8/4/22

Tom Brennan - Mets' Historical First Round Picks - a Recap


Low draft grades can really muck things up over time.

Mack this year took us on a long, fun journey through "the draftables".

Lots of weeds - he brought his Mack Ultra Weed Whacker in numerous articles to clear away the debris.

Then the Mets turned speculation into reality - they drafted 22 guys in 20 rounds.

Now, we'll see how those draftees do, once they have put ink to paper.

Before I do, we all know first rounders sometimes fail, and so I wanted to look again at my favorite 2022 underdog Mets prospect: 

Wyatt Young

The 2021 15th rounder played in the Florida Complex Rookie League in 2021 and hit .370 in under 100 at bats.  Usually, that means, "hello, St Lucie."  Jump one level. Instead he has spent virtually his whole first full season first in AAA (a jump of FOUR levels and the only guy hitting there in April) and then got bumped down to AA.  

He struggled in AA a bit for a few stretches, but now has a 12 game hit streak, and in the last 11 games, has 17 hits and 10 walks!!!!  On base 27 times in 11 games! Doing what no one else does (going from rookie Complex ball straight to the high minors), he has hit an utterly commendable .273/.358/.377 in 86 AA and AAA games.  Little guy has 4 HRs, 3 of those in the past 4 weeks. Defensively, the little guy has just 3 errors at 2B and 7 at SS.  "Just" 67 Ks in 374 plate appearances.  Wow.  Wyatt seems like a great utility player in development. Honestly, 27 times in 11 games? Sounds like he could survive in the majors right now.

But back to first rounders - how did first rounders from 1965 through 2022 rate, you ask me (well, I know you did not ask me, but I will tell you anyway).  

I took into account in my subjective rankings where the guy fell in round 1 - so, if a Paul Wilson was first overall, and Anthony Kay was 31st overall, and they performed the same, Wilson would get a worse grade.

First, a ranking by my assigned grade.  Lots and lots of low scores.  

Drafting can be a crap shoot, but shoot, there's a lot of crap here.  

F's?  I count 22 of them.

D+, D, D-?  I count 9 of them.

So more than half the Mets' first round picks were Ds and Fs.

Nine more in the C category, so 40 were C or lower, and fewer than 20 were As or Bs.  

You really want your long-term scorecard to read the opposite.

Thoughts?

SEASON

PLAYER

POS

PICK

GRADE

 

1982

Dwight Gooden

RHP

5

A++

Should have been a HOF

2022

Parada

C

11

A+

I’ll give him an A+ and let him earn it.

2022

2020

Jett Williams

Crow

IF

CF

14

19

A

A

I am hoping he is a Crow equivalent.

Think he’ll be great; time will tell.

1967

Jon Matlack

LHP

4

A

Great pitcher for a lousy hitting team

1980

Darryl Strawberry

OF

1

A

Should have been an A++

1978

Hubie Brooks

SS

3

A

Fine, fine hitter

2002

Scott Kazmir

LHP

15

A-

108 game winner; none with the Mets.

1990

Jeromy Burnitz

OF

17

A-

315 HR, 981 RBIs for #17? Yes.

1973

Lee Mazzilli

OF

14

A-

Lee had a very good, long career

2011

Brandon Nimmo

RF

13

A-

A surprisingly good pick

1985

Gregg Jefferies

SS

20

A-

Considered an A, but his defense not good.

1992

Preston Wilson

SS-OF

9

A-

Very solid career: 141 and 121 RBI seasons.

2017

David Peterson

LHP

20

B+

So far so good for an overall # 20

1977

Wally Backman

SS

16

B+

Great against righties, tough, no power

2019

Brett Baty

3B

12

B

His recent hitting in AA gives hope.

2010

Matt Harvey

RHP

7

B

Great pick – until he got hurt. 2.5 fine years.

2014

Michael Conforto

OF

10

B-

Did enough to squeeze him into a B-.

1994

Terrence Long

1B

20

C

Decent for a 20th overall pick. No NYM.

1998

Jason Tyner

CF

21

C

Powerless .275 utility hitter with speed.

2001

Aaron Heilman

RHP

18

C

Modest career, not a bad pick for # 18

1968

Tim Foli

SS

1

C

A solid, long career, but not #1 overall caliber

2013

Dominic Smith

1B

11

C-

Not yet as good as Milledge. .246/.308/.424.

2008

Ike Davis

1B

18

C-

A few promising stretches, but a failure.

2005

Michael Pelfrey

RHP

9

C-

Workhorse, but you want more out of # 9

1979

Tim Leary

RHP

2

C-

Injury prevented him from being more.

2008

Reese Havens

SS

22

C-

Could have been a fine player, but injuries.

2003

Lastings Milledge

OF

12

C-

Should have been better. .269/.338/.395.

1987

Chris Donnels

3B

24

D+

910 career PAs, .233. Hit .195 with NYM.

2016

Justin Dunn

RHP

19

D+

Hurt.  So far, 5-4, 3.94 ERA. NO NYM.

1983

Eddie Williams

3B

4

D

Career .252 in 1,281 PAs, none with NYM.

1980

John Gibbons

C

24

D

50 career Abs, .220

2016

Anthony Kay

LHP

31

D

Fizzled – in minors currently.

2004

Philip Humber

RHP

3

D

Perfect game, bum arm, lousy.

2000

Billy Traber

LHP

16

D-

12-14, 5.65.  No NYM.

1983

Stan Jefferson

OF

20

D-

Career .216 in 920 PAs, 27 with NYM.

1994

Paul Wilson

RHP

1

D-

Injured pitcher.  40-48, 4.86 for a #1 overall.

1971

Rich Puig

2B

14

F

Rich Who?  11 career PAs, and he walked 1X.

1989

Alan Zinter

C

24

F

.167 in 84 career PAs, none with NYM.

1975

Butch Benton

C

6

F

Butch who? .162 in 89 career Abs

1972

Richard Bengston

C

13

F

Richard who?

1966

Steve Chilcott

C

1

F

Injured catcher

1997

Geoff Goetz

LHP

6

F

Minor league pitcher who did not pitch much.

1965

Les Rohr

LHP

2

F

Injured pitcher

1996

Robert Stratton

OF

13

F

Career minor leaguer.

1991

Alfred Shirley

OF

18

F

Never draft a guy named Alfred, OK, Shirley?

1986

Lee May

OF

21

F

Wrong Lee May.

1984

Shawn Abner

OF

1

F

Abner Doubleday did not like that pick.

1981

Terry Blocker

OF

4

F

Great name for a FB player; lousy BB player

1980

Billy Beane

OF

23

F

Good GM

1992

Christopher Roberts

OF-LH

18

F

Never mde it out of the minors.

1976

Tom Thurberg

OF-RH

13

F

Tom who? Never made it out of the minors.

1993

Kirk Presley

RHP

8

F

Terrible pick, uh huh, uh huh.

1988

Dave Proctor

RHP

21

F

Proctor was a Gamble – that failed.

1974

Cliff Speck

RHP

17

F

Cliff who? 2-1, 4.13, 28 innings with Atl.

1969

Randy Sterling

RHP

4

F

Randy who?

2012

Gavin Cecchini

SS

12

F

Bust.

1995

Ryan Jaroncyk

SS

18

F

Lousy minor leaguer. Lousy pick.

1970

George Ambrow

SS

23

F

George who?

2018

Jarred Kelenic

OF

6

Inc.

Jury is out. So far, not so good. Got us Edwin.

2021

Kumar

RHP

10

Inc.

Re-drafted in 2022 by Texas.

 And now, by year:

SEASON

PLAYER

POS

PICK

GRADE

 

2022

Parada

C

11

A+

I’ll give him an A+ and let him earn it.

2022

2021

Jett Williams

Kumar

IF

RHP

14

10

A

Inc.

I am hoping he is a Crow equivalent.

Re-drafted in 2022 by Texas.

2020

Crow

CF

19

A

Think he’ll be great; time will tell.

2019

Brett Baty

3B

12

B

His recent hitting in AA gives hope.

2018

Jarred Kelenic

OF

6

Inc.

Jury is out. So far, not so good. Got us Edwin.

2017

David Peterson

LHP

20

B+

So far so good for an overall # 20

2016

Anthony Kay

LHP

31

D

Fizzled – in minors currently.

2016

Justin Dunn

RHP

19

D+

Hurt.  So far, 5-4, 3.94 ERA.

2014

Michael Conforto

OF

10

B-

Did enough to squeeze him into a B-.

2013

Dominic Smith

1B

11

C-

Not yet as good as Milledge. .246/.308/.424.

2012

Gavin Cecchini

SS

12

F

Bust.

2011

Brandon Nimmo

RF

13

A-

A surprisingly good pick

2010

Matt Harvey

RHP

7

B

Great pick – until he got hurt. 2.5 fine years.

2008

Reese Havens

SS

22

C-

Could have been a fine player, but injuries.

2008

Ike Davis

1B

18

C-

A few promising stretches, but a failure.

2005

Michael Pelfrey

RHP

9

C-

Workhorse, but you want more out of # 9

2004

Philip Humber

RHP

3

D

Perfect game, bum arm, lousy.

2003

Lastings Milledge

OF

12

D+

Should have been better. .269/.338/.395.

2002

Scott Kazmir

LHP

15

A-

108 game winner; none with the Mets.

2001

Aaron Heilman

RHP

18

C

Modest career, not a bad pick for # 18

2000

Billy Traber

LHP

16

D-

12-14, 5.65.  No NYM.

1998

Jason Tyner

CF

21

C

Powerless .275 utility hitter with speed.

1997

Geoff Goetz

LHP

6

F

Minor league pitcher who did not pitch much.

1996

Robert Stratton

OF

13

F

Career minor leaguer.

1995

Ryan Jaroncyk

SS

18

F

Lousy minor leaguer. Lousy pick.

1994

Terrence Long

1B

20

C

Decent for a 20th overall pick. No NYM.

1994

Paul Wilson

RHP

1

D-

Injured pitcher.  40-48, 4.86 for a #1 overall.

1993

Kirk Presley

RHP

8

F

Terrible pick, uh huh, uh huh.

1992

Christopher Roberts

OF-LH

18

F

Never mde it out of the minors.

1992

Preston Wilson

SS-OF

9

A-

Very solid career: 141 and 121 RBI seasons.

1991

Alfred Shirley

OF

18

F

Never draft a guy named Alfred, OK, Shirley?

1990

Jeromy Burnitz

OF

17

A-

315 HR, 981 RBIs for #17? Yes.

1989

Alan Zinter

C

24

F

.167 in 84 career PAs, none with NYM.

1988

Dave Proctor

RHP

21

F

Proctor was a Gamble – that failed.

1987

Chris Donnels

3B

24

D+

910 career PAs, .233. Hit .195 with NYM.

1986

Lee May

OF

21

F

Wrong Lee May.

1985

Gregg Jefferies

SS

20

A-

Considered an A, but his defense not good.

1984

Shawn Abner

OF

1

F

Abner Doubleday did not like that pick.

1983

Stan Jefferson

OF

20

D-

Career .216 in 920 PAs, 27 with NYM.

1983

Eddie Williams

3B

4

D

Career .252 in 1,281 PAs, none with NYM.

1982

Dwight Gooden

RHP

5

A++

Should have been a HOF

1981

Terry Blocker

OF

4

F

Great name for a FB player; lousy BB player

1980

John Gibbons

C

24

D

50 career Abs, .220

1980

Billy Beane

OF

23

F

Good GM

1980

Darryl Strawberry

OF

1

A

Should have been an A++

1979

Tim Leary

RHP

2

C-

Injury prevented him from being more.

1978

Hubie Brooks

SS

3

A

Fine, fine hitter

1977

Wally Backman

SS

16

B+

Great against righties, tough, no power

1976

Tom Thurberg

OF-RH

13

F

Tom who? Never made it out of the minors.

1975

Butch Benton

C

6

F

Butch who? .162 in 89 career Abs

1974

Cliff Speck

RHP

17

F

Cliff who? 2-1, 4.13, 28 innings with Atl.

1973

Lee Mazzilli

OF

14

A-

Lee had a very good, long career

1972

Richard Bengston

C

13

F

Richard who?

1971

Rich Puig

2B

14

F

Rich Who?  11 career PAs, and he walked 1X.

1970

George Ambrow

SS

23

F

George who?

1969

Randy Sterling

RHP

4

F

Randy who?

1968

Tim Foli

SS

1

C

A solid, long career, but not #1 overall caliber

1967

Jon Matlack

LHP

4

A

Great pitcher for a lousy hitting team

1966

Steve Chilcott

C

1

F

Injured catcher

1965

Les Rohr

LHP

2

F

Injured pitcher


Vogelbach grand slam?  Lots of new recruits to the Vogelbach Fan Club, for sure.  

Mychal Givens?  Destroys his nice season ERA in his horrible Mets debut.  Bassitt?  Great.  Nimmo?  Suddenly red hot.  McNeil ditto.

Bring on the Braves.  Let's win 4 of 5.

Alvarez?  Hit his 4th HR.  "Hit" isn't the right word.  

It was a tape measure job, that apparently completely cleared the stadium:

https://www.milb.com/video/alvarez-crushes-4th-triple-a-hr?t=playerid-682626

After his 2 for 24, he's up to .200 and his OPS is already up to .822.  He's ready.

15 comments:

Mack Ade said...

This is an excellent post. Lots of work here. Hope it's appreciated.

The Mets used to consistently suck at doing this but they have gotten better in the past 10 years.

Mark my word. Parada will be one of the great ones.

Tom Brennan said...

Thanks Mack. Parada great AND Alvarez great? That is NOT Mets-like. Alvarez bomb was a titanic one - from what I can see, there is a lot to clear to get a ball out of the stadium there - and it appears he did. Power is right there with Alonso.

Baty is looking like a very good first rounder lately.

While I would say Judge had some question marks when drafted, it figures the Mets would grab Gavin Cecchini + in picking Dom Smith. He has had some moments, but he is a bust. Judge is supreme.

It is starting to look like the Mets are better than the Yankees. Cole got rocked in a second straight start.

Paul Articulates said...

Lots of good work here. Draft picks always come with a lot of uncertainty about how they will do when they face more talented opponents. This list really shows that some of them excelled while others failed.

TexasGusCC said...

Professor Tom, I think you need to grade via a curve. For example, A- for Brandon Nimmo? Oh man, what are you expecting on draft day? And punishing the drafting for injuries? You cannot forecast those. Harvey was an A, easily. Paul Wilson was a B+, at least. Dom has been a B. The ultimate F is Chilcott, not sure what they were thinking.

Very entertaining piece!

BTW, Simon Juan hit a HR! And is up to .221! Yippee!

Can anyone find out why Fanas hasn’t played in forever and has been stuck at 21 games in the stats?

bill metsiac said...

I always cringe when I see the name Steve Chilcott, usually followed by how he failed and was drafted ahead of others who became stars.
But Chilcott was derailed very early in his career in the lower minors by a shoulder i jury he never recovered from.

I understand giving the label to those who play, struggle, and disappear. But declaring a pick a failure through no fault of his own has always seemed harsh to me.

D J said...

Tom,
If I remember correctly Alan Zinter was a highly rated catcher when drafted by the Mets. He was moved to first base where he continued to struggle. He was traded for Rico Brogna who did well for the Mets. So I guess Zinter's value was not in his time with the Mets, but rather his part in a trade for a player who was successful.

RDS900 said...

Only a "B" for Baty? Should be an "A".

Tom Brennan said...

Brogna was a goodie. Chilcott selection changed the course of franchise history. Seaver, Koosman, Ryan, and Reggie? Wow.

Tom Brennan said...

I saw Ziegler finally pitched. Did not get out of the first inning - wild/ 2 outs, 3 walks. Well, it's been a while since he pitched.

Joel Diaz followed up with 6 innings of 1 hit shutout ball, 6 Ks. Very nice.

Gary Seagren said...

I will always believe knowing M.Donald that race was a factor in the decision. Chilcott was white and Reggie was an outspoken Black man in very volatile time. I still remember Seaver's quote from long ago in regards to Grant when he described him as "The Plantation owner" which pretty much says it all.

Tom Brennan said...

Gus, Simon Juan is like a 1st rounder. I'll just say his grade in "incomplete."

Yeah I weighted a little towards reality of the unforeseeable injury. No one like Harvey - he was Max without the durability.

Ray, i got Baty at a B when I drafted this a few weeks ago - I kept bumping the article back - he's above B now. If he can keep his Ks lower, he is entering "A" territory.

Tom Brennan said...

Gary, I won't be visiting Grant's Tomb.

Jon Messinger said...

Bill: in life, you do all the research etc that you can, and make a decision. even if your thought process was right, but things go wrong, you need to grade accordingly. you do a lot of 'wrongs' over the years, you get results like the Mets frequently do. it's good to see that the last 7 picks in a row have gotten high grades, hopefully we keep the drafting team together and the team keeps getting better. Tom: I agree that Reggie was the obvious choice, and Gary that Donald M's prejudice pushed them to Steve Chilcott, but the other draft pick they missed out on because of drafting Chilcott was passing on Johnny Bench the next year; because they had Steve, they didn't need Johnny! can you imagine Seaver, Koosman, Ryan, Reggie Jackson and Johnny Bench! the Big Blue Machine!!

Remember1969 said...

I am not sure, but I think Alan Zinter is the answer to the trivia question "who is the first round draft pick to make his major league debut at the oldest age?"

Remember1969 said...

Zinter was 34 years 30 days old when he debuted with the Astros a full 13 years after being the Mets 1989 first round pick