11/4/24

Reese Kaplan -- Part 2 of Why Not Signing Soto Could Be Good




Sometimes timing is everything.  I wrote and scheduled my Saturday article on Thursday regarding the cost of signing Juan Soto with the inclination that it may not be the best overall investment.  I didn’t expect many would agree with me among the readers here and the media. 


Lo and behold that on your Friday (my Saturday here in Malaysia) Mets former pitcher and broadcaster extraordinaire Ron Darling came out to say pretty much the exact same thing.  While he wasn’t disputing Soto’s level of talent nor even the overall expenditure commitment, he did question what would happen if signing Soto meant passing on Pete Alonso and missing out on some of the cream of the crop in the starting pitching ranks because of how much you would have to allocate to one guy. 

The issue for me here is kind of like how the Rangers spent big to get the best of the best in Jacob deGrom and then only enjoyed him over an aggregate of 9 games spread over his first two seasons there due to injury.  Injuries can happen at any age and with varying degrees of severity.  Take the Mets’ own Ronny Mauricio who had a doctor operate on his torn ACL which cost him most of the 2024 season until scar tissue that formed needed to be addressed which then cost him the rest.  He’s in his early 20s, younger even than Soto.

What Darling said in his question about Soto called to mind a similar argument I used to make with my partner when I played Fantasy Baseball.  If you spend $600 million on one guy does that mean you spend $6 each on the rest filling out your roster?  His more succinct way of putting it was wouldn’t the team benefit more from a pair of $300 million contracts than they would from a single one costing twice as much?  

I used to say I’d rather field a team of 20 HR and 80 RBI hitters at a moderate cost than one or two stars and also-rans for the rest because you ran out of funding.  Then if you lost one of those 20/80 hitters due to slump or injury, well, it’s not really all that hard to find a replacement.


Like I said, there was another prominent voice in the anti-Soto camp.  This time around it was none other than Jim Bowden who said he does foresee the Mets spending big — perhaps as much as $500 million this offseason, but not on Soto.  Instead he feels it would be better allocated for the return of Pete Alonso as well as starting stud pitchers Corbin Burnes and Max Fried. 



Think about that approach for a moment.  One one hand you lose out on Alonso and fail to address the widely vacant starting rotation but add Juan Soto.  On the other hand you bring back the same number of home runs and nearly as many RBIs with Alonso but at the expense of batting average, then add not one but two Cy Young caliber starting pitchers and you wind up saving $100 million.  Ummm...all of a sudden that allocation of Steve Cohen’s money no longer resembles the actions of a one-trick pony.


I was going to trot off in this direction with a variety of options to consider other than just Soto, but this start of the two ace pitchers and Alonso seems like a very good one.  It is also consistent with the Darling suggestion that two (or in this case three) big contracts for three talents is a better approach than putting it all one just a single player. 

Not getting Soto would feel very historically Mets from the Wilpon era.  You could already surmise what the “Well, we tried” press conference would be like when Soto stays in the Bronx, heads to Chavez Ravine or elsewhere.  However, adjust the script a bit to be not one but three celebrations when the Mets officially welcome three All Star level players to their roster instead of just one. 

All I’m really saying here is to keep an open mind.  Multiple new players for multiple new roles is not a crazy idea if the overall result strengthens the team.  Look at who else is out there in the free agent marketplace and play with your spreadsheet.  

It doesn’t have to be these three names or it could be four at a high but not quite as high level.  It simply means that alternatives to Soto shouldn’t only take place if Soto is not a Met.  They should be intelligently considered now in advance of whatever might happen.  

9 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

That is theism.Ken Griffey Jr was similar, and once he got hurt around age 30, dropped a few notches over the rest of his career. But..I will air another side of the argument tomorrow.

Steve said...

Many years ago, weren't we told not to "put all eggs in one basket". Does that apply here as well? I think I have been saying I agree here with Reese and Darling. Granted Soto is a generational talent but I would prefer multiple baskets. If one egg cracks, then the basket is ruined. If it is one basket ...., if it is multiple baskets.

And I do not want to justify signings by saying the Mets have the richest owner in baseball, so money is no problem

JoeP said...

Agreed...Look no further than Mike Trout. Would have taken him in a heartbeat over Soto. Higher average, better fielder. He is a shell of his former self the last few years.

Soto would be the topper on the cake if you have a stacked team. We have at least 8+ positions we need to have filled. Spend wisely this year and continue to develop the organization. We are are heading in the right direction.

Mack Ade said...

Okay guys

You have earned my vote

Pass on Soto

Sign Alonso, 2 starters, and 2 relievers

Reese Kaplan said...

Alonso for multiple years at say $28 million per year plus other supplemental pieces for starting pitching and relieving might actually prove to be a better overall strategy.

That Adam Smith said...

I’ve said it before. Don’t tie the franchise’s future maneuverability to one guy. The Trout comparison is apt, and I would argue that Trout was a better, more well rounded player than Soto, and that turned out to be a mistake. Yes, Trout was older, but young enough when he started breaking down that the comparison/analogy is apt. Build a more complete team and leave room to improve - not just for this season, but every year going forward. Cohen may have endless money, but he’s not a masochist, and losing draft position and IFA money is a real issue. The topper was Soto standing among his teammates ten minutes after losing the WS and talking about his own career and future. Have some class and at least pretend that you cared. Pass on Soto. Let someone else take that risk.

Rds 900. said...

Pass on Soto, Pass on Alonso and go younger.

TexasGusCC said...

I look at Soto and I see Miguel Cabrera. Similar numbers. I would like Soto on the Mets but on a deal the Mets can be happy about. Certainly Soto should be, but I would go 10/$450, and if he is disappointed, then you move on. That’s still an 7 WAR player that can’t be turned aside. As Tom noted last week, the Mets have $110MM to spend before the draft penalty. Spending big for pitchers is actually riskier than spending big for hitters, but there is room to add both. If the point is to add a 2.5 WAR player like Alonso or Soto, well Alonso is a good player but his comps (Chris Davis, Glenn Davis, Ryan Howard, Cecil Fielder) speak for themselves.

Zozo said...

Hi all
I would stay away from Alonso and would love Soto but like Reese said I would prefer more roster spots filled at high end. So I would try and sign

Willy Adames for 3rd base (speed, power and hopefully good defense at a new position).
Christian Walker for 1st base ( just won a gold glove and a very consistent hitter) something you don’t get from Alonso.

Have Vientos DH and back up the corners

Sign one of Corbin Burnes, Max Fried, Blake Snell
Bring back Manaea

Trade Jeff McNiel for Jordan Montgomery (get rid of McNiel and his 2 years of salary for a bigger salary for one year of Montgomery). I am hoping Montgomery returns back to form of 2022 and 2023.
So next year we may have a chance to refresh our salary cap with so many pre arbitration salaries on our ledger and Montgomery/Marte coming off the books.

List of our pre arb players for years to come

Alvarez
Vientos
Luis Angel Acuna
Brandon Sproat
Jett Williams
Drew Gilbert
Ryan Clifford
Carson Benge
Ronny Mauricio
Jeremy Rodriguez
Blade Tidwell
Nolan McLean
Jonah Tong