11/30/17
Hot Stove - 11-30-17
According to Jon Heyman, the Mets are discussing internally adding Eric Hosmer. He was the 3rd overall pick in the 2008 draft by Kansas City. Has played his entire career for the Royals (7 seasons) and will play 2018 as a 28-year old. Hit 25/104 in 2016 and 25/94 last season. Strictly a full time first baseman (603-AB, ,318-BA).
If you sign Hosmer to a multi-year contract, you have major trade chips in Dominic Smith and Peter Alonso.
Ex-Mets pitcher, Yusmeiro Petit, will sign with Oakland... 2-year, $10mil contract.
I always liked Petit and thought that the Mets gave up on him too early. Went 9-3, 2.91, in Binghamton in 2005. That being said, the trade to the Marlins (with Mike Jacobs, Grant Psomas) did bring OF Carlos Delgado which was a hugh addition. Good for Petit.
Ex-Mets OF Travis Taijeron has inked his minor league deal with the Dodgers.
Tom Brennan - TOMORROW IS...
Tom Brennan - TOMORROW IS...
"Tomorrow is..."...you finish the sentence.
Tomorrow is Friday, yeah, baby, the harbinger of the looming weekend for most who toil amongst the laboring class.
Tomorrow also starts December, the blessed season of Christmas, Hanukkah, even Kwaanza for the Kwaanza-ites out there, and office parties (no, not for you, Matt Lauer) and bonuses for some. At Macks Mets, the "bonus" that readers receive is Freedom of Mets speech. Nice, don't you think?
We may even get tax reform, giving us more shekels to buy 2018 baseball tickets and Dominic Smith jerseys if you wear XXL. (Kidding aside, he seems to be 100% focused on conditioning, weight loss, and winning the 1B job outright, based on what I read today). Corporate tax rate reduction should make stadiums more crowded with corporate fat cats, as businesses likely will spend more freely, I'd think.
But December also brings us great stuff like....
TRADES, DEALS, RULE 5 DRAFT, MORE STORIES ABOUT MATT HARVEY'S NEW AMOUR, AND THE LIKE.
In the wonderful world of the Mets, it is a month of player moves that often leave us disgruntled, or downright snarly. But even the...there is egg nog to help us make it through.
We also commemorate the horrific December surprise called Pearl Harbor....but maybe this off-season, this December, will bring Mets fans a few pleasant surprises.
It all depends on this....will the Wilpons again be the Grinch Who Stole Christmas, or the enlightened Ebenezer Scrooge?
December is a month where much occurs, so we'll soon all find out, Mets-wise, exactly what that entails.
And pass the egg nog, will you?
After all, Tomorrow is Only a Day Away.
11/29/2017 Winter League Results | No Hits for any Mets; Carrillo, Nunez, and Mora all go 0-fer
Arizona Fall League
- Completed on November 18th
(Recap can be found here.)
Mexican Pacific League
- Naranjeros de Hermosillo 1 - 3 Charros de Jalisco
- Mayos de Navojoa 3 - 4 Yaquis de Obregon
- Venados de Mazatlan 0 - 5 Tomateros de Culiacan
- Aguilas de Mexicali 6 - 2 Caneros de los Mochis
- C Xorge Carrillo: 0 for 4, K, 1 Runner Thrown Out
Venezuelan Winter League
- Caribes de Anzoategui 4 - 21 Cardenales de Lara
- Leones del Caracas 1 - 3 Bravos de Margarita
- Navegantes del Magallanes 0 - 8 Aguilas del Zulia
- Tigres de Aragua 6 - 1 Tiburones de la Guaira
- Tigres de Aragua 6 - 1 Tiburones de la Guaira
Dominican Winter League
- Leones del Escogido 5 - 7 Gigantes del Cibao
- Estrellas Orientales 2 - 9 Tigres del Licey
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
- Estrellas Orientales 2 - 9 Tigres del Licey
- SS Gustavo Nunez: 0 for 4
- PH John Mora: 0 for 1
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
Side Note: Regular Season will start January 8th, 2018.
Mack’s Apple’s – Regnault, Jannis, and Pobereyko: The Indy Kings
Good morning.
The Mets have had some
excellent success lately in finding talent that was wasting away in the
Independent Leagues of baseball.
Pitcher Kyle Regnault was never drafted when he came out of
the University of Rhode Island in 2011. He signed on with Worcester in the
CamAm League in 2012 (31-G, 3.80), followed by two years with Quebec in the
same league (2013: 3.82 – 2014: 4.47).
The Mets then signed him and he opened up in 2015 with St. Lucie, going 1.99 in
39-appearances.
Last season, he went
1.17 for Binghamton, followed with 34 appearances in Las Vegas (3.28).
Pitcher Mickey Jannis had more of the typical road to Indy
ball. He first started out as a draft pick (44th round, 2010, Tampa
Bay), played two seasons in the Rays system, and was then cut. He signed on
with the first of four independent teams (Lake Erie, Bridgeport, Southern
Maryland, and the Long Island Ducks. He shined for the Ducks in 2015 (16-G,
10-ST, 6-2, 1.18, 0.94). Jannis was plucked from the Ducks in the middle of
that season and began his Mets career that has so far ended with a 8-7, 3.60
stint for Binghamton last season.
And lastly, like
Regnault, Matt Pobereyko was not drafted. He
came out Kentucky Wesleyan in 2015 (12-G, 11-ST, 9-2, 1.84, 1.12, 12.76/K-9)
and played for Florence of the Frontier League and three Arizona minor league
teams in 2016. The Mets scooped him up 3.15 in 23 appearances for Columbia in
2017.
More importantly, he struck out 53 batters in only 34.1 innings pitched.
More importantly, he struck out 53 batters in only 34.1 innings pitched.
I then asked these
three guys the same question and received three different roads to the Mets.
Pobereyko tweeted back
pure honesty:
“Honestly, I’m not sure who it was that scouted and
signed me.”
Jannis was extremely
candid:
“Hi Mack. For all I know, (Director, Player Development) Ian Levin was the only one that contacted the Long
Island Ducks about me and the only one I talked to. I don’t know if they ever
had any scouts watching me throw.”
But Regnault’s return
tweet was hilarious.
“Hey Mack. (Ex-St. Lucie Pitching Coach) Phil Regan found me. Met at a golf course I work at in
Florida.”
There's no defined process of having a scout find you. The big time prospects are well known by all and the teams assign scouts to go check these players out. Many scouts I know have got the best information about top players in the field by talking to the coach of a particular player they originally went to scout.. Many a junior college or D-3 player came to a team's attention this way.
No one I knew before writing this was recruited on a golf course.
I don’t know what the
future will be for these three over achievers, but what I do know that most kids coming out of college without prospect credentials would not have hung in there
this long and hard. If you think the conditions and pay is bad in the lower affiliate
levels, try Indy ball in towns that that’s concession stands ‘feature’ brown
hot dogs and warm soda.
A tip of the Mack’s hat
to all three.
11/29/17
Hot Stove - 11-29-17
Ex-Met picher, Collin McHugh, may be out of the Houston 2018 rotation. Justin Verlander, Dallas Keuchel, Lance McCullers and Charlie Morton seem locked into four of the five rotation spots, which would leave one slot for either McHugh, Brad Peacock, Mike Fier, or Francis Martes.
Washington top prospect, OF Victor Robles, will begin 2018 at the AAA level.
Buster Olney say the Mets are considering bringing in 1B Adam Lind for the 2018 season.
I just don't believer that the Mets would give up on one of their top prospects (and someone 20+ teams would love to get their hands on), Dominic Smith. It's like saying that the New York Giants are going to bench quarterback Eli Manning.
Clay Ramsey - November Recap
This was a relatively quiet month for our New York Mets. However there are some things to discuss.
The Mets signed 2 minor league free agents in LHP Matt Purke and OF Zach Borenstein. Purke spent the 2017 season for Triple A Charlotte in the White Sox organization where he went 4-5 with a 3.84 ERA in 65.2 IP compiling 80 strikeouts. Borenstein, who spent the 2017 season for the Reno Aces, triple A affiliate of the Arizona Diamondbacks, hit .279 in 122 games slugging 24 home runs and 91 RBIs. Both are good hires to fill some much needed depth.
The Mets have not signed any major league free agents yet, but have been rumored for many, including Bryan Shaw, Adam Lind, Carlos Santana, and many others. Hopefully we can land more infield help which wore thin in the 2017 season.
The Mets protected 4 minor leaguers eligible for the upcoming Rule 5 draft, that being SS Luis Guillorme and RHPs Gerson Bautista, Tyler Bashlor, and Corey Oswalt. All have had success at Class A advanced level or higher.
November is generally a quiet month for baseball, but with the Winter Meetings upcoming in December, expect the Mets to ramp up the moves.
11/28/2017 Winter League Results | Rough Day Defensively for Carrillo and Rough Day Offensively for Nunez
Arizona Fall League
- Completed on November 18th
(Recap can be found here.)
Mexican Pacific League
- Naranjeros de Hermosillo 4 - 9 Charros de Jalisco
- Mayos de Navojoa 3 - 5 Yaquis de Obregon
- Venados de Mazatlan 6 - 5 Tomateros de Culiacan
- Aguilas de Mexicali 3 - 2 Caneros de los Mochis
- C Xorge Carrillo: 0 for 3, 2 K, SB Allowed, Error (4 |Throwing), Passed Ball(3)
Venezuelan Winter League
- Caribes de Anzoategui 2 - 3 Tigres de Aragua
- Leones del Caracas 6 - 1 Bravos de Margarita
- Navegantes del Magallanes 2 - 1 Aguilas del Zulia
Dominican Winter League
- Toros del Este 1 - 6 Leones del Escogido
- Gigantes del Cibao 2 - 3 Estrellas Orientales
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
- Gigantes del Cibao 2 - 3 Estrellas Orientales
- SS Gustavo Nunez: 0 for 5, 2 K
- RF John Mora: Defensive Replacement
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
Side Note: Regular Season will start January 8th, 2018.
Reese Kaplan -- Trades: A Cautionary Tale
With the winter meetings less than 2 weeks away, a great
many people are preaching the foibles of handing out free agent contracts to
people who often don’t measure up to the dollars paid for the duration of the
deal. It’s easy to cite any number of
deals which have led to a team’s regret, including Kenny Lofton, Pablo
Sandoval, and of course, the poster child for bad FA contracts, Jason Bay.
So the alternative is to trade players to another team in
order to fortify positions of need, dump salary, enrich the farm system or rid
themselves of a troublesome personality.
During the current regime there’s not much frame of reference for
success in this approach beyond the salary dump of R.A. Dickey early into Sandy
Alderson’s reign. Even if you are not a
Travis d’Arnaud fan and are ready to write off throw-in Wuilmer Becerra, the
fact remains they got the Blue Jays to pay up for Dickey’s Cy Young award and
in return they got perhaps a future Cy Young caliber pitcher in Noah
Syndergaard.
However, just as the trade route is sometimes flush with
silks and spices, other times it’s a rocky road that leads to franchises
sliding backwards. Towards that end, let’s
take a look at some of the checkered trading history of the NY Mets:
1B
At a time in the seventies when there was precious little to
watch at Shea Stadium, one must-see moment was every single AB of Dave
Kingman. The former pitcher turned
slugger was the ultimate all-or-nothing hitter (before it became trendy to put
that characteristic on your resume). He
was a 35+ capable home run hitter who was known for the majesty of his towering
shots as much as he was for his prodigious whiffs. The Mets decided at one point they were tired
of his act and sent him packing to San Diego for chronically injured future
manager Bobby Valentine and journeyman reliever Paul Seibert.
2B
Well, here you had quite a few contenders of players who the
Mets traded away who went onto fame and fortune elsewhere (not even including
the Irishman who they let walk away as a free agent). While you could make arguments for several
names, the one that jumps out among all others is Jeff Kent who never fit in
(much like Greg Jefferies). In return
for the borderline HOF caliber player they got a washed up Carlos Baerga. Ugh!
SS
While Kevin Elster had an outlier of a season for the
Rangers in which he smacked 24 homers and drove in 99, he departed as a free
agent and never before or after came anywhere close to that total, reminiscent
of the one-season wonder, Brady Anderson.
No, the one that got away in this case is long time Cardinal Jose
Oquendo. He was a flashy fielder who was
thought to have not enough offensive ability to last in the majors. He put together a 12 year career, retiring
young at 31. In return for him the Mets
received Angel Salazar and John Young. I’ll
wait while you run to baseballreference.com to figure out who they were.
3B
There were a few contenders here as well, but considering the
black hole this position has been prior to David Wright’s arrival, only one
really stood out. It is a little more complicated,
but the Mets traded Robin Ventura to the Yankees for David Justice. However, before playing a single inning for
the Mets they turned around and shipped him to Oakland for Mark Guthrie and Tyler
Yates. In his first year for the Yankees
Ventura delivered 27 HRs and 93 RBIs. The 36 year old Guthrie was actually quite
good in his single season for the Mets – 68 games and a 2.44 ERA in middle
relief – but Ventura’s bat was sorely missed.
LF
This one hurts twice.
I considered a great many players including the Kevin Mitchell for Kevin
McReynolds deal. I ruled that one out
despite Mitchell’s later MVP season in San Francisco because McReynolds was
solid if unappreciated while with the Mets.
However, the one that burned them the worst at this position was undoubtedly
when they chose to include a prospect in the deal to the San Diego Padres who
hit 17 HRs, drove in 83 and batted .283 in A ball. His name was Jason Bay. In exchange the Mets got luminaries Steve
Reed and Jason Middlebrook. Considering
Bay was a Rookie of the Year and a three-time All Star, I’d say he most
definitely qualifies as the one that got away.
Of course, later they compounded the issue by choosing him over Matt
Holliday when both were competing free agents.
We all know too well how that went.
CF
Here there were several contenders for bad trades, including
Mookie Wilson and Angel Pagan. Many
would argue that miscreant Lenny Dyskstra who was sent to the city of brotherly
love as part of a multiplayer deal to land a washed-up Juan Samuel and you
could have a case. After all, Dykstra
had 3 All Star appearances and once finished 2nd in the MVP
voting. However, you have to go back to
the early days of the franchise when they sent a .151 hitting outfielder to the
Kansas City Royals for an established major leaguer. Amos Otis was a five-time All Star and won
three Gold Gloves. The man they received
in return lasted a single forgettable season, Joe Foy, who provided a slash
line of .236/6/37.
RF
Here there were any number of contenders, too, including the
trading away of youngster Ken Singleton, but in my book the worst was when they
shipped fan favorite Rusty Staub for a single year of the 35 year old portly
pitcher Mickey Lolich.
C
Here’s on position where the Mets have had some truly good
players, including Jerry Grote, Gary Carter and Mike Piazza. While this nominee won’t cause as much agita
as other deals, they gave up prematurely on Bill Sudakis, sending him to the Rangers
for Bill McNulty who was a .039 hitter in the majors prior to the trade and
never sniffed the big leagues again.
Sudakis turned in a solid 15 HRs and 43 RBIs in just 235 ABs for the
Rangers. That definitely ranks as a
loser of a deal.
SPs
Well, here it gets ugly real fast. There is, of course, Tom Seaver and Nolan
Ryan, then David Cone, Scott Kazmir, and World Champion Collin McHugh. We picked up in return for this killer
rotation Jim Fregosi, Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Jeff Kent (good but not yet great
and sent packing before he flourished), Victor Zambrano and Eric Young,
Jr. That’s enough to make you cry.
RPs
Well, they gave up early for personality rather than
performance reasons on Frankie Rodriguez.
They traded Jeff Reardon, Roger McDowell, Heath Bell and Randy
Myers. Now the last one is somewhat
debatable since Franco endured 14 years as the resident tomato farmer and
delivered a 3.10 ERA over the span along with 276 saves. However in just 8 years Randy Myers produced
291 saves. For the others the Mets got
Juan Samuel, Jon Adkins, Ben Johnson, Danny Herrera and Ellis Valentine.
Conclusion
So this trip down memory lane was not to throw gasoline on the fire. It is a cautionary tale that just as FA contracts are fraught with risk, so too are other personnel decisions. Non-tendering players like Justin Turner can come back to bite you and questionable rationale for trades can hurt, too. As the Mets go into the winter meetings they have very few appealing trade chips they can offer up to other teams. Some of them most definitely have the prospect of biting them in the butt. The never-given-a-full-season-to-start Wilmer Flores is probably exhibit number one. Close behind, take a look again at what Amos Otis did at age 22 and then reflect once more on the noise we’re hearing about giving up already on Dom Smith. If Seth Lugo, Rafael Montero or Robert Gsellman get dealt away and flourish, so be it. Hopefully if they do the return is better than a speedy one-trick-pony who played every day but couldn’t even stay in the majors once he was dealt away. The club is going to have to use every trick in the book to try to acquire talent with limited funds and dubious appeal to free agents. Consequently we might actually see trades take place. Perhaps Sandy Alderson should keep Omar Minaya on speed dial before pulling the trigger, however.
11/28/17
Hot Stove - 11-28-17
The Baltimore Orioles is signing a minor league contract with ex-Met reliever, Josh Edgin and ex-Met infielder, Ruben Tejada.
11/27/2017 Winter League Results | Off Day in Mexico, Canelon Knocked Around, Gustavo "FLASH" Nunez
Arizona Fall League
- Completed on November 18th
(Recap can be found here.)
Mexican Pacific League
- No Games Scheduled
Venezuelan Winter League
- Cardenales de Lara 10 - 4 Tiburones de La Guaira
- LHP Kevin Canelon: 0.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER
Dominican Winter League
- Aguilas Cibaenas 2 - 6 Leones del Escogido
- Toros del Este 1 - 5 Estrellas Orientales
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
- Toros del Este 1 - 5 Estrellas Orientales
- SS Gustavo Nunez: 3 for 3, 3 R, 2 3B, RBI(8), SB(5)
Roberto Clemente Puerto Rican League
Side Note: Regular Season will start January 8th, 2018.
Tom Brennan - RECAP AND CONCLUSIONS ON MY 2008-17 DRAFT ARTICLES SERIES
ON MY 2008-17 DRAFT ARTICLES SERIES
Well, folks, I hope ya caught my eight articles on the Mets’ drafts of 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015-17, even half as much as I enjoyed writing them all.
In each article, I've been repeating my philosophy for the first 10 rounds:
When in doubt, draft power hitters and power pitchers.
To recap my series, to see the forest for the trees, and any other appropriate cliche, how have the Mets done
over the past 10 years in drafting in the key first 10 rounds?
LET ME REPEAT: This is not a critique on how the drafted
players have performed, but rather a critique of how the METS have done in
drafting. Where they got picked was all on the Mets' selection team, not the players.
I will focus on it in two multi-season subsets:
2008-14, a
period where by now most draftees’ career paths are pretty well defined. I name names.
2015-17, a
period when guys are still climbing and the chances for a promising guy to
stall out, or for a sputtering guy to break out, are still significant. So my observations on the classes of 2015-17
will be presented from a different, more general perspective.
I'll start with 2015-17 hitters drafted in the top 10 rounds
of the drafts:
2017 top
10 draft round hitters: only 3 bats drafted in the first 10 – Mark Vientos (2nd
round), Quinn Brodey (3rd round), and Matt Winaker (5th
round) – combined, in 490 at bats, they hit .257, 23 doubles, 3 triples, 7 HRs, 64 RBIs, 47
BB, 116 Ks. The 17 year old Vientos had
half of those extra base hits in just 174 of those 490 at bats. Very early to judge, and maybe 2018 will tell a different tale, but Brodey and Winaker
certainly have failed to demonstrate the power bats I’d like to see in the
early rounds (11 doubles, 3 HRs in 316 at bats).
2016 top
10 round hitters: Pete Alonso was a GREAT selection. The 4 other guys (draft round noted) – Blake Tiberi
(3), Michael Paez (4), Colby Woodmansee (5), and Gene Cone (10) – combined,
1804 ABs, .223, 83 doubles, 8 triples, 18 homers, 184 RBIs, 212 BBs, 426
Ks. Below that fine Pete Alonzo (#64
overall) pick, the other 4 top 10 round guys are hitting poorly, fanning too
much, and not generating nearly the kind of power I’d like to see in draftees (a homer
about once every 115 plate appearances).
2015 top 10 round hitters: to me, a solid hitters’
draft: Desmond Lindsay (2) injured too much so far for the soon-to-be 21 year
old to show his true colors (may 2018 lead to 125 games or more played for him); and David Thompson (4); Pat Mazeika (8); Kevin
Kaczmarski (9) – the foursome career-wise have combined for 3,524 ABs: .283, 228 doubles, 27 triples, 69 HRs, 515 RBIs, 403 BBs, 691 Ks.
Those are good numbers; Kaczmarski is light on homers but his 20 triples
make up for it a lot. Good hitters’ draft by
the Mets (yes, I can say something is a good job, when it in fact is).
2015-17
pitchers in the top 10: without going into details, I think
the Mets drafted pitchers well enough in these rounds (e.g., Peterson, Dunn, Kay), but I do think drafting
7 pitchers in their 2017 top 10 neglected their need to draft quality (power) hitters, so I need to criticize them for that.
2008
-2014 RECAP:
I will group DUDS ("what were they thinking?") Top 10 rounds’
picks by type, and then do the same with DUDES (fine picks, whether sabotaged later by injury or not).
DUD TYPE 1 –
drafted in first 10 rounds but failed to sign, which to me is a mortal baseball
sin:
Charles Zoyle, C, 5th
round, 2008; Damien Magnifico, P, 5th round, 2009, David Buchanan, P, 6th round 2009, and 2nd round P Teddy
Stankiewicz, 2012 – four unsigned
guys, and that’s 4 too many.
2009, rounds 8 to 10 - three straight duds: C Jeff Glenn; OF Nick Santomauro; C Taylor Freeman.
2011, 6th
round OF Joe Tuschak, and 7th round 1B/3B Cole Frenzel.
2012, 4th
round SS Branden Kaupe, and 9th round 3B Richie Rodriguez.
2013, 5th round OF Jared
King and 9th round OF Pat Biondi.
2014, 3rd round
SS Milton Ramos, 6th round, C Tyler Moore, and 9th
round 1B Michael Katz (latter had modest pop, but far too many Ks).
DUD TYPE 3 –
weak pitchers with low strikeouts – I count 7 of them:
2008, 10th round Brian Valenzuela.
2010, 6th round P Greg Peavey and 8th round P Ken McDowell.
2009, 9th round P Alex
Panteliodis and
10th round P Matt Budgell.
2012, 5th
round Brandon Welch.
2014, 5th round Josh
Prevost.
DUD TYPE 4: hitters picked too high in draft, given their performance; they were OK to be drafted by the Mets, each but should've been several rounds lower due to low average,
low power, and/or high Ks.
I count 3 of them:
I count 3 of them:
2008, 2nd round OF Javier Rodriguez.
2009, 3rd round IF Robbie Shields.
2013, 4th round IF LJ Mazzilli.
2008, 7th
round Michael Hebert.
2009, 7th round Darin Gorski.
2011, 3rd
round Logan Verrett and 4th round Tyler Pill.
2012, 3rd
round Matt Koch.
2013, 2nd round
Andrew Church and 3rd round Casey Meisner.
That is a lot of DUD picks.
33 Top 10 round picks in 7 years. 40%
NOW, ON TO THE 2008-14 DUDES I CONSIDERED TO BE GOOD:
DUDE TYPE 1: real major league impact hitters and pitchers – I count ONLY 8 – what they have in common, almost every time? POWER.
2008, 1st round 1B Ike Davis.
2009, 2nd round P Steve Matz.
2010, 1st
round P Matt Harvey.
2010, 9th
round P Jake deGrom.
2011, 1st round OF Brandon Nimmo (should have been a 2nd rounder).
2011, 2nd round P Michael Fulmer.
2011, 2nd round P Michael Fulmer.
2011, 10th round P Paul Sewald.
2014, 1st round
OF Michael Conforto.
(Lots of injuries, sadly, in that select group).
2008, 3rd
round OF Captain Kirk Nieuwenhuis, 6th round IF Josh Satin, and 9th
round IF/OF Eric Campbell.
2009, 4th round OF Darrell Ceciliani.
2010, 5th round OF Matt Den Dekker
and 10th round P Akeel Morris.
2011, 5th
round P Jack Leathersich, and 8th round IF Danny Muno.
2012, Comp Pick C Kevin
Plawecki (hopefully headed to Category 1).
2013, 1st
round 1B Dominic Smith (hopefully headed to Category 1).
(18 guys in DUDE Categories 1 and 2 is far too low over a 7 year stretch.)
DUDE TYPE 3: high round hitters & pitchers who've made the majors but appear to have been drafted several rounds too high. I count 2:
2012, 1st round IF Gavin Cecchini, and 2nd round Matt
Reynolds. Probably should have put Logan Verrett here, too, but so homer-prone, he's a "dud".
2012, 7th round
P Cory Oswalt, and 8th round C Tomas Nido.
2013, 10th
round IF Luis Guillorme.
2008,
1st round IF Reese Havens, comp pick P Brad Holt, and 4th
round OF Sean Ratliff.
2012, 6th round IF/OF Jayce Boyd (still
AAA active; might still make it).
2008, 9th round pick P Eric Beauliac.
2010, 2nd round C Blake Forsythe, 4th
round OF Cory Vaughn, and 7th round P Jeff Walters.
2011, 2nd round pick P Cory Mazzoni.
2013, 3rd Round OF Ivan
Wilson and 6th Round OF Champ Stuart (latter a still-active minor leaguer who I currently consider to be a very long
shot).
2014, 4th
round IF Eudor Garcia, 7th round P Brad Wieck (he may still work out as a big leaguer), 8th round
1B Dash Winningham, and 10th round P Kelly Secrest (in fairness, Secrest still might have a future MLB pen role).
2013,
7th round 1B Matt Oberste and 8th round
P Ricky Knapp.
MAIN OBSERVATION: TOO FEW IMPACT PLAYERS DRAFTED.
I LIKED JUST 50-60% OF TOP 10 ROUND DRAFT SELECTIONS SPANNING THE LAST 10 YEARS.
THAT'S IT - THE METS CAN DO BETTER THAN 50-60%.
MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY MOSTLY DRAFT WEAKLY.
THIS ARTICLE BREAKS DOWN WHY THAT'S SO:
TOO LIGHT ON POWER.
TOO LIGHT ON POWER.
Of the players who have not become high impact major leaguers, some tragic injuries prevented more impact players from reaching the MLB, but there have simply been too many bad and mediocre DUD picks. With more of a predisposition to drafting power bats and power arms, the chances of generating more high impact major leaguers would almost have to increase.
Thus ends this long recap article, but if you were wondering on my logic for putting each of the above players listed in the above respective assigned categories, I include below all of my prior 8 articles for the 2008 through 2017 draft years - please don't mind the poor spacing of text that follows.
Lastly:
Those who read Macks Mets articles?
Definitely in Dude Category, NOT DUDS.
Definitely in Dude Category, NOT DUDS.
TEXT OF 8 PRIOR ARTICLES IN THIS SERIES:
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2008
The Mets
have over many years not drafted enough power pitchers and power hitters in the
earlier (say, first 10) rounds of the annual draft.
I think the
Mets drafted reasonably well that season, but some bizarre and serious injuries
made it work out not so well long term.
Let me start
first with 2008's Top 10 Round DUDS (whom I define as "what were they
thinking" picks), followed by the good DUDES (or those destined to be good
until injured) and maybe some useful observations can be made and conclusions
drawn.
DUDS
JAVIER
RODRIGUEZ, OF, 2ND ROUND, # 68 OVERALL: never even
made it out of rookie ball (well, not true, he did get under 100 at bats in
Savannah), and he was the 68th overall pick - now THAT is a dud!
Actually, his hitting, while not earthshaking, would have made him one of
this year's best rookie ball hitters. JR got up 769 times, fanned too
much (171 times), and hit .248/.315/.388.
He produced
50 doubles and 15 homers, not bad, but still clearly underperformed for a #68
overall pick. He was listed at 6'2", 165, kind of skinny, yet was
not a speedster, with just 8 of 14 steals. Poor pick at that level.
CHARLES Z.
ZOYLE, C, 5TH ROUND, # 164: apparently never played
pro baseball - and was drafted in the 5th round - DUD!
MICHAEL
HEBERT, P, 7TH ROUND, # 180 - he was distinctly
mediocre, got to Savannah briefly, but threw just 166 innings over 4
seasons. 12-14, 3.85, 1.40 WHIP, 146 Ks. Not terrible, but not
making it at least to St Lucie from the 7th round renders you a DUD pick.
BRIAN
VALENZUELA, P, 10TH ROUND: a DUD pick, the lefty was
listed at just 5'10, 155, and went 2-10, 6.09 in 68 rookie ball innings.
Advice:
avoid soft tossing midgets until at least the 30th round. Having the last
name Valenzuela does not make you Fernando.
DUDES
Several real
dudes in the top 10, but the unfolding was akin to a Shakespeare tragedy.
Macbeth agrees with me.
IKE DAVIS,
1B, 1ST ROUND, # 18 OVERALL: Ike was a good selection,
but a sad tale indeed. It took the power hitter something like 300 plate
appearances to record his first minor league homer, and to me smelled like a
possible bust. In his first full minor league season, he was very
impressive, and after a very short stint in AAA in 2010, up he came.
Ike had a
highly impressive rookie season with the Mets in 2010, and got off to a
scorching start in 2011, seemingly the Mets' next star until the oft-injured
David Wright stepped on his foot on a play by the mound, after which Ike was
improperly treated medically. 36 games was it for Ike in 2011. In
2012, Ike got off to an excruciatingly prolonged bad start, but then hit homers
in huge bunches in the season's 2nd half, and it looked like our star 1B was
back.
He wasn't
back - he mimicked his horrendous 2012 start in 2013, and eventually got
demoted. The Duda vs. Ike debate erupted in earnest that spring,
eventually Ike got traded, and he hit marginally and ended up in the minors,
and appears he may try his hand at pitching now. A baffling one, but
certainly a good pick. Always leaving one to wonder: what if David Wright
HADN'T stepped on Ike's foot (ankle)?
REESE
HAVENS, IF, 1ST ROUND, # 22 OVERALL: should
really be in the DUD column, but it was a serious injury that did him in.
After his Brooklyn debut in 2008, he hit well in A ball in 2009, with
pop. Hopes were rising.
In 2010, he
got off hot: .312/.386/.592 in 32 games, mostly in AA - sure looked like a fine
pick to that point, with people wondering how long it would take for him
to join David Wright as a star in the Mets IF - then the doggone Mets Jinx hit
him, too...he suddenly had bad rib cage issues, eventually needing
rib-shortening surgery, playing only 193 games from May 2010 until his career
ended in 2013 - sounds eerily reminiscent of David Wright. If no injury,
he looked like Ike did - a fine pick. Injuries suck.
BRAD HOLT,
P, COMP PICK, # 33 OVERALL: Another Mets Jinx
dude.
An excellent
pick, he dominated big time in Brooklyn in his debut season. The Mets
jumped him to St Lucie in 2009; he got shelled in his first game, but in his
next 9 outings, he was outstanding: 46 IP, just 8 earned runs and 29 hits, and
52 Ks...fans began to drool - then of course big time arm problems hit him and
he was just never anywhere near the same again, with his career ending in 2012.
Another sad teaser tale for hungry Mets fans.
KIRK
NIEUWENHUIS, OF, 3RD ROUND, # 100:
Captain Kirk conceptually was another fine Mets pick who never quite
panned out due to his inability to curtail his strikeouts. Good size,
strong, good speed...hole in bat. Worst Mets player to ever hit 3 homers
in a game. Mets tried to draft power and speed, it almost worked out, but
those strikeouts could never be reduced.
SEAN
RATLIFF, OF, 4TH ROUND, # 134:
Another Mets Jinx victim!!! A promising career cut short when he
got nailed in the eye while in the on deck circle. He also
fanned a bit too much, but in 2010, he played great in A and AA, hitting
.298/.353/.505 in 130 games. He later briefly tried a comeback, but was
unable to proceed.
Early on, with Davis, Havens, Holt, Kirk
and Ratliff all looking so promising, this in many Mets fans' eyes had to
be sizing up to be one of their best drafts ever - then gosh, the injuries were
stunning and career-changing. Injury-wise, Davis,
Havens, Holt, and Ratliff remind me of the Mets' injury-ravaged 2017 season.
JOSH SATIN
ROUND 6, ERIC CAMPBELL IN ROUND 9: Certainly
not duds, but I would have tried to draft guys with more power. Neither
had speed nor power.
ERIC
BEAULAC, P, 9TH ROUND: Eric was in fact the
type of guy I like to see drafted, a hard thrower who compiled 52 starts and 65
relief appearances over 6 seasons and was 21-21, 3.40 with a K per inning,
including a few outings in AAA.
His control
issues appear to have been his undoing, averaging almost 5 walks per 9 IP.
He also did not pitch a lot those last 3 years, indicative of probable
health issues. Nice try here by the Mets. Didn't pan out.
Below the
top 10, only Colin McHugh turned out to be any good. Rounds
11-50 were filled with a bunch of no-names, with my favorite being Forrest
Gump's brother Brian Gump in the 46th round. That's all I have
to say about that, and about 2008's Mets draft, for that matter.
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2009
In this article series I am been looking at draft DUDS (guys who you
have to wonder "whatever were the Mets thinking" when they drafted
them) and draft DUDES (guys who either made it in style to the big leagues or
were fine picks waylaid by injuries).
I recently did an article about how the heck the Mets could have passed
on drafting Paul Goldschmidt in 2009, in which I touched on some of
the Mets Top 10 rounds' draft picks.
Here's an expand recap of what I wrote then.
If you just ate, reading this may get you nauseous, so proceed with
caution:
1st round - lost the pick - happens. Coulda been Mike Trout. Naturally,
we did not have that pick.
2nd round
- Steve Matz - good pick; sure he's had injuries, but you
can't assume injuries, so you pick him again. DUDE.
3rd round -
IF Robbie Shields: low power mediocrity. DUD. Complete
Dud. What were they thinking? .243/.315/.351 in his minor league career
in nearly 400 games (none above A ball) is not 3rd round stuff, and lacks the
power one has to expect from a 3rd round hitter with only decent speed.
4th round
- Darrell Ceciliani - a decent enough 4th round pick - if
Goldschmidt was not available. Which he was, which makes this pick not so
decent. DC has fine speed, negated by a persistently bad hammy or two,
and decent power, but only .190 in 100 major league at bats with 39 Ks - not a
DUD, but also not really a DUDE.
5th round -
P Damien Magnifico - did not sign with the Mets: his post-Mets
career in MLB is under 4 IP - not a hard thrower. Not a DUD, not a DUDE
if they signed him, but you fail to sign the guy??? That is a DUD result,
bro'.
6th round -
P David Buchanan - did not sign with the Mets - signed with
Phils instead in 2010; 8-17, 5.01 in the majors, and not a power K-type
pitcher. Not a DUD, not a DUDE if they signed him, but you fail to
sign the guy? That is a DUD result, bro'. (Didn't I just say that?)
7th round
- Darin Gorski, the far-too-soft tossing lefty to ever
realistically have a shot to make the majors. DUD....draft power arms
now, smile at the DUDE you picked later.
ROUNDS 8 THRU 10?
C JEFF GLENN (made it to AAA, .218 hitter);
OF NICK
SANTOMAURO (only .191 above rookie
ball); and
C TAYLOR
FREEMAN (.207 in rookie ball).
I dunno
about you - those 3 were super DUDS.
Bad
drafting in the first 10 rounds, in my humble opinion.
Below the Top 10 draft rounds? Absolutely nothing.
Bad work
there - usually someone will make it from those rounds, even marginally.
Overall
draft score? D, and that is only
because we got Matz.
Question of
the day: will the Mets never learn? Draft power arms and bats, then sit
back and smile.
This was a
very, very bad draft. No other way to put it.
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2010
As we all
intuitively know, there is a moderately strong correlation between the chances
of big league success that a drafted player will have in terms of a major
league career, and what round he is drafted in. The higher the round,
generally the better the chances.
I have in
recent months broached an approach that which I think is obvious...try to draft
power bats and then power pitchers. Of course, power bats are only
attractive if the hitters' contact rates are not unacceptable.
Who were the
DUDS in rounds 1 through 10 in 2010? Why did they fail?
2nd round
catcher BLAKE FORSYTHE - the man had some power
but fanned way too much. .226/.313/.378, with 456 Ks in 1.374 career ABs.
In fairness, a reasonably decent pick, a good power guy who did not hit
enough to work out. Can't win 'em all.
4th round OF
CORY VAUGHN - the Mets hoped for
lightning in a family bottle here in drafting the son of high-powered former
major leaguer Greg Vaughn
and the nephew of "lethal-before-he-became-a-Met" Mo Vaughn. (My tablet
changed the spelling from Mo to No, so it is smart after all).
That family
thing, which seems to work so well for so many teams (ask Pittsburgh about Barry Bonds, Seattle about Griffey Jr), only has
worked in the Mets drafting Todd
Hundley (and Preston
Wilson, but he never suited up for the Mets).
Cory had a nice
first season for the Brooklyn Cyclones, but hit just .210 in both of his last 2
seasons in AA and AAA. He turned out to be a dud but was not that bad, so
he was not a terrible pick. Decent power, fine speed, struck out a lot
but not in the extreme...just not good enough.
5th round OF
MATT DEN DEKKER: the Mets gambled that
this fine defensive and quick-footed CF could fix his strikeout problem.
He did make the majors and in 350 at bats, hit .234, but in recent years
in AAA, has regressed. AAAA.
His 93 games
in Vegas in 2014 were his pinnacle, where it all seemed to be coming together
for Matt, when he hit .334/.407/.540, and my hopes for him soared - but it was
more of a flash in the pan than anything else. Essentially, he has been a
borderline MLB 5th OF, not terrible for a #5 round pick, but still mostly a Dud
pick. Why?
Borderline
5th OFs are abundantly available; quality MLB OFs are a scarcer commodity.
6th round
RHSP GREG PEAVEY - an all-too typical
Mets pitching pick...mediocre...his minor league final numbers were 45-39, 4.60
ERA, 60 homers allowed, and only 466 Ks in 667 P. Almost as good as a Logan Verrett, who was not
good. Hint to the Mets: draft power arms, not low velocity Peaveys type,
who usually stall out in the high minors.
8th round KENNETH MCDOWELL - he won three quarters of his decisions and had a career ERA
of 2.25. So what is the problem? He only threw 20 minor league
innings, fanned just 11, going 3-1 in his career and only making it as far as
Kingsport. The Mets would have been better off drafting Malcolm McDowell or Roddy McDowell (above).
Of course,
there were DUDES
(pictured above) and not just DUDS in the 2010 top 10 Mets' draft picks.
In the 9th
and 10th rounds, they drafted a former SS you may have heard of named Jake deGrom, a fine
fireballer who hits better than many of the bats they've drafted over the
years, and a now-24 year old Akeel
Morris, who appears like he may be a decent pen arm for the
Braves.
They also
drafted a Dark Knight in the first round named Matt Harvey, and Jeff Walters in the 7th
round, who looked like a promising reliever and good 7th round selection until
Tommy John paid him a visit, after which he was never the same.
In
2013, Walters was stellar at 4-3, 2.09 with 38 of 42 saves in AA - then
POOF went his career, as happens to pitchers so frequently, due to a TJS
injury.
A terrible
draft below round # 10; only useful pieces were Eric Goeddel (24th round) and Josh Edgin (30th round).
Overall,
2010's top 10 picks had its share of DUDS, sure, but they mostly got it
right...going with power pitching and power hitting and/or speedy position
players. Avoid the Peavey and McDowell softy pitcher types and it
might have been a great draft in those rounds.
Tom Brennan: DRAFT DUDS - 2011
Continuing
on with my DRAFT DUDS series, looking for patterns in why the Mets currently
have a minor league system envied by pretty much no one except - give me a
minute here, will ya?
OK, let me
get back to you on that...just not a good system right now.
Who in the
2011 draft's Mets top 10 picks were DUDS, and which were DUDES (that is, guys
who aren't duds, basically):
2nd round
RHP Cory Mazzoni has been a
disappointment, but not quite a dud. But he is more dud than dude, so for
this article, DUD.
Simply, his
minor league numbers have been quite solid - but the majors? Oh, boy.
2017 was a doozie, in which in rehab stints and AAA he threw 30 innings,
allowed 2 earned runs, walked 3, and fanned 48. Sweet. Then gets a
September call up and gets obliterated: 8 innings, 17 hits, 16 runs. Matt
Harvey was in shock that someone could be worse than him!
Cory's
lifetime in the majors has sure been productive, for his opponents, that is:
16.2 IP, 40 hits, 38 runs, 4 walks, just 12 Ks. Jekyll and Hyde BP
numbers on steroids. He no longer fills up at BP gas stations, hoping
something will change. He's no longer a Met organization guy, so enough
on him. Except to say it seemed like an OK pick that just did not work
out.
3rd round
RHP Logan Verrett: another guy who is more
dud than dude, given his being the 101st overall pick.
Extremely HR
prone, allowing a remarkable (for the minors) home run every 9 innings, he has
gone 6-10 in 150 major league innings with 114 Ks and a homer every 6 innings.
He was solid
enough with the Mets in 2016 over 14 appearances and 4 starts, and surprisingly
(to me, at least) Verrett had a brilliant April 2016 (3-0, including back to
back 6 shutout inning efforts and no HRs and just 1 earned run in 17 innings),
but he lost his last 8 decisions in 2016 as his ERA ballooned to 5.20, and as
he allowed an unsurprising 16 HRs over his last 74 innings. He went 2-0
in limited action in 2017 with the Orioles. Not a flamethrower, which is
largely why he is homer prone, a career-limiting defect, and which is why,
despite his MLB experience, he is a DUD.
4th round
RHP Tyler Pill: yet another guy who is more dud than dude because
of low velocity. He has largely been solid up to AA, but in AAA, he has
gone 5-7, 5.57 in 195 innings. Getting a surprising opportunity in early
2017 due to his good AAA pitching this season and a slew of Mets pitching
injuries, Pill failed to capitalize, going 0-3, 5.22 in 20+ innings. Nice
bat, but if I were drafting in the 4th round, I would (not to sound
repetitious) have taken a power arm.
5th round
LHRP Jack Leathersich - to me, he was a good
pick, a DUDE: wild, lots and lots of Ks, and just when he was showing he might
be a Mets bullpen guy, he blows his arm out and misses a season plus.
Nonetheless, the Cubs took him in Rule 5, figuring he'd be rehabbing most
of the year and thus not tie up a spot all season on their 25 man roster.
This season,
he was lethal in AAA for the last few months, got traded to Pittsburgh and was
impressive in relief in September. So, for a 5th rounder, it has been a
winding road, but I put him as slightly more dude than dud. I'd take him
back if I were Sandy. John Travolta, though, says NAH!
6th round OF
Joe Tuschak - DUD, DUD, DUD.
Played in 305 minor league games and hit a paltry .218/.298/.311.
Power bat? Nope. Bad pick.
7th round
1B/3B Cole Frenzel - the Mets did all right
once with a 7th round first base pick, but not this time...he hit
.237/.324/.345, with just 16 homers in 299 games. Not enough power, so it
was a DUD pick. I just wonder if Frenzel knows Denzel, then I'd really
like the pick instead.
9th pick RHP
Alex Panteliodis - why they picked him is
all Greek to me. The lefty had a 1.51 career WHIP and just 189 Ks in 300
IP, clearly far from major league caliber stuff - a wasted DUD pick, when they
instead should have grabbed a power arm. He was minor league filler, a
waste of a 9th pick. But they made Zorba
the Greek very happy. OPA!!
10th rounder
P Matt Budgell - DUD - a very short
career, spanning 36 IP, with just 26 Ks in rookie ball - a power arm, again,
would have been better. No available power arms? Then pick a power
bat.
This draft
was nonetheless quite interesting for the Metsies, as Brandon Nimmo has
not yet, but may still one day, prove to be the real deal and worthy of being a
first round pick; 2nd rounder Michael Fulmer has been special ever since
the Mets traded him; Danny Muno has performed as expected for an 8th
round pick, even if his was not a dazzling pick; picks 13, 14, and 15 were
nice, too, as the Mets nabbed Rob Gsellman, AAA catcher Xorge Carillo,
and an IF with MLB potential in Phil Evans.
Travis
Taijeron was a nice enough power
bat pick in round 18, even if his career stalls; John Gant a fine pick
for a 20th round pitcher; and Seth Lugo and Chase Bradford being
surprisingly good for 34th and 35th round picks.
So, overall,
it was a pretty good draft, but sullied by there being 5 DUD pitching picks and
2 DUD hitting picks in the first 10 rounds. Too many duds due to not
drafting power arms and bats whenever and wherever possible.
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2012
2012's draft to me looked like a DUD, walked like a DUD, and quacked like a
DUD. It deserved a 17 DUD SALUTE.
A far from ducky draft.
Let's look at the 12 guys
they nabbed in Top 10 round -
7 duds (far too many) and
5 others of modest potential:
DUDS:
Gavin
Cecchini IF, pick # 12 round 1 - Cheech
seems to lack to skill set to be a successful first-half-of-first-round round
caliber - short on the 5 tools. Perhaps he will still become a decent
major leaguer, but...
Matt
Reynolds IF, pick # 71 round 2 - Cheech II
- need I elaborate? Why pick low power, low speed CHEECHES?
Teddy
Stankiewicz, P, picked # 75 round 2 - how you
can pick a guy as high as # 75 and he does not sign with you is bewildering.
He signed the next season, drafted, yes, in the 2nd round, with the Red
Sox (prefers the color red, I guess); he has been decidedly mediocre at
every level since, and has not fanned a ton of guys (398 in 577 career
innings). DUD. Stinky Stanky.
Matt Koch P,
picked # 107 round 3 - Stinky Stanky II, also decidedly
mediocre at every level since, and has not fanned a ton of guys (319 in 499
career minors innings).
Branden
Kaupe, a very short SS, picked # 140 round 4 - he was
also very short in his ability to hit and hit for power - a mere 4 doubles and
6 triples in 600 plate appearances. Bewildering.
Brandon
Welch, P picked # 170 round 5 - Stinky Stanky III,
except his career spanned only 65 innings in the minors, with 43 Ks.
Richie
Rodriguez, 3B, round 9 # 290 pick: classic
Mets DUD pick - why draft a 5'9", 170 3B unless he exudes something
special? His .161/.226/.236 line in about 260 rookie ball plate
appearances made him Kaupe II.
Then there
are the 2012 top 10 round picks that may turn out to not be duds, or were
good picks gone bad due to injury:
POTENTIAL
DUDES:
Kevin
Plawecki, C, pick # 35 Compensation Round A -
his strong
finish in 2017 with the Mets is a happily hopeful sign he may be a competent,
frequently playing major league catcher. Jury still out...
Jayce Boyd,
IF/OF, round 6 # 200 - never seen as a power
guy, his rib surgery messed up his throwing and hitting for a while. He
hit really well, and with power (.330/.400/.600), in his last 2+ months in AAA
in 2017, so my take is if it had not been for his rib/shoulder, he might
(hitting-wise) have been another Daniel Murphy.
If he can't
field in a big league caliber manner, though, his potential as a major leaguer
is a long shot.
Cory Oswalt,
RHSP, picked in round 7 # 230: slowed by
injuries prior to 2017, he was stellar in 2017 and may well turn out to be
an above-average pick. Quite possibly a Mets 4/5 type starter as soon as
at some point in 2018.
Tomas Nido,
C, picked in round 8 # 260: fine defensive catcher,
but the bat is still suspect - likely a back up major league catcher, possible
starter if the bat can take a leap.
Paul Sewald,
RHRP, picked in round 10 # 320: not a flame
thrower, but a really fine minor league reliever who took advantage of a slew
of injuries to crack the major league glass ceiling in 2017. Pitched very
well the majority of the time, but still managed to go 0-6. He strikes
out a lot of guys without raw firepower, and may still turn out to be a
solid-average major league middle reliever.
Did the last 30 rounds of
2012 (11 thru 40) yield any gems?
No.
Not
really...decent or potentially decent major leaguers only appear to include
righty reliever Matt Bowman and RHP Chris Flexen and 3 possibles:
Logan Taylor, Tim Peterson, and the traded Rob Whalen.
2012 METS DRAFT SUMMARY:
It is
abundantly clear that the Mets did not go into the draft focusing on drafting
power bats and power pitching.
The
non-power bats drafted collectively appear to have at best future modest
helpfulness at the major league level. Grade
D-.
The
pitching, almost devoid of power arms, is likely to have at most modest success
at the big league level. Grade C.
I did
not, for the sake of full disclosure, try to look at guys that other
teams drafted in the same rounds that were available to the Mets - but even
without doing that, the Mets sure could have done better by:
Focusing on POWER BATS AND
ARMS.
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2013
2013 begins to be a time close enough to the draft to find it getting harder to
separate busts (DUDS) from solid picks (DUDES).
The Mott the
Hoople guy thinks they're all young DUDES, but I'm of a different opinion and
told him he should stick to rock.
Overall, I think 2013 was another weak Mets draft year because not enough toolsy guys were picked. There were some real DUDS, no overwhelmingly clear DUDES chosen.
DUDS
2ND ROUND ANDREW CHURCH, SP: I have not given up all hope on Church, but his combo in 2017 of weak ERA in A ball coupled with a low strikeout rate has me heavily leaning towards DUD....a 2nd round pick should have more high octane velocity. One hopes, though, that Church pitches every Sunday. Let's hope it's not in the church softball game.
3RD ROUND OF IVAN WILSON #76: I was tempted to put this bust of a draft pick in the "dude" pile anyway, as I liked the pick - he had all the tools...except for the tool that would fill in the gaping hole in his bat. His strikeout rate, as he getting as high as full A ball, was far too high.
It seemed he
had physical talent similarities to Aaron Judge, although unlikely to ever be
nearly as good, so hopefully he did not hang up the spikes too soon. But a wash
out that early, picked that high? DUD.
3RD ROUND SP CASEY MEISNER #84: traded in the 2015 pitching prospect fire sale during a strong season, the now 22 year old Meisner then went an awful 1-14 in 2016 and rebounded to a mediocre 10-9 in 2017. His K rate dropped to under 6 Ks per 9 IP after his promo in mid-season to AA.
Seems like a
possible mediocre future MLB fringe starter, so this pick seems. much more DUD
than DUDE right now, given that he was a #84 pick, but he might swing the
pendulum towards DUDE in 2018 yet. Not a hard enough thrower to me to go
here in round 3. Draft flamethrowers in the 3rd round instead,
that's my free advice.
4TH ROUND LJ MAZZILLI, IF, 116TH pick: Awful selection. LJ gets a 4 DUD Rating. Too old at draft time, too mediocre in talent to be picked anywhere in the top 10 rounds....and Cody Bellinger was available. What would a smart team do when faced with a choice between these two? We all know what the Dodgers did. Smart.
5TH ROUND OF JARED KING: Simply put : Bust pick....less ability than Mazzilli, lacked power, and average speed. You cannot waste 5th round picks on guys with his talent level. All-too-typical dumb Mets pick, when you should be drafting guys with power in the 5th round, not ones with (if all goes well) a 5th OF ceiling. DUD.
6TH ROUND OF CHAMP STUART: Worth, IMO, taking a 6th round flyer on this super-fast outfielder, but like Ivan Wilson, this man's prodigious strikeout rate has him looking for all the world like a bust. He has shown grudging progress year by year, but he appears to be a DUD pick.
He should
still get another year or two to see if the K rate can be normalized, given his
speed gift. Watch Matty Alou tapes, Champ. Do like Matty Alou do.
9TH ROUND OF PAT BIONDI: Like Champ Stuart, except not as fast, less power, and also a weak hitter. I would have picked a power hitter, rather than a no-power outfielder, with this pick. DUD. Should have been at best a teens pick.
DUDES - not too many, not too convincing:
1ST ROUND PICK, #11 OVERALL, 1B DOMINIC SMITH: tough call right now, but I still think Smitty hits better in 2018 after shedding some weight over the winter and turns into a good MLB 1B.
Jury, sadly,
is still out as to whether this #11 overall pick in the 2013 draft is dud or
dude... I will cautiously vote DUDE.
7TH ROUND 1B MATT OBERSTE: a solid player and decent hitter, he seems to have been picked around the right round. His power has been disappointing for a big guy, and my take is it may well keep him out of the majors. Still, can't argue with him being a 7th round selection. Maybe he'll fix the power and make it somehow.
8TH ROUND SP RICKY KNAPP: similar to Oberste, I give Knapp a very cautious DUDE Rating, only because I believe he has performed as one might expect a typical 8th rounder would. I would have picked a harder thrower with that pick, if at all possible. He ran headlong into the Vegas Wall in 2017, and his K rate was weak. Seems like he has a AAAA ceiling, another Tyler Pill type. Roll the dice and draft power arms.
10TH ROUND IF LUIS GUILLORME: a very solid 10th round pick. The Glove Wizard needs to continue to look for ways to add power and more OBP to make him major league caliber. 2018 will be key for Luis, but it was a smart selection by the Mets, although I have a preference for guys with power, if you haven't caught on yet to my repetition.
Tyler Bashlor
Thankfully,
the draft didn't end at round 10 for our Metsies. In the 11th thru 13th
round, the Mets picked very well indeed, grabbing fireballing reliever Tyler Bashlor, Tom Brennan utility
favorite Jeff McNeil,
and big righty Kevin McGowan.
My only
problem with those 3 DUDES? That
they weren't picked during the first 10 rounds by da Mets. Shoulda been.
I really like all 3 of these picks in 11 through 13.
Even with them, I give the Mets a C- on this draft.
Poor job overall in
drafting, once again.
Power
pitching; power hitting. There's your formula.
Tom Brennan- DRAFT DUDS 2014
In scanning
the Mets drafts' top 10 rounds' selections since 2008, there are DUDS (i.e.,
puzzling to baffling picks) and DUDES (guys whose picks, given the rounds they
were picked in, make the Mets look smart.
(Please note
that when I characterize a player as a dud, it is the Mets who selected him
that I am criticizing, not the player, as I believe there had to be better
power hitting or power pitching candidates available for draft selection than
who they picked).
2014's DUDES LIST - TAKE 5:
First round
pick MICHAEL CONFORTO is the authentic article,
when healthy. This pick was a "DUDE"
bullseye. I won't elaborate; if ya don't know about this guy,
google him!
4th rounder
EUDOR GARCIA looked good as a
potentially legit stick man and 3B until he couldn't stay out of the PED candy
jar and then left the Mets for Mexico in 2017. All that is a puzzler, but
early on he looked like a DUDE pick. I won't penalize the Mets here, his
was a good pick that went awry.
7th rounder,
towering lefty BRAD WIECK, was dealt to San Diego
by the Mets in 2015. He is in my draft DUDE category because any guy
with 332 Ks in 249 minor league innings is worthy to elect and try to
refine. He walks a few too many, but could do some major league damage in
2018.
8th rounder,
1B DASH WINNINGHAM, was a very logical power
pick for that round. He's stalled in Columbia, hitting in the mid .230s each of
the past 2 seasons. But his 75 doubles, 42 HRs, and 226 RBIs in 1327 ABs
offer hope that he could accelerate as a 23 year old slugger in
2018.
DUDE PICK.
10th
rounder, LHRP KELLY SECREST, has done quite well for
a 10th rounder: 11-12, 3.26 with 187 Ks in 182 IP. Seven innings so far
in AAA...possible future MLB lefty reliever. In round 10, that is
DUDE-quality picking.
DUD PICKS?
I count 5:
Can't
criticize the Mets' 2nd round pick, except to note they did not have
one!! Losing the second rounder for a washed up Michael Cuddyer was a
DUD move.
3rd rounder
Milton Ramos, SS, might be a good fielder,
but he is another guy who makes Ruben Tejada look like A-Rod with
the bat. DUD PICK. Now an Oriole farm laddie.
5th rounder
JOSH PREVOST, RP, missed 2017 with an arm
injury but only fanned 125 in 189 IP before then, while going 11-14, 3.65.
Hitters have gone .289 against him. While he is big, his stuff is
not big enough...DUD PICK.
6th rounder,
C TYLER MOORE, is .211/.291/.288 in
over 200 games. Only 64 at bats above Full A. Gotta pick better
hitters, even if they are catchers, in round 6...DUD PICK.
9th rounder,
1B MICHAEL KATZ, put up good RBI numbers
(101 in 719 at bats), but not much pop (.335 slug %) and 248 Ks. Not a
terrible pick, but I will go with DUD here. He was released after 2016.
There were 3
very nice quality picks below the top 10, IMO:
17th rounder
and LHRP DAVE ROSEBOOM had a dismal, injury ended season in AAA in
2017 after a brilliant 2016 AA campaign. Hopefully, a healthy Roseboom
will rebound sharply in 2018 on his way to the bigs.
29th rounder
MATT BLACKHAM is a HARD THROWER who probably
slipped to the 29th round due to his size. After his obligatory TJS in
2016, he had a brilliant relief season with A ball Columbia: 1.42 ERA and
almost 13 Ks per 9 IP for the reliever. Matt - fast track to majors? We
will see in 2018.
40th rounder
DALE BURDICK is a young, hard hitting
IF with strong defensive fundamentals. His bat needs work, but I think we will
see young Burdick really blossom with more playing time in 2018. Already
reached AAA at age 21, even if for just 11 ABs. .217/.310/.369 in A, AA,
and AAA in 2017, but remember, he was only 21 in 2017.
Overall, I
give this draft a B-, as any
draft that gets us a talent like a Conforto starts out with at least a C grade;
I hope, though, that the Mets of Queens will not draft any more defensive
IFs and catchers in the first10 rounds who are small in stature and/or pop
gun bats and/or having trouble breaking a pane of glass with their fastball.
Tom Brennan - DRAFT DUDS 2015-17
In previous
DRAFT DUDS articles, I covered the top 10 draft rounds' picks for each of the
years 2008 thru 2014, identifying draft DUDS (what were the Mets thinking
picking those guys) and DUDES (smart picks, whether they panned out).
Guys I identified as DUDS were far less a critique of the selected ballplayers
and far more a criticism of those doing the picking.
In draft
years 2015-17, all covered in this article, I went less detailed on the
players, since if I am critical, these newbies don't need it. So here
goes:
2015 - an odd draft year where
almost all players drafted in round 21-40 by the Mets went unsigned. Regardless
of performance and injuries to date, I liked most of the Mets' top 10 picks
this time around. No first rounder, again, but I still like OF Desmond Lindsay in the
2nd round, the traded P
Max Wotell in
round 3 despite a terrible 2017 in his new organization, love the picks of 3B David Thompson and P Tom Szapucki in rounds 4
and 5, am OK with P Chase
Ingram in round 6, thought P Corey Taylor, C Pat Mazeika, and OF Kevin Kaczmarski were
very solid picks in rounds 7-9, and the luck ran out with P Witt Haggard in round 10.
After round
10, the selections of crafty
lefty PJ Conlon in round 13, fine starter Jordan Humphreys in round
18, and fine hitting Anthony
Domino in round 28 made for a quality DRAFT...except for that
forfeited first round pick.
2016 - brought us 2 first round
picks in Long Island pitchers Justin
Dunn and Anthony Kay. Not so good there so far, but very
hopeful for 2018. Pete
Alonso was a great 2nd round slugger pick, but the rounds 3-5
and #10 round hitters picked (Blake
Tiberi, Michael Paez, Colby Woodmansee and Gene Cone) I am
disappointed with - so far...maybe 2018 is breakthrough time for each, but it
seems like those crucial rounds' hitter selections could have been
better.
I want to
see more power hitting drafted in these rounds.
The Mets
went with pitchers in rounds 6 thru 9, and I like the Chris Viall (6), Austin McGeorge (7), and
Colin Holderman (9) picks. The fact that # 8 Placido Torres is
already released speaks for itself. Below the top 10, I like the 15th
round pick of super speedy OF Jacob
Damon, and a few relievers show some promise.
2017 - I
like the David Peterson
pick in round 1, as he may become a quality starter. I also like 2nd
round, 17 year old slugging IF
Mark Vientos. After that, time will tell, but I would
have wanted more power bats and less relief arms drafted in rounds 3 thru 10.
May I be proven wrong and all of the 3 thru 10 round guys dazzle us in
2018.
My
conclusion for draft years 2015 thru 2017 is that all 3 years were solid
pitcher-wise, but the drafting of hitters could have been greatly enhanced by a
greater emphasis on power bats. Why power?
Because
there are very few meaningful hitting roles at the major league level, and if a
player lacks power, he already has strikes 1 and 2 against him, unless he has a
true speed tool. If hitters lack power, most times they are wasted picks
in terms of meaningful future major league contribution. Draft a power
guy like a Paul Goldschmidt in the 8th round, or. Rhys Hoskins in the 5th
round, and you may find you've gotten really lucky with that pick.
IF YOU READ THIS FAR, I HAVE TO AGAIN CONCLUDE: DRAFT POWER!
IF YOU READ THIS FAR, I HAVE TO AGAIN CONCLUDE: DRAFT POWER!
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