This will be part 9 in an 11 part series regarding the 2017
roster choices the Mets must make to continue their pursuit of a World
Championship. Today the question to
consider is starting pitching. Who
stays? Who goes? Who’s on the bubble?
Matt Harvey
Assuming he recovers successfully from the Thoracic Outlet
Syndrome issue that plagued him in 2016 and resulted in a very un-Harvey-like 4.68
ERA, he’ll be back on the mound once again to lead the staff. Those people who were clamoring perhaps to
trade him a year too soon rather than a year too late will have to wait. He needs to prove to Major League Baseball
that the Dark Knight of Gotham still has a few tricks to unmask. He’s not eligible to become a free agent
until 2019, so there’s still time to wring performance out of him at bargain
prices for another full year (or two).
Jacob de Grom
Whether it is merely exhaustion or an injury that put a
crimp in the hirsute one’s season, the fact remains that he’s actually been a
better pitcher than Matt Harvey since making it to the majors. His 30-22 with a 2.74 ERA bests Harvey’s
nearly .500 record of 29-28 and 2.94 ERA.
He’s not slated to become a free agent until 2021. If there’s nothing wrong with his arm or
shoulder then he’s certainly priority number one for the long term deal to lead
the rotation.
Noah Syndergaard
Following close on de Grom’s heels, however, is his blond
counterpart, Noah “Thor” Syndergaard.
There are times during this season that he’s looked magical on the
mound. Overall the numbers are spectacular. On a team that hovered around .500 for much
of the year, he’s 13-8 with a sparkling 2.48 ERA. He’s also fanned 195 in just 167
innings. Let’s hope his elbow holds up
and we can pencil him into the rotation at least through his 2022 free agency.
Steven Matz
This poor guy can’t catch a break with his health, but we’ve
seen what he’s capable of doing when he’s physically capable of playing. Even this year with a few physical issues
plaguing him, he still managed to post a winning record with a respectable 3.40
ERA and roughly 1 K per IP. Let’s hope he’s
back to pitching form soon. He’s here
for next season as well due to health concerns making him difficult for any
other team to acquire in trade.
Zack Wheeler
The great wildcard in the pitching mix is Zack Wheeler who
suffered a few setbacks on his return to the mound. While the potential is there, no one knows if
he’s the next stud starter or more of a Mark Fidrych whose career ended almost
as soon as it began with a multitude of injuries. While he was originally considered a worthy
risk in the prospective trade that fizzled to land Carlos Gomez, one would
think he’s got virtually no value until people see him pitch again.
Bartolo Colon
Big Bart has become something of a folk hero with his first
home run, his All Star appearance and his unflappable attitude. Oh yeah, the guy has turned in some pretty
good pitching, too – 13-7 with a 3.27 ERA.
With Zach Wheeler very much a question mark for next year and injuries
hanging over the heads of other Mets starters, it would behoove Sandy Alderson
to extend another year’s invitation to see him throw behind his back to nail
runners at 1st base. Even if
the rest of the rotation remains surprisingly healthy, Terry Collins used him
out of the pen in the 2015 World Series and there’s always room out there for
someone who consistently throws strikes.
Seth Lugo
His rags to riches story is certainly fun to watch and
couldn’t have possibly come at a better time.
However, if you go back and look at Lugo’s minor league track record it
was nothing spectacular. He is
demonstrating he’s much more comfortable as a starter than as a reliever and
for the most part he did a decent job keeping runners off base in the
minors. Consider him Plan B if they don’t
choose to retain Colon.
Robert Gsellman
Despite not succeeding at quite the same level as his late
season Las Vegas teammate Lugo, Robert Gsellman is actually the guy with a
better minor league record. His career
ERA prior to joining the Mets was a tidy 3.11 that included his 5.73 baptism by
fire in Las Vegas. He’s not a big
strikeout guy. Lugo has an edge in that
regard. However, there are successful
pitchers in the majors who don’t tire out people in the K corner, too. Besides,
wouldn’t it be cool to have the long haired trio pitching together regularly?
Logan Verrett
Please, just go away.
The fact he received starting assignments at all was baffling, to say
the least. His 6.00+ ERA in that role
suggests he is not major league pitching material, yet the manager kept
trotting him out that until the outfielders playing behind him were get neck
strain from watching balls rocket over their heads and out of the
ballpark. He’s the Eric Campbell of
pitching.
Sean Gilmartin
After his magnificent Rule V debut season with reverse platoon
splits (something the manager never quite understood) and a 2.67 ERA, he was
banished to Las Vegas for most of the year where his game pretty much fell
apart. He’s had an entire season of
major league success under his belt, so I’m willing to give him more benefit of
doubt than I am Verrett. However, his
role is possibly limited to long man, mop up duty and emergency starter.
Gabriel Ynoa
He is another pitcher, like Gsellman, who gets by on guile
more than any ferocious weapon in his pitching repertoire. His pitching numbers took a big hit in advanced metrics upon hitting Las Vegas (no surprise there) but unlike some of his Vegas teammates, he has not exhaled and pitched better at lower altitude. I’m curious to see how he might handle the
non-PCL environment with a few starts, but he may not get that chance given
what’s at stake.
Rafael Montero
Here’s the very definition of enigma. Look at his minor league track record up
through 2012 he posted a career minor league ERA around 2.50 and a WHIP under
1.000. Then he hit Las Vegas where most
pitchers crumble and he responded in 2013 with a 3.05 ERA and a higher but
still respectable 1.241 WHIP. In some
ways control is like base running speed.
It’s a weapon that should play at any level. He’d always been a starter so naturally the
manager decided he should be a reliever., eerily reminiscent of what Jerry Manuel did to Jenrry Mejia. Arm/shoulder/focus issues ensued and he became a lost cause for the
next two years. It got so bad this year
that he was demoted to AA where he seemed to rediscover his mojo. When the season ended there he was on a run
of 4-3, 2.20 with a 1.120 WHIP. He
looked like he was finally back. His
first start in a Mets uniform since returning was a brilliant 2-hit shutout
effort over 5 but he pitched in and out of trouble with six walks. Something is simply not clicking in his head
to lose control after exhibiting enviable control elsewhere in his career. He’ll have to find it somewhere else because
there’s nothing left for him in this organization. He’s useless in Las Vegas and has pitched
himself out of Queens. He’s a good
wildcard chip for some other team to acquire if they can figure out why he’s
come down with Steve Blass disease.
Jonathan Niese
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
My Prediction
If healthy, the first four are written in ink in the
rotation. Zack Wheeler may likely be on
the extended spring training circuit to make absolutely sure he’s ready to
return to starting. Consequently I think
Colon will be retained as that 5th starter and/or bullpen arm with
Lugo getting the first nod. Gsellman has
had relatively little time in AAA compared to Lugo and not having finished as
strongly he’s probably slated to be the Las Vegas ace. Personally I'd rather see them sell high on Lugo and keep Gsellman in the wings after Bart until Wheeler is ready.
9 comments:
Welcome back…
Wheeler better be ready Day 1 - it will be 25 months for him. no extended spring training for him.
Aren't the odds of a full recovery from Thoracic surgery to former excellence for Harvey iffy?
Montero, Ynoa, Verrett, and Gilmartin allowed a ghastly 100 runs in 150 innings - unacceptable - that is no way to win a division. We need better options. none of them impress me anymore…Verrett never did.
Colon - hopefully he has another year of magic in his ancient arm.
Oh, and Gsellman struck out 42 in 45 innings. I guess he was learning to throw all pitches in minors (wise) rather than gunning for strikeouts at the expense of learning how to pitch. He is in my 2017 rotation for sure.
Does anyone else think that as stupid as it is to have your AAA team in las Vegas (really wish i was on the east coast) that maybe it is actually good for the pitchers?
The hitters have it easy and pitchers have it harder, so all the pitchers get hit. They have to work around the fact that they are going to get hit. for guys with great stuff it might be the first time and they want out as quickly as possible.
there nothing rational in this theory but maybe?
Thinking about a 6-DAY (note, NOT 6-game) rotation for the first 2 months of 17.
Anybody else?
Six day rotation? I can see that.
Robb, pitching in Vegas eliminates the major league adjustment period. You're exactly right. Pitchers have to learn in VERY adverse circumstances in Vegas,
den Dekker hit (roughly) .335 in AAA in 2014 but around .230 in International League AAA in 2015 and 2016 for the Nats. The hitters' numbers are very inflated in Vegas.
Hey Thomas,
I have a man crush with Yansiel Puig. I can't help but to think that a different team is all he needs. Do you see it as a wise trade for the Mets since the Dodgers may not be asking for much in return?
Lugo for Puig?
I'd do Puig for Lugo if it would help keep Cespedes. They could make a fine pair. But it might leave them short of starter depth. No Jon Niese, please.
I'd do Puig for Lugo if it would help keep Cespedes. They could make a fine pair. But it might leave them short of starter depth. No Jon Niese, please.
I'm convinced a 6 man rotation is the way to go if you want to have a chance to have all your starters healthy when you need them most. If you continue with a 5 man rotation you'll have 25% of your rotation out during the year and more than that for the playoffs. The Mets have the depth to throw out an outstanding 6 man rotation. The expectation is that they go deeper, with the extra days rest, because the ball pen would be reduce by 1. Hopefully MLB will see that a 6 man rotation would cost less than paying 25% of your pitchers while they are recovering from TJ surgery and expand the rosters to 26 or 27 men.
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