Simple.

Bartolo Colon as the bullpen coach, for now.

He has an uncanny way of keeping things light hearted, and I miss that even as a fan just watching the games.

Bartolo to the rescue!

Paul Articulates said...

Here's one for Anonymous above: Donn Clendenon

Tom Brennan said...

Paul, Donn Clendenon hit in the ultimate joke park, cavernous old Forbes Field. In 1966, I think, he hit an Alonso-like 25 HRs on the road…and 3 at home. My ultimate memory there were the back-to-back opposite field triples by Clemente and Cledenon, both off the 436 sign in right center. Criminal.

Anonymous said...

Balls Not Carrying

Simple Solution not involving Citi field fence. Get a huge industrial sized fan. When Mets come up turn it on. Then turn off when opposing team at bat.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

Tom Brennan said...

Joe Biden needs the industrial fan, I hear. You're welcome.

Anonymous said...

Starling Marte

When I first read online (a couple of weeks ago) that the Mets may be looking at Marte, I was not really impressed. But upon further thinking, Starling Marte actually would make perfect sense for here in 2022.

He isn't a pure HR bat, but rather has a .289 career BA with a nice OBP as well. He is 100% professional and he can be counted on for veteran leadership.

Here's why also Marte makes some sense.

I think Michael Conforto is gone. I wasn't really sure if I wanted him back after his Covid19 filled 2021 season because it was said that he caught it twice I think that I heard. But did he catch it twice or did it perhaps not leave his system, and so when he got a little run down did it come back? I simply do not know. I am not a singer or an actor, so I really do not know everything.

My big push here is for the Mets to try something "new" like bringing up Mark Vientos, Khalil Lee, Ronnie Mauricio, Francisco Alvarez, Brett Baty (when ready)...I want this team to not only get younger and better, but also more exciting. Young players doing very well have a way of doing that. Maybe steal a bag or two in one game even. My goodness gracious.

This Starling Marte acquisition does make sense to me on two fronts.

1. He is 33 years old now (still good) and not cost preventative for the Mets. But also, Starling I think would allow the Mets to have four good outfielders allowing Khalil Lee to get a shot in 2022 even to start. Best three starting outfielders start of course, with the fourth guy subbing in at say the corners since Nimmo and Lee can both play the CF aptly well.

I prefer this to getting a much higher priced veteran outfielder whom the Mets would probably feel compelled to start like 90% of the season in the outfield no matter how he does. Guys like Joc Pederson (so-so really), Kris Bryant (age 30 and a $20 million a year OF who hit just .265 BA in '21), or a Jorge Soler (age 30 with a .246 career BA). There are many veteran OF's out there available, but pretty much all are bank busters and really not worth bidding wildly on their services.

To me, a good MLB team does not rely on Free Agents every single season and in number. It is (I think) a sign that someone within a team's management core responsible for player personnel, is not doing their player drafting and development very well. And that becomes the big problem.

Tom Brennan said...

Anyone posting as Anonymous, please use a name or handle instead.

Remember1969 said...

Some success stories in the FA scene: Carlos Beltran, Curtis Granderson, Pedro Martinez, and a guy we lost this morning way too young, Pedro Feliciano.

There are quite a few other smaller deals that did work out quite well.

Mack Ade said...

Planning open thread question on this subject

Remember1969 said...

I am a little late to this party, and I see what Tom has written and am well aware that he is on a one-man warpath to move the fences in .. BUT . .

Results matter.


The Mets were 47-34 at Citi Field in 2021. When they hit better on the road, they were an abysmal 30 and 51. Do you think the pitchers might appreciate Citi Field just the way it is?

Let's leave the dimensions alone and build the team around higher average guys with some speed and learn how to manufacture runs. Or maybe push the fences out at all the other ball parks as they seem to know how to win in the big one.

RDS900 said...

'69 makes a good point. Mets have traditionally been a pitching first tesm.