11/14/25

Reese Kaplan -- Sometimes Fans Pick the Wrong Scapegoat


It’s funny when you talk to fellow Mets fans to see how the tide rises and falls on various players with the majority of people opting to follow whatever the majority have to say.  Just as many are convinced that Brett Baty is the second coming of Brooks Robinson who will anchor 3rd base with his bat and glove, just as many are willing to push Kodai Senga out the door for a bag of balls.

Really?

Yes, it’s very clear that he has had issues staying healthy and with his arm motion he needs pretty much everything to be clicking properly for him to operate at the highest level.  Last season was a tale of two Sengas with his first several starts resembling the ace-level stuff he’s shown in the past and later in the year he was hurt and then demoted to Syracuse.  While the Mets were struggling to make up the one game deficit to make it into October baseball the powers that be felt they were better off with the nearly 5.00 ERA of Brandon Sproat and the over 7.00 ERA of Jonah Tong rather than taking a chance on Kodai Senga.

Now it’s highly understandable that the club has issues with the starting rotation (and the bullpen and the infield and center field and DH).  Given the limited history Senga has had in the majors it’s very easy to get out the broom and sweep him out the door as if he is the root of the problem.  But is he?

For his major league career in the USA he has made 52 starts which is about a year and a half of regular duty.  For those many opportunities he has a 20-13 record which looks pretty good.  His career ERA is 3.00.  He’s struck out 320 batters in less than 286 innings.  Ummm...those numbers are pretty impressive.

Now go take a look at the bevy of starting pitchers available in free agency or via trade rumors and compare them to what Senga has done.  Whether you’re considering folks on the auction block like Dylan Cease, Framber Valdez, Ranger Suarez, Michael King, Shota Imanaga, Zac Gallen or even 43 year old Hall of Famer to be Justin Verlander and they are not pitching at that level.

Then there are the trade options like Milwaukee’s Freddy Peralta, Paul Skenes or Tarik Skubal and evaluate what you’re going to have to sacrifice to make a one-year deal happen with no guarantee you won’t lose that newly acquired pitcher in free agency in 2027.  No one is suggesting Senga is better than Skenes or Skubal, but he has shown more than Peralta. 

Let’s also take a look at money.  Senga is in the midst of a contract with health clauses in it that could keep him in New York for 2026, 2027 and 2028 at a rate of $15 million per year.  Do you want to know who makes more than that?  Try Frankie Montas and Sean Manaea.  Now think again about the value you’re getting from Senga.

One major and somewhat surprising change made when the season ended was the termination of coaching contracts for almost everyone including pitching guru Jeremy Hefner.  Now it is understandable that someone needs to be held accountable for the horrific pitching the team experienced in 2025, but will a new coach have a better handle on how to keep Senga healthy and pitching to that All Star type of level?  No one knows, but it certainly seems premature to peddle Senga away off a bad year when the team right now only has Nolan McLean, Sean Manaea, David Peterson and Clay Holmes in the starting rotation.  Of that group you place great faith in McLean, moderate faith in Holmes, and then no one knows what to expect from Manaea and Peterson.  Compared to this group it would surely seem trading away Senga is not wise unless he leads to addressing another major need.

20 comments:

Steve said...

I am of the camp in the trading of Senga. As you noted, he can be a top quality pitcher. I do have the concerns of his injury history and the possibility of that additional days rest. "...trading away Senga is not wise unless he leads to addressing another major need". What I believe is 1. He can be a major piece in addressing that need, 2. Manaea is not as tradeable, 3. Manaea will be more like 2024 than 2025 providing innings, and, 4. There will be several pitchers in AAA pushing the gates down to be promoted.

Reese Kaplan said...

Even with as little regard as Mets fans (and the Mets organization itself, apparently) has for Senga, the numbers are stellar for his limited MLB career. His salary is low and he should command a significant return if he is indeed dealt.

Mack Ade said...

I change hourly

This hour:

No trade tag for McLean and Benge

Trade for either Skenes or Skubal

Package would be:
Suero or Lambert
Tong or Sproat
. Ewing or Mirabito
Rookie level SP

No other trades

Sign 1yr CF

Go after Bellinger

Resign Diaz

Tom Brennan said...

Agree.

Tom Brennan said...

True.

Tom Brennan said...

A real plan. My brother watch Skubal more than I did. His reaction? “Beast. Get him. Prospects traded? So what. Do it. BEAST.”

Steve said...

Totally agree on Benge and McLean

Trade for Skenes this year / sign Skubal next year. 2027 = Skenes, Skubal, McLean, two of the many others coming up.

Either sign Diaz or the closer just released by Tampa whose name is escaping me now.

Signing Bellinger - .302 / 365 / 544 or .241 / 301 / 414
home versus away splits. Stats are inflated in Yankee stadium which will not carry over to Citi. (Unless you move ... Not going there Tom). Plus adding a lefty to Soto, Nimmo, McNeil, Baty and add Benge (Lindor better lefty than righty). Six lefties?

Mack Ade said...

Steve

Fine. Fook Bellinger.

Ho find me a righty 1Bman (sic)

Steve said...

Other than Pete? Internally - Vientos. Other than that, poor selections to be had. Can you sign someone and move him to first? Who? Bichette?

Better question - find me a righty thumper that can fit onto this team?

JoeP said...

Yandy Diaz...poor fielder
Vientos...poor fielder
Christian Walker...I'll take your shit for our shit {maybe Manaea}

TexasGusCC said...

Christian Walker is not what he was, ans he was healthy as far as we know. Manaea wasn’t and Senga wasn’t. Everyone skewers Alonso for his high throw that Senga stretched for and got hurt, but bad throws happen in baseball. Senga just wasn’t prepared correctly. I still think he has value, but he is the most high maintenance of all the Mets starters, and if you had to get rid of one, it would be Peterson first and Senga second.

RVH said...

I think they should hold Senga - more upside than downside. If he is right, he is a great asset. If he is going well & they can flip him for more, that’s ok too. I’d rather buy down Manaea & move him if possible. Of course if Senga is part of a package for something better then trade him now.

JoeP said...

Gus, I agree on Walker, that's why I said shit for shit.

I also agree on Alonso. I know he's awkward around 1B, but I can live with that. He's still as good as anyone scooping balls out of the dirt.

Again, I agree about that throw to Senga....it wasn't that bad. I still like Senga as a pitcher but damn he's the most unathletic skinny guy I ever saw. He gets hurt by a strong fart.

TexasGusCC said...

I agree with you, but how does it look to trade Manaea after giving him three years and he got hurt and came in out of shape with elbow chips? I’d rather hold them
All and trade Peterson who only had one year left of control.

TexasGusCC said...

Alonso should have learned how to toss underhand many years ago. I don’t know what his story is. If you sign him and he isn’t at first base, he won’t be a happy player. I don’t know about him.

As for Senga, two years in a row he got hurt and two years in a row he did his own rehab outside of Mets supervision. That’s not how MLB works. They pay you alot of money but you need to respect that. Senga is a tough call for me, but I agree he has huge upside and I don’t just throw that away.

JoeP said...

Don't necessarily agree on Manaea. Didn't he NOT get the bone chips repaired?

Also, to me Manaea's strong second half was the aberration. Don't you remember he was actually dropped from the SF Giants rotation. He scares me.

Paul Articulates said...

This was a very well written and thought out piece, Reese. You have objectively captured the value Senga brings to the team in the long term. Injuries happen, and with proper depth a team can work around them. The one thing that I think hurts the team most is Senga's inability to go deep into ballgames. The stress on the bullpen arms is an unquantifiable number that is not directly attributable to Senga but we all know that stress was one of the key factors in the Mets' collapse last year. A consistent 4-5 inning starter is not a role that the Mets should fill.

Tom Brennan said...

Gus, I’d have no problem with Senga rehabbing on his own - except his 2024 and 2025 rehabs were disasters. He was probably relying on acupuncture, which put acupressure on the Mets.

Tom Brennan said...

Keep Skubal away from LAD for the good of baseball.

Jules C said...

Good piece. I would not actively look to trade him. His problems last year were directly related to the injury. Whether it is fully healed or remains vulnerable is key issue. Add to that the fact that the current rotation is thin at best, his salary is relatively low; his upside high, his relative fragility high in recent past, but not over the course of his career. The argument on the other side is that he has been oft injured, and keeping him in the rotation requires another active starting pitcher because of rest between starts then that should be calculated into his overall cost. That additional cost should be added to the cost of his salary to determine what the Mets are actually paying him. On the other hand, other teams will have to incur that cost, so his price to value ratio drops which would affect what others should be willing to part with for him. His salary does not represent his total cost is an important factor to be weighed in any discussion, but it cuts both ways for the above reason