Showing posts with label Starling Marte. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Starling Marte. Show all posts

2/27/25

MACK - DEEP DIVE - STARLING MARTE

 


Everybody can stop wondering why the Mets haven't traded Starling Marte.

Another day, another slow reported injury.

Seems it took this long for Carlos Mendoza to announce that Marte hasn't healed entirely.  In fact, he just isn't ready to play in exhibition games.

There is still soreness in his knee and the best Mendoza can estimate going forward is that he can't begin batting practice. Yet. Sometime this month but date unknown. 

So we can spend volumes on slow communication again, but I choose not to. What I'm going to do is project this outfield, going forward.

STARTERS

I'm going to assume that Brandon Nimmo will  solve him inyourfaceous problem by opening day and open up in left. That leaves the two headed centerfield combo of Siri-Tayler and Juan Soto in right.

JEFF MCNEIL 

My obvious choice. UT1 while doubling as playing second along with Luisangel Acuña

JESSE WINKER

Hands down the LHDH

ALEXANDER CANARIO

The new guy slots in as RHDH

The Mets could either promote a prospect or look outside, but I don't see either. The rooks just aren't there yet and I believe the Marte problems is just a short term hiccup.


Agree?

11/28/24

Paul Articulates - The Veteran Dilemma


The Steve Cohen / David Stearns plan to rebuild the New York Mets into a sustainable championship contender made great strides last year as the team rode a late season surge to a berth in the National League Championship Series.  

Although the Mets ultimately lost that series to the World Champion Dodgers, they put up a great fight (better than the Yankees in the WS).

So now, as we are a couple weeks into the free agent signing period, how does the front office go about improving upon last year?  Clearly there is a need to bolster the pitching both in the rotation and in the bullpen.  

I believe that there will be some notable additions to the team in this area that will have Mets fans excitedly looking forward to the 2025 season.  There is also the Juan Soto sweepstakes which will go on for weeks.  You can read the tea leaves any way you want, but it will likely be some sort of late dynamic that will seal Soto’s future.

As easy as it is to covet the star players that are available and rationalize that “Steve can afford it”, there are also some other dirty details that must be determined to shape the roster.  Those details involve what to do with some of the older veterans on the team.  That is the subject of this article.

The path to a sustainable championship contender has to be paved with talented youth coming up through the development system.  The economics of MLB roster building requires that some portion of the team consists of players that are still under team control at affordable annual wages so there is enough available money to obtain the star power that makes a good team great.  

If you buy into this premise, then you understand that there has to be a steady flow of talent into the major league team, and that flow has to be matched by other personnel exiting the roster.  Most likely those that exit are marginal bench players and/or aging veterans that have passed their peak.

A quick scan of the 40 man roster for the oldest position players yields two visible stars that underperformed last year: Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil.  Both of those players have had very productive years with the Mets and have earned some loyalty from the fans for bringing many memorable moments to the Citi Field faithful.  

Unfortunately, in the business side of baseball, there is not much loyalty.  Roster decisions are ultimately made through value assessments of each player and their ability to contribute to future wins.  So let us do such an assessment on our two aging stars.


Starling Marte was born October 9, 1988 which will make him 37 years old on opening day 2025.  Marte has compiled an impressive .286/.342/.441 slash line over a 1432 game MLB career.  He is a two-time gold glove winner and a two-time National League all-star.  In 2015 he was named a Wilson defensive player of the year.  

Marte has contributed 304 hits in 298 games since his debut with the Mets in 2022 and 81 of those went for extra bases.  He stole 58 bags during that period which is just over 20% of the stolen bases for the team. He has played primarily in right field for the Mets where he has displayed a powerful throwing arm and above average range when healthy.

“When healthy” is the key phrase where Starling Marte is concerned.  He was a key component of a 101-win season in 2022 but when he went down with an injury in the last month of the season, the Mets slumped their way to a disappointing finish.  In 2023, Marte was less than healthy all season, having had abdominal surgery in the off-season that never really healed before he began playing.  

The result was the weakest season of his career with a .248 batting average and .635 OPS (both career lows).  He flashed some of his skills in 2024, particularly during the team’s late season run, but he also took some plays off and finished below his career averages in average, OBP, and OPS.  A skilled outfielder with a .269 batting average is a positive for just about any team, but the most troubling trend is Marte’s availability.  He played in 145 games in 2018 and his games played have steadily declined each year to less than 100 in 2023 and 2024.  

One of the more relevant statistics for determining player value is WAR.  In Marte’s case where he’s good when healthy the WAR value is particularly telling because you can only accumulate WAR when performing on the field.  In 2024 he contributed 0.6 WAR.  Since every player has their ups and downs, let’s look at a three year span.  Marte’s WAR for the 2022-2024 seasons totals 3.8.  

Marte’s salary for those same seasons totals $53.5M.  That equates to roughly $14M per 1.0 WAR which doesn’t seem to be a good buy.  With a $19.5M salary in 2025, the Mets are paying a lot for just over 1 win.


Jeff McNeil was born April 8, 1992 which will make him 33 years old 11 days after opening day 2025.  Jeff has compiled an equally impressive .289/.353/.430 slash line over an 801 game MLB career.  Like Marte, Jeff is a two-time National League all-star.  He also won a silver slugger award in 2022, the year he won the MLB batting title.

McNeil has meant many things to the Mets over the years.  Not only has he been a great hitter with premier bat-to-ball skills, but he has also shown versatility in the field.  McNeil can play both the infield and the outfield well and has done so many times for the Mets.  

Few players in MLB are capable of playing at McNeil's level in the corner outfield positions and the infield.  This gives the manager the ultimate lineup flexibility because he can switch McNeil during a game to optimize situational substitution.

Age does not seem to have caught up with McNeil in the field, as he played both IF and OF positions well in 2024.  However, his hitting has been very erratic.  In 2021 his batting average plummeted as he tried to add power to his swing.  This recovered quickly in 2022 during his batting title year, but then he regressed in 2023 and that trend continued for the first 3 months of 2024 before he ended the year by hitting .289 after the all-star break.

The erratic hitting makes it difficult to project value into 2025.  Using the WAR method, Jeff earned 9.3 WAR over the last 3 seasons while making $19.5M which yields roughly $2.1M/WAR.  This is a much better figure than Marte.  However, McNeil’s WAR has declined in the past two years and his salary is going up thanks to an extension signed in 2023.  Next season he is on contract to earn $15.75M.

I conclude by acknowledging the difficult job that the front office has during this off-season.  The numbers do not support keeping a Starling Marte on the roster if you are trying to promote youthful talent but it is not easy to unload a $19.5M 37-year old and get much in return.  

With McNeil, one could argue that he still has enough left in the tank to contribute as a utility player, but should not block a LuisAngel Acuna or Jett Williams from proving their abilities in a MLB lineup when they are ready.  


4/18/24

Paul Articulates – What is the exchange rate for Starling?


Yesterday morning Reese wrote about the positive surprises on the Mets this season.  Among his “not too surprising” examples was the resurgence of Starling Marte’s hitting.

Marte seems to be back to physical health after a down season in 2023 when his play appeared to be affected by an incomplete recovery from off-season abdominal surgery.  As of Wednesday night, he was slashing .267/.321/.413 in 82 plate appearances with a trio of homers, six walks, and three stolen bases.

Starling Marte has been a dynamic player for his entire career.  He has won two gold gloves (Pirates 2015, 2016), a Wilson Defensive Player of the Year (Pirates, 2015), and represented the National League twice in the all-star game (Pirates 2016, Mets 2022).  With a career batting average of .287, career OPS of .787, and a 34.6 WAR, he is a very valuable baseball player.  He was a great acquisition for the Mets in 2021.

I will shock you by suggesting that the Mets trade him now. I say, “Sell high”!

What?  Is Paul suggesting that the Mets trade Starling Marte just as he is getting going again?  Does Paul remember what happened in the end of the 2022 season when Marte went down with an injury?  How could this be?

It is true – I believe that the Mets should move Starling now.  He is worth a lot because he can immediately contribute to a team that needs some outfield help.  A trade for Marte could return some pretty impressive pitching prospects or a legitimate battle-tested long reliever.

Why move him?  Well, for one thing the Mets have a gem in fourth outfielder Tyrone Taylor (.297/.341/.432) who can also play great defense and hit.  Taylor is young (just turned 30), and is paid $2.025M, which is much less than Marte’s $19.5M this year and next.  

Marte is 35 going on 36, has had some injury problems, and because of that he seems to have been practicing “selective hustle” in my opinion.  There are balls he just does not go all out for in the outfield and there are at-bats where he just doesn’t get down the baseline on ground balls like he should if his playing time depended on it.  

I will cite two recent cases in point – both in recent games.  A long fly caroms off the wall and ricochets towards the infield.  Rather than sprint after the ball to limit a triple to a double, he gracefully jogs, retrieves, and there is no play.  In another, a fly ball to his left takes a long run, which he does not sprint, and he arrives at the ball with his body in an awkward position leading to a drop and a three-base error.  Could both of those plays have been outs?  

Maybe there is a chance on the first play, definitely on the second one.  I am not accusing him of not trying, but I am observing a guy that used to have awesome speed and motor not making the all-out plays anymore.  Possibly he is a little cautious so he does not hurt something, but I don’t see Bader or Nimmo or Taylor being cautious.  

I have watched Drew Gilbert do a Lenny Dykstra impression in centerfield for the Rumble Ponies last year – the heck with caution, he’s gunning for the major leagues.

Speaking of Gilbert, there are a handful of outfielders in our minor league system that are working their way up quickly that need a shot to show what they can do.  Drew Gilbert is the #2 prospect.  

Jett Williams is the #1 prospect and although he has been playing a lot of infield since joining the franchise, he also started in center field in the Spring Breakout game and told me that he expects to split time between 2B, SS, and CF in Binghamton this year.  

Ryan Clifford, the #4 prospect, has been playing some LF in spring training and he brings a powerful bat to the table.  Alex Ramirez, after a down year, is tearing it up in AA.  Ronny Mauricio will return next year with the ability to play outfield.  You get my drift.

To summarize my position, let me make some clear statements:

1) Starling Marte is a proven high-performance baseball player that right now commands a lot of value.

2) Starling Marte is in his mid-30s, and is showing some signs of losing his edge – maybe physical, maybe mental.

3) The Mets have some well-regarded outfield talent in their minor league system and they have some MLB outfield talent already on the MLB roster – namely Taylor and Jeff McNeil.

4) Starling Marte is being paid $19.5M this year and next, and potential replacements would make between $2M and the MLB minimum salary of around $750k.

So why not sell high?  Get some return for a guy that will only decline from here.  Reduce the luxury tax. This is not 2022, and Marte is not going to be the difference between winning the NL East and falling in the wild card series.  It may be early, but when other teams who may covet a top outfielder like Marte look at the stats they see value.  When I look at the on-field action, I see a hint of decline.  There will never be a better time.  David Stearns knows; Carlos Mendoza knows; do they have the guts to pull the trigger?


8/21/23

Paul Articulates - Shut down Starling


Back in November 2021 as the Mets' front office was re-shaping the team for success, they signed Starling Marte to a four-year, $78 million contract.  Marte, who had posted career-best numbers in the prior season that was split between the Miami Marlins and the Oakland A's, came to the Mets as a speedy outfielder with plus skills in every category.  He could field, throw, hit, hit with power, and run the bases.  

As a Met, Marte had an outstanding 2022 season slashing .295/.345/.458 before the all-star break.  He continued playing well in the second half until injuries took their toll.  His muscular build led to several "pull" injuries, including hamstring, groin, and eventually a core injury that led to off-season surgery.

The 2023 season saw Marte back in action, yet he was not the same.  Rumors were that he had never completely healed and rushed back.  However, his power was gone and his hitting suffered as he couldn't seem to reach certain pitches.  Recently he has been sidelined again, and although his designated time on the injured list has elapsed, he has not returned.  Speculation persists that he has not returned due to a choice to allow him more healing time but it is not clear whether that choice was made by Starling himself or by the Mets staff.

What is not in question is Marte's age.  He still has two years left on his current contract which will pay him $19.5M in 2024 and 2025.  Those will be his age 35 and age 36 seasons.  When a player that leverages speed and power reaches their mid-30's those tools begin to decline, and the wear and tear of a 162 game season accelerates the wear.    There is no doubt that a few more lunging catches, wall crashes, and/or aggressive dives to achieve a stolen base would take its toll.  

In a lost season of team underperformance where the sell-off of stars that would head a playoff run has already occurred, it only makes sense that one would consider saving Starling for next year's run at a title.

So why is there no public acknowledgement of this fact?  It is good business sense in every way, which would be acceptable to the fans.  It allows the Mets to take a long look at DJ Stewart who has found his power stroke (.905 OPS in August) and could find his way into next year's lineup that is currently short one left fielder and a solid DH.

It is my opinion that the Mets should shut down Starling for the year, let him heal properly and start fresh next spring.  Do the readers agree?

5/8/23

Concern level: Mild, Medium or Hot by David Jacks



There’s an old saying in baseball, if you don’t like what’s going on wait a week. For the Mets it’s been a horrible,  no good vey bad week, swept by the lowly Tigers, losing two of three to the Braves, the triple A Nats, and the dreadful rockies. With a 300 plus payroll this is not the start the team, fans or its owner expected. Currently this is thee worst team money could buy,  buuuuuut it’s May. So should there be concern? Or should we just wait a week in this marathon season that is baseball. Let’s have a look at the biggest issues.


Max Scherzer 


Max sits atop the list of players that fans are most concerned with, and for good reason. He’s 38, has a plus 5 era and just got shelled by the light hitting Tigers. Counterargument he was coming off 15 days of rest and never found any sort of rhythm. Counter counter argument, his velocity is down, which makes sense at 38, but suddenly his slider doesn’t seem as worrisome to a hitter when you don’t have to think about a plus fastball. His spin rates are also down, something to watch over a larger sample size. Max is a hall of Famer, a bulldog dedicated to his craft, he deserves some slack, but the concern level has risen to MEDIUM  


The starting staff 


The Mets went from having two aces and the depth of Megill and Peterson behind Senga, Carrasco and Quintana to a struggling ace, one who just debuted, Carrasco who fell of a cliff before getting hurt, Quintana who didn’t make it out of spring, Peterson who couldn’t find the zone and is now toiling in triple A, Senga who’s struggled to locate but has excellent stuff and Megill who’s probably been the most consistent of the bunch (which isn’t saying much). Throw in a middling, but still fairly young Butto, and the staff has been, well awful. 


They lead the league in walks and second to last in quality starts. Good news is Verlander has returned, Carrasco is on his way back (unclear if that’s a positive), and as mentioned you have to think Max will get better. But the Mets staff is a microcosm of the roster, there’s talent, but it’s old. Despite the success of Vasil and Hammel down on the farm, there’s probably no help coming this year in terms of the kids. Concern level: HOT 


Adam Ottavino 


Otto was signed by the Mets in 2022 as a former closer and then set up man who had a nasty frisbee slider and enough juice on his heater to freeze even the best of hitters, but by 2022 he had started to regress. His command was off and he had some rough years with the Yankees and Red Sox, but In 2022 he dominated once again. His command was excellent and his stuff held up, he was thee perfect set up man for Diaz. 


This year he hasn’t dominated the way he did in 2022, and the mets don’t have room for error in what was a deep pen, but is no longer after the Diaz injury. Otto has notoriously struggled as his walk rate has increased but this year it’s relatively low and he’s suffered from some defensive lapses behind him. So while his numbers don’t resemble last years he doesn’t seem to be regressing analytically, but these things have a way of snowballing and with very few other options the concern level is MEDIUM 


Buck Showalter


When a team with lofty expectations struggles out of the gate the manager usually feels the most heat. Buck is masterful with the media and very likable, but he does have his warts. His bullpen usage is questionable at times, he’s loyal to a fault,  but what fans are most concerned with is his usage of the kids. The question is who is making these decisions? Is this on Billy Eppler or Buck himself? Brett Baty should’ve started the year with the big club, 


Vientos can do no more in aaa and Mauricio isn’t far behind. So why stick with the vets? Yes rookies will struggle, see Alvarez, but when the other option is a vet opsing 500 what’s the difference? Why not let the rookie get his feet wet, and develop. Without fully knowing who is making the calls on the kids. (Though Buck does have a track record of sticking with vets) it’s hard to blame him for any of the Mets early season struggles. Concern level: MILD


Francisco Alvarez

All anyone heard about the Mets blue chip catcher is that he needed his glove to rise up to the level of his bat. In his small sample in the majors it’s been the complete opposite. His D has been solid, an excellent frame rate, and his Bat looks like it needs seasoning. He’s a big swinger and that won’t change, but his over aggressive approach has him widening the strike zone. In the majors you just can’t do this, pitchers will get you to chase and unless your Vladimir Guerrero that’s a recipe for the Mendoza line. Still the kid is 21 and his d has been more then adequate. So when the vet behind you is hitting 125 why not keep running the kid out there. Concern level: NONE


Starling Marte 

In the early going Marte was scorching the ball but every ball seemed to find a glove and his early babip backs this up, but as the season has progressed his hard hit numbers have deflated. The biggest worry is his sprint speed has deteriorated. He went from leading the league in stolen bases as an Athletic to being thrown out over 30 percent of his attempts in 22’,  and his defense has taken a nosedive this year. He, like Max, has a long enough reputation where he deserves a much bigger sample size, but there’s reason for concern: MEDIUM 


Mets Bats 

The teams offense has completely browned out. As is often the case every Met seems to be slumping at the same time, outside of Brett Baty. Pete will find his power stroke again, Lindor will hit more consistently and the surrounding pieces will improve. The problem is the Mets have too many surrounding pieces and not enough established stars at the plate. When they are on their game Mcneil and Marte enter that realm but neither are performing up to their standard and as seen above there is some reason for concern with Marte. 


Unlike the starting staff there are some bats down on the farm who could help. Vientos and Mauricio are absolutely raking in aaa. Both give you a feast or famine at bats. Both have a lot of power and their k rates have decreased a tremendous amount this year. The question becomes when will the Mets give them their shot, with guys like Escobar, Pham and Vogelbach (power numbers) struggling that time is coming fast. Concern level: MILD 


The Mets 


Verlander should help stabilize the staff and there’s good reason to believe Max will be better. The lineup is most likely ebbing instead of flowing but that should turn with Baty now contributing and slumps naturally coming to an end, but when you are relying on older players injury and drop-off are a real concern. This team isn't losing to powerhouses, they are getting rocked by the dregs of baseball. Still, this team is too talented to not improve,  If you don’t like what’s going on wait a week, or maybe 3? Concern level: Medium. 


12/1/21

ICYMI: Today's Mets Press Conferences

 


In Case you had to work today and missed the Mets Introductory Press conferences, here are the full press conferences as posted on twitter.  The Mets introduced Max Scherzer, at 1 PM and then Mark Canha, Starling Marte, and Eduardo Escobar at 6 tonight.