Believe it or not, the Mets in 2024 finally found aggregate quality at the Designated Hitter position when combining what you received from the primary participants J.D. Martinez and Jesse Winker.
Don’t believe it? How about these numbers — 19 HRs, 82 RBIs and an unimpressive batting average of about .238. While that last number is not good, the 19 HRs and 82 RBIs is far better than what the club has received in the past.
Need a reminder? Well, in 2023 the club used primarily Daniel Vogelbach and someone named Mark Vientos (yes, that Mark Vientos) to combine for 22 HRs (good), 70 RBIs (not so good) and about a .222 batting average (worse than what the team got in 2024).
Before that in 2022 the team employed big Dan again along with Darin Ruf, Tyler Naquin and J.D. Davis to net at total of 14 HRs, 66 RBIs and an overall batting average of about .229. Ugh.
So looking back to 2024 it seemed that the Mets were not getting All Star production out of the DH slot, but 19 HRs and 82 RBIs is a damn output better than what they’d gotten in the two previous years when the DH finally made its way to the National League.
Going into 2025 no one initially knew what the Mets were planning to do with the DH position. Some advocated a reunion with J.D. Martinez who has put together a nearly Hall of Fame career and could be forgiven for a poor (by his standards) 2024 in the hope he would rebound to what he did in 2023 for the Dodgers.
Others thought that Mark Vientos would become a young DH or first baseman before the club brought back Pete Alonso. It could still happen if Brett Baty continued his hot hitting based upon his Port St. Lucie audition, but it’s not as likely to happen because...
In a much less expensive than J.D. Martinez transaction the Mets offered up lefty swinging Jesse Winker a return engagement for the sum of $7.5 million. Wait...isn’t J.D. Martinez still unemployed and coming off a poor year for which he was paid $10 million? Doesn’t that suggest his paycheck in 2025 is likely to be roughly the same?
Winker is an interesting player opposing teams love to hate. He plays with a reckless enthusiasm wearing his emotions of his sleeve proudly. That part is good if he’s on your side. What’s bad is that he’s never really made it as a full time player, excelling against right handed pitchers but struggling against lefties. He’s never had 500 ABs in a season, but once back in 2021 with the Reds he was an All Star when he provided 24 HRs, 71 RBIs while hitting .305.
So the thinking here was to have him be a DH against right handed pitchers which is likely 5 games per week and offloading the right handed swinging part of the DH equation to someone else like Starling Marte who lost his RF job to some scrub named Juan Soto.
During his career Marte has had some ups and downs facing southpaws, but in 2020 he surged forward with his batting average against lefties advanced to about .290. Given his baserunning speed and occasional power, it seemed like pairing him with a lefty swinging Winker could indeed be a solid aggregate option.
Of course, what you want out of the DH position is the first question you need to answer. I always cite Edgar Martinez of the Mariners as the role model for what you strive to obtain from someone whose only skill required is hitting. For his career, the now Hall of Famer averaged .312, 24 HRs and 99 RBIs. The Mets are not going to achieve that single season total except perhaps for the 24 HRs. They would have been able to throw 30-40 stolen bases to the total before Marte’s knee started acting up but that attribute was not a part of most slugger-only players’ games. Martinez averaged just 4 swipes per season.
The interesting approach taken by the front office is also an acknowledgment of Marte’s age and defensive decline. The 2025 Mets DH role is a one year thing with Winker on a single season contract and Marte on the last year of his Billy Eppler negotiated deal. What that means is that even if the combined Winker/Marte role worked solidly for an aggregate .270 batting average with 25 HRs, 75 RBIs and 25 SBs, you’d have to reinvent this role for 2026 and beyond.
Now a lot depends on what Brett Baty does in the major leagues this year and how Ronny Mauricio, Luisangel Acuna and Jett Williams perform in AAA. All you need is one of this quartet to thrive and then Mark Vientos perhaps can become a full time DH (unless he is asked to cross the diamond in a Pete Alonso vacancy or a missed contract offer to Vlad Guerrero, Jr.)
For now it would appear the potential for the 2025 DH is actually better than the already good but not great result of 2024. It’s also possible a last minute deal could be made sending Marte or Baty elsewhere, then things need to be reassessed completely.
9 comments:
In my opinion, the Jeff McNeil injury tosses the cookies a little here
The good news is both Nimmo and Marte look like they will be ready
Also, Siri has hit both lefties and righties
My guess the startingoutfield will be Nimmo, the 2 headed monster in center, and Marte will be RHH DH while Winker is LHH DH
Power will come from other positions
Baty and Acuna have a perfect early opportunity to get some ABs. For Baty, that might be some DH work. Produce or get off the pot.
Out pitching staff leaves a lot to be desired. Listen to Doc Gooden who stated Mets need an ace to be elite. 7 hits in 3 innings for Senga is not encouraging. I’m sure Holmes will be okay in the early going but I doubt he will hold up as the innings number will increase. We need more punch in the lineup to compensate for our pitching staff which is full of question marks. Soto is a given. Lindor usually takes a while to get going. Vientos hopefully won have a sophomore slump. Time to realize Vientos’s only asset is a strong arm which will have no value if he is eventually switched to first. His best position is DH. Let him be our Yordan Alavarez and flourish as a hitter without having him be booed at by the fans and criticized by the NY media for his fielding. Baty at third gives you better defense and hopefully he continues to develop as a hitter with 25 HR potential. Remember he was a top 30 mlb prospect and the best 3B prospect. Acuna and McNeil can be second baseman and utility until Mauricio is healthy. Time to see if Baty is the answer at third. At 25 he’s too young to give up on and has no trade value anyway. Gel shots for Nimmo means osteoarthritis of the knee which will limit his effectiveness and availability for the rest of his career, and that’s not excluding plantar fasciitis which will also recur. I see Cohen buying out his contract or Nimmo retiring early. Unfortunately we are stuck with pitchers and hitters over 32 who are declining in ability and availability. Time to see what the young guys can do. Everyone is ready to give up on Baty and yet Alvarez hasn’t hit since the first half of 2023 and framing well does not make him an elite catcher. The jury is still out on Stearns. Cohen wants us to emulate the Dodgers. To do that we need to get top of the rotation starters and have to get top 30 prospects like the Dodgers. Still a lot of work to be done
I agree with you that the rotation is a work in progress
Well said. Time to stop babying Senga. Baty will have to earn every at bat he gets. I really hope he's up to it.
Also, you have to pump the breaks on Baty to 3B. You do realize the Vientos (unbelievably) had the highest fielding percentage at 3B in the NL. I do realize his lack of range and Baty really is only average at best right now.
Good to hear someone back me up on Alverez though. Until he matures and gets better, I'm not counting on him at all.
It looks like after this year we will have several other options at DH and in the field. Add in a pitcher or 2 and we some sustainability.
The 2025 version of the Mets is a top 5 team in MLB. Have a good chance of facing the O's in the WS.
I think the Phillies are the only NL team to really take advantage of the DH position. This excludes the Dodgers using Ohtani last year because he had to DH to nurse the arm.
Ohtani is still a DH.
Soto .417/.462/1.000. Nuf said
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