2/18/22

Remember 1969: Mets trades in History: 1993

 

Mets Trades through the years:  Who won?


There isn’t much to say about 1993 other than it was not a stellar year in Metsland.      

November 1992 through October 1993

A trivia question to start the piece today: 

Which player involved in the 1993 trades below had the second most major league at-bats and hits? 

       

 (1)  New York Mets traded Wally Whitehurst, D.J. Dozier and Raul Casanova to the San Diego Padres for Tony Fernandez  (Oct 26, 1992)

 

(2)  New York Mets traded Pat Howell to the Minnesota Twins for Darren Reed  (Nov 18, 1992)


 (3)  New York Mets traded Roger Mason and Mike Freitas to the San Diego Padres for Mike Maddox  (Dec 17, 1992)


 (4)  New York Mets traded Tony Fernandez to the Toronto Blue Jays for Darrin Jackson  (Jun 11, 1993)


 (5)  New York Mets traded Wayne Housie to the Milwaukee Brewers for Josias Manzanillo  (Jun 12, 1993)


 (6)  New York Mets traded Frank Tanana to the New York Yankees for Kenny Greer  (Sep 17, 1993)


Notes:   Tony Fernandez was on the downside of his career, but not at the bottom when he got to New York, but he may have been the poster child of Tom's theory about playing for the Mets.   He lasted a few months, but went on to have a few decent years later. 

I didn't realize how close Frank Tanana was to Hall of Fame consideration.    He had a terrific career spanning 21 years and accumulating almost 500 decisions, winning just over half of them.   Unfortunately 22 of the last 24 of the decisions (only 7 wins, including his last one) came with the Mets.   He lost his two decisions with the Yankees before retiring. 

Answer to trivia question at the top:   Darrin Jackson (by a lot)

9 comments:

Gary Seagren said...

Here's a question to everyone: would you trade Alvarez, Baty, and Mauricio for Soto? Don't know if even that would get it done but we really need more to talk about in this crazy off season.

Gary Seagren said...

Hold the presses! A ship carrying 1100 Porsche and 189 Bentley luxury cars is burning at sea. DAM now I'm gonna have to wait much longer for my new ride. I'm sure alot of those were going to players owners and principals in the MLB labor dispute...will that hold up the negotiations even more oh no.

Paul Articulates said...

In 1992 the Mets had a 72-90 record, and then in 1993 they went a dismal 59-103. The trades depicted here show no sense of urgency to fix a failing team in a major market. Maybe they feared making more moves like the ones that brought Bobby Bonilla and Vince Coleman to the team after their productive days had passed. The '93 team was second-to-last in runs scored, squandering a pitching staff that still had guys like Gooden, Saberhagen, Fernandez, and Tanana on the team. What a tragedy.

Tom Brennan said...

The Mets back in those years were making player moves that were like buying ROKU stock within the last year at $490 and having it down close to $100 today. They no doubt got gun-shy.

Gary, no, I would not make that trade. Alvarez is not in it. Alvarez may become the catcher version of Soto.

A while back, I pulled out the depressing effect of Alvarez playing in Brooklyn by just multiplying his road numbers by two, since they were all normal hitter parks overall. His numbers doing that were huge. I still think superstars grow up fast, and that he could be a Met by after the All Star break. I think he is going to destroy AA and AAA pitching in the first half of 2022. Maybe his catching game isn't perfect but he is already far better than Wilson Ramos defensively. Catchers wear out quicker, so waste ZERO unnecessary games in the minors.

Baty, Mauricio and Ginn? That I would strongly consider.

Tom Brennan said...

Fernandez is another glaring example - hits .225 in partial year as a Met at age 31.

Then, 5 and 6 years later, in back to back seasons as a 36 and 37 year old, he averaged .325, 100 points higher, for those 2 years.

100 points!!!

Another check-off in the "why would I ever want to play for the Mets" box.

For long term success, that HAS to change. Players should come to Queens - and do better, not worse.

Unknown said...

While with the Mets, Tony Fernandez suffered from kidney stones. He was just recovering from them when the Mets traded him. Playing in pain affected his time with the Mets more than anything.

Sadly, it was kidney failure that caused his death at too young an age.

Bob W.

Remember1969 said...

I wondered whether he was completely healthy in the small sample size of playing time with the Mets

Tom Brennan said...

Bob, had forgotten that about Tony F - thanks

Bob W. said...

Glad to help, Tom. Although I agree with you point that an awful lot of good players tend to underperform for the Mets, I'll discount Tony Fernandez.