1/30/12

Mack and Company and... PLAYOFFS!!!?


Mack:  Bud Seliq said today that "10 out of 30 teams will make the playoffs". Is baseball starting to move a little too close to hockey?

Conrad Youngren:   Well, there aren’t enough fights, :-)

I do think the one-game play-off (if that’s still the plan) between the two WC candidates per league to see who enters the fray with the Division Winners is actually an improvement over the single WC entry.

The hockey (and NFL, NBA) scenario is basically a season long quest to qualify.  Winning your division is nice (particularly in the NFL with a HFA for a single game round), but not paramount.  Over a 162 game season, it is hard to argue that a division winner isn’t the best team, and that deserves a distinct award in the post season.  With the risk of a single game elimination for a WC, there will be a significant emphasis on winning the division and not settling for a WC.

Charles Thompson  - Well, I don't have a problem with it.  The Cardinals, in their last two championships, have shown that the best regular season teams don't always make for the best short series contenders.  Now, those few teams that might be on the fringes of greatness, have a chance to prove that over a short span of games, their built for greater success.  The best teams don't always win.  This is baseball, where on any given day, the underdog wins.  Tell you what, say the Mets squeak into the playoffs with that last spot; I wouldn't complain.  Pretty sure, with this new way of setting up the post season, the Mets would have made the playoffs in '07 & '08.  That might have added a championship to this franchise.  I'm all for it.  What I don't want, is interleague play every day, which come 2013 seems like a reality.  That, to me, defeats the whole purpose of having separate leagues.

Michael Freire - I don't mind a few more playoff teams, but I am not a fan of the one game playoff between the first and second wildcard team(s).   Both squads will throw their ace since it is a win or go home game.   It just weakens the winner a little bit, since they have to open with the best team in a longer series, a few days later, without their best pitcher.
On the plus side, the Mets would have made a bunch more playoff appearances, if this system were in place from the middle 1980's forward, to include the "collapse" year(s).   Overall, I like more playoff teams, I wish the wildcard playoff game, was more of a series.


Christopher Soto - As a Mets fan I think its great!! Solely because of how difficult our division has become. As a baseball fan I am also pleased. Baseball has always been the most difficult sport to get into the playoffs for. Before these changes the playoff acceptance rate was a meager 26.66% of the teams. With the 2 additional  WC's  the new rate is 33.33% of the teams.

When you compare this to other major sports, the MLB will continue to be the most difficult sport to enter the playoffs for however it gives fans of other teams more hope that they will get a chance. I still personally think that a suitable game format for playoffs would be 1-3-5-7 (1 WC play-in, 3 divisional games, 5 league championship games, 7 World Series games) that way we're not playing in November anymore.

Baseball      10 of 30 teams    33.33%
Football       12 of 30 teams    40%
Basketball   16 of 30 teams    53.33%
Hockey        16 of 30 teams    53.33%

Mack Ade - I May Be Wrong, But… PP’s Mets Prospects, 2nd Wild Card Team, TPA and MaxiPrep Links, Draft Sunday, MLB Draft Guild



· Project Prospect came out with their top 100 baseball prospects and, like the rest of the expert projections, there are three Mets on the list. RHP Matt Harvey is 26th (up from 48th), RHP Zack Wheeler came in at #32 (up from 45th) and RHP Jeurys Familia was 73rd (previously unranked). Three prospects, in 100 picks, with 30 teams, are just below the average and, in my opinion, is exactly where this team stands. Jenrry Mejia would be listed if he didn’t get hurt. But at this point in the growth of all the other prospects, against the quality of players on other teams, the Mets have three top prospects only.

· Ronald Blum of The Associated Press interviewed Bud Selig Saturday night and Selig said the following about a second wild card team in each league:

"I really believe we'll have the wild card for 2012, this year clubs really want it. I don't think I've ever seen an issue that the clubs want more than to have the extra wild card this year. We're working on dates right now. That'll all take place. It looks to me like we'll have it because I've told everybody we have to have it. It'll be exciting. One-game playoff, it will start the playoffs in a very exciting manner."

I like playoff baseball. Sometimes I feel like you can’t have enough of it, but I don’t want baseball to someday adopt the NHL formula. How can I hate wild card teams? I’m a New York Giants fan.


· We’ve added a few information centers on the left side columns of the site:

o Top Prospect Alert’s top 15 prospects for every baseball team are listed and linked. All you have to do is click on the team and it will take you to the TPA page.
o MaxiPrep’s Pre-Season All-American team is also listed and linked. Click on the name of the player and it will take you to their page, so you can keep track of how they are doing in their senior year.

·       I’ve done a little re-programming here. Sunday is going to be dedicated exclusively to the draft and high school and college-eligible draft players. Stephen Guilbert will start off each Sunday morning (8:00am) with his weekly draft post, followed by guest posts from people like Jeff Reese of Bullpen Banter, writers from other major league team blogs, and yours truly.

20% of the people that come to Mack’s Mets come solely here because of the draft coverage and they deserve their own day. For those of you that do dig it: Please spread the word about “Draft Sunday.” 

Lastly, a very good guy (Matt Grabusky) who runs an excellent site   (http://mlbdraftguide.com/), got really fucked last week. Someone hacked into his site and Matt lost absolutely everything.

Please check into the site and offer Matt any info you have that he can use to rebuid his site.

Michael Scannell - Looking Ahead to 2014

The 2012 season is getting closer and as Met fans, we have been told to ignore this year (and the next) in the hopes of brighter seasons in the future.

As a fan, although I am not giving up on 2012 because I think there are a lot of potential bright spots, I'm inclined to take management at their word that the team will not be in a position of serious contention for another two years. With that in mind, I've decided to piece together a 'status update' of sorts on how the 2014 roster is shaking out.

I'm going to stick to players currently in the system, keep a running tab on how they're doing and how the system needs are materializing going forward. I'll update it from time to time, but certainly when there is player movement that warrants a change in perspective regarding the future Met roster. I've decided to focus on the Core 13 - Everyday Lineup and Starter Rotation - as opposed to a full 25-man roster, which would include the bench and bullpen. Both are in flux from year to year and it would be silly to try and pin down the support players two seasons from now.

I've listed the players likely to start and added an "In the Mix" section below that for players who profile as potential major league players. As time goes on, players will likely cycle themselves in and out of the mix. Some players, such as Jordany Valdespin, Matt Den Dekker, Jennry Mejia and Jeurys Familia, might wind up in the Core 13 instead of the players I have listed right now. As of now, I see the Core 13 as being:

CA - ???
1B - Ike Davis
2B - Reese Havens
SS - Ruben Tejada
3B - David Wright
OF - Kirk Nieuwenhuis
OF - ???
OF - ???

SP1 - ???
SP2 - ???
SP3 - Matt Harvey
SP4 - Jon Niese
SP5 - Zack Wheeler (R)

IN THE MIX
C - Josh Thole
IF - Lucas Duda, Jordany Valdespin, Aderlin Rodriguez
OF - Matt Den Dekker, Gilbert Gomez, Cesar Puello, Cory Vaughn, Juan Lagares
P - Jenrry Mejia, Jeurys Familia, Dillon Gee, Darin Gorski, Erik Goeddel, Greg Peavey, Logan Verrett, Cory Mazzoni, Tyler Pill, Pedro Beato

-I've left Lucas Duda out of the Core 13 for now, as I am skeptical of his ability to handle the defensive duties in the OF over a 162-game season. I have him in the mix as a first baseman, as I feel that that is his long-term destiny and that he may emerge as an alternative to Davis. For now I'm giving the edge to Ike, but I feel that the future roster will include one or the other. Of course, this can change over time if Duda proves himself a competent outfielder.

- Although I don't think Josh Thole is a long-term option at catcher I have him in the mix, as I think there is still room for improvement and he may surprise.

- I don't really expect that David Wright will be here in 2014. My feeling is that by the end of this season, the Mets will have created a hole at third base while filling one or two of the their other needs. For now, he is here and I'm projecting him to be here. There are also too many variables in trying to predict what return the Mets will get for him and what other positions could be filled in the event he is traded.

- I left recent high school draftees like Brandon Nimmo and Philip Evans off the list because I don't think they will be ready to start full-time by 2014.

- I have Harvey and Wheeler in the back of the rotation due to their inexperience. Although both pitchers have ceilings of SP1-2, I doubt either will have matured to that level by 2014. I also don't think it would be prudent for likely or the organization to put all of the their eggs in the basket of pitchers entering their second and first full major league seasons, respectively. Niese is at SP4 because I think his ceiling is SP3 and better to slot a pitcher lower than his potential in order to have an advantage every time out.

- Most of the 'In the Mix' pitchers listed (sans Mejia and Familia) profile as either back of the rotation starters or relievers. I included them because they could climb up to take SP4 or SP5 in the rotation, especially if the more highly touted players don't pan out. Also, although I'm not including a projected bullpen, it's nice to have an eye out for the pitchers who will likely fill some of those spots.

When looking at the eight players currently in-house who have a good chance being part of the Core 13, there is reason to hope for the future. As of now, that lineup could shake out with

1. ???? OF
2. Tejada SS
3. ???? OF
4. Davis 1B
5. Wright 3B
6. Havens 2B
7. ???? Ca
8. Nieuwenhuis OF

Overall, between that lineup and the three rotation spots, the payroll (excluding bullpen and bench) would likely stand somewhere around $20-$25 million with the majority of it taken up by Wright's salary. If he is traded, the total will be significantly less. That leaves the front office two years and a lot of breathing room in terms of salary to add an outfielder who can lead off, an outfielder who can hit in the middle of the order, a catcher, and two top of the rotation pitchers.

Frank Gray - Daniel Murphy: A little faith can go a long way


Photo by Mack Ade
The New York Mets have searched for a second baseman for two years. That includes the final year of Luis Castillo's tenure in Queens. They have tried Justin Turner, Chin Lung Hu, Ruben Tejada and Daniel Murphy among others. Of these players, Tejada and Murphy stood out. Turner has becomes a fan favorite as well.

With the departure of Jose Reyes, the Mets will be filling the void at short stop with Tejada. That leaves Turner and Murphy to pick up the slack at second base. Last season, Murphy impressed with his bat (.320 AVG, 6 HR and 49 RBI) but not his glove (10 errors). The exact opposite can be said for Turner (.260 AVG, 4 HR and 51 RBI). Both were counted on to fill in for multiple positions.

There have been reports that the Mets will be sticking with Murphy as the starter, there has been a collective cry of outage from the fanbase for the most part.  This begs an important question. Why? Did he make far too many errors and a few base-running blunders last season? Sure. Is he the first to do so while playing multiple positions? Absolutely not!

There have been examples of players that started off their careers on a bad note in the field and settled into their roles to become solid players. One example was written over the weekend by Mack's Mets friend and Mets360 blogger Brian Joura. He compares Murphy to Lou Piniella early in his playing career. It's astounding how similar the numbers are.

He committed seven errors in his first full season, while Murphy had 10. He had a .290 AVG with 22 HR and 302 hits in his first 300 games. When compared to Murphy during that same stretch, it's a difference of one hit, two points in the AVG and two home runs in 11 fewer at bats for Murphy. Piniella was a one time All-Star and a Rookie of the Year award winner that played 18 seasons and had a career .291 AVG. For me, however, Sweet Lou is a gauge of Murphy's minimum potential.

Another higher benchmark may be Ryan Sandberg. Believe it or not, Sandberg's numbers through his first 300 games are nearly identical to Daniel Murphy. Through Sandberg's first two full seasons, he played three different position and had 25 errors. That is not a typo.

He had just 15 HR, 102 RBI and a .265 AVG in 314 games combined between the two seasons. As everyone knows, the following year, he won the MVP award and went on to a Hall of Fame career. By comparison, Murphy has had 20 HR, 129 RBI and a .292 AVG in 313 games.

Am I saying Murphy is destined for this greatness? Not at all. But I am saying he is capable settling into his role as a second baseman and using his bat to outweigh his glove. Like Sandberg, Murphy's glove will come around. Will he win a Gold Glove nine times like Ryan Sandberg? Probably not, but the point is he could become a reliable fielder as well.

The Cubs and their fans gave Sandberg a chance. They showed faith in him and he made that faith pay off. The Mets and our fans need to do the same with Murphy. He is more than capable of taking the reigns of the second base position for the next decade if they show him faith now.

He may not develop into a Hall of Fame candidate like Ryan Sandberg, but he may be better than Lou Piniella in his playing days. Only time will tell, but the Mets need to show dedication to him in order to give him that chance to blossom into his potential. If they do, he may make that faith in him pay off ten fold for the organization.

Michael Friere - What Now, Frank and Jon?

A few weeks ago, I started a new series titled “What Now”? The plan is to highlight a specific Mets player (or in this case, two players) that could play an important role during the 2012 season. However, due to a variety of reasons, their future is questionable at best.
Last week’s installment focused on “the face of the franchise,” David Wright. While David’s future is still pretty bright, he is a question mark with regards to how well he is going to play from this point forward, not to mention WHERE he is going to play in the future.
This week, I want to look at two of the newest Mets, Jon Rauch and Frank Francisco. Obviously, the Mets are a bit hamstrung due to financial issues involving ownership. That has led to an unusually quiet offseason, despite the fact that the current Mets roster still has a few holes to fill. Sandy Alderson was able to address the back end of the bullpen by importing two former closers in Rauch and Francisco.
Let’s start with Rauch, since he is most likely ticketed for the seventh or eighth inning, at least from the outset.
Rauch, who is a couple inches short of seven feet tall and almost three hundred pounds, will pitch the 2012 season as a 33 year old, right handed relief pitcher. (With that size, you would think that his true calling should have been the National Basketball Association as opposed to Major League Baseball.) One of the odd things about Rauch is that he does not throw especially hard despite his physical gifts. That and the fact that he also looks like he would be equally at home on a Harley Davidson taking a road trip with the Sons of Anarchy, but I digress.
Looking at his baseball statistics, Jon’s career started in 2002 (minus the 2003 season which he spent in the minor leagues) and has been spent primarily as a relief pitcher. Over that time period, he has pitched for quite a few teams as a middle reliever, as well as few brief stints as a closer.
In nine seasons, Jon has pitched a total of 520.7 innings (approximately 58 innings per year), with a record of 39-31 and 58 saves. In addition, he also posted a WHIP of 1.25 and 7.2 strikeouts per nine innings pitched, while registering approximately 6 WAR. Pretty solid numbers overall, when you consider that he moved around quite a bit and filled a variety of roles.
What is a bit concerning is that the past two seasons have been considerably worse then his career averages, although he did pitch in the American League with the Designated Hitter for those two seasons, after spending a majority of the previous seven years in the National League.
I know, those numbers do not jump off the page and they are certainly nothing to get overly excited about. For my money, I want a bullpen that keeps people off base and can get a strikeout when necessary. Jon does not do either of those things extremely well. But, what are we really talking about for 2012?
The Mets are paying Rauch 3.5 million dollars for 2012 on a one year deal. In exchange, he will be expected to be a “veteran” reliever who will be counted on to fill a middle to late inning role, with the occasional save opportunity. Can he do that for the Mets? I think so and he is an upgrade for that role, compared to what was available out of the bullpen in 2011. I would be generally happy if he came close to his career averages and the Mets did not ask him to do any more then that.
Moving on to Frank Francisco, we are also moving on from a probable middle relief role to the early favorite to close games for the Mets in 2012.
Frank, who is “only” six feet two inches tall and 250 pounds, will pitch the 2012 season as a 32 year old righthander. The Mets signed him to a two-year deal worth $12 million to fill the void in the ninth inning. There also seems to be a bit of baggage with Frank, regarding his temper and a few well publicized altercations with fans and ... perhaps a folding chair?
For starters, I don’t mind my closer having a mean streak. Hell, if he is a bit crazy on top of that, it can be helpful when he takes the mound in the ninth inning with the game on the line. I want the opposing batter to be nervous and unsure of what to expect.
But, scaring the crap out of someone only goes so far. Your closer still needs to be able to throw strikes, keep runners off base and to save ballgames. The question with Frank is can he be a consistent closer, or will his inconsistencies and his potential attitude issues keep him from being successful?
Statistically speaking, Frank has been a reliever his entire career, which has spanned seven seasons mostly in Texas and most recently in Toronto. His career started in 2004, took a small detour in 2005 and most of 2006, before resuming in 2007. He has averaged 68 innings pitched with a 4-4 record and 10 saves, for every 162 games played. Additionally, he also posted an average WHIP of 1.29, while averaging 9.9 strikeouts per nine innings and 5.6 WAR.
OK, so that doesn’t sound much different then Jon Rauch’s stats, right? On the surface, I would agree. But the one statistic that jumps off the page, compared to Rauch’s statistics, is the ability to strike out the opposing batter. Frank can post K’s, to the tune of over one per inning, which has been pretty consistent over his entire career. That is why Terry Collins will use Rauch in middle relief and Francisco in the ninth inning.
So, what do we expect for 2012? I prefer to look at the end of Frank’s 2011 season for a potential preview of 2012. Frank was “lights out” for the Blue Jays in 2011 down the stretch. In 17 appearances between August 4th and the end of the year, Frank threw 18 innings and only allowed three runs, while striking out 16 batters and saving six games for a bad Blue Jays club. That equates to an ERA of 1.50 and a WHIP of 0.94, which are elite level numbers for a closer. The key for Frank, especially during the end of season run of success, was control. The major difference in his WHIP was only issuing four walks during that time period.
While I don’t expect Frank to be quite that good, I think if the Mets use him properly (one-inning stints), he can be quite effective (control permitting) and help stabilize the end of games, which was a huge issue last year.
Best case scenario, Rauch and Francisco (paired with the rest of the revamped bullpen) should be able to consistently hold leads and close out games IF the starting rotation can get them the opportunities. I view both of them as solid signings who will be effective "place holders" for a season or two, until the next wave of pitching talent starts to reach Citi Field from the minor leagues.
Plus, the better they perform in 2012, the more valuable they become as potential trade chips late in the season.
Random Thought
What the heck were the Tigers thinking? Sure, Prince Fielder is a nice offensive addition, but he is a below average defensive player with serious conditioning issues. Ignoring the 200+ million dollar deal for a second, do you expect him to be the same all around player by the middle and the end of the nine year deal?
Plus, that pushes Miguel Cabrera back to third base! UGH! I wonder what Justin Verlander and the rest of the excellent Tiger pitching staff think of those two corner infielders from a defensive standpoint? It may resemble a Wednesday night, slow pitch softball game.
I miss the Mets being more aggressive in the offseason, but avoiding "train wreck" signings like this is one benefit of fiscal sanity.

The Keepers - #5 - 2B - Reese Havens


5.             2B Reese Havens


Havens was drafted in the 1st round of the 2008 draft by the Mets. He signed days later which included a $1.4mil signing bonus.



MLB.com’s comments on draft day:



Hitting Ability: Havens has improved over time as a hitter and makes good contact with a very patient approach.



Power: Excellent bat speed does generate some pop and he could hit 10-15 homers, maybe 15-20 at best.



Running Speed: He's a well below-average runner.



Base running: Very alert on the bases and armed with good instincts, he won't hurt you.



Arm Strength: He's got a plus arm at short.



Fielding: He catches the ball well when he gets to it.



Range: His range is restricted because of his lack of foot speed. Some feel he'll have to move to third.



Physical Description: Havens is really put together with a strong, athletic body. 



Medical Update: He had a sprained thumb in the fall, but he's 100 percent now.



Strengths: A good approach at the plate with the ability to make solid contact; good knowledge of how to play the game.



College Stats on Havens:  359 BA/.486 OBP/.645 SLG%/ 248 AB, 76 R, 89 H, 13 doubles, 2 triples, 18 HR, 58 BB-44 K, 13 E in 66 games, .953 FPCT



Recent Scouting Report:  Summation: Swing mechanics and theories towards what makes up “the best swing” are very diverse. But, there are many standards that I like to think are pretty constant when it comes to making a good stroke. That is why I chose to examine Reese Havens first. What you see in the video, and in the photos is a very refined hitter with a polished swing. He has some small flaws here and there and other things go into make a good hitter besides mechanics of his swing, but it is a good place to start. Havens’ stroke is built to spray line drives to the gaps and to all parts of the field. I’d be quite surprised if that polish doesn’t easily carry him to a big league career.



From Keith Law on Draft Day: - This is a great pick for the Mets. He makes all the plays at shortstop because he reads the ball off the bat so well. At the plate he has excellent pitch recognition and hand-eye coordnation. If he has to move to second base because of the presence of Jose Reyes at shortstop, he has more than enough bat. Havens has a great approach and instincts, and he should move quickly through the Mets' system.



From Kevin Goldstein (BP) on Draft Day: - I actually kinda like this pick. He's got some pop, he's got some holes in his swing, but he's a monster makeup kid who could move quickly, and is probably now the Mets 2B of the future



From Adam Rubin the day after the draft: - Havens, born during the 1986 World Series, hit .259 as a freshman and .274 as a sophomore in the Southeastern Conference, but took off after shortening his swing under the tutelage of Mike Roberts (the Orioles’ Brian Roberts’ father) while hitting .315 in the prestigious wood-bat Cape Cod League. Havens hit .359 with 18 homers and 57 RBI in 63 games this season for the Gamecocks. The Mets’ recent philosophy has been to keep shortstops and center fielders at their natural positions until they’re close to the big leagues, including Fernando Martinez remaining in center field, but there already was draft-day speculation Havens could be converted to catcher, which he’s never played, or second base. Havens was considered a potential first-round pick out of high school, and the Red Sox were prepared to draft him 26th overall in 2005, but he was seeking a reported $1.7 million signing bonus - and Boston’s offer would have been $1.35 million. With teams shying away, he dropped to a 29th-round pick by the Rockies and instead headed to South Carolina.



SNY the day after the draft: - I love the Reese Havens pick. This is not a guy I expected Omar Minaya to pick, as he’s been leaning more toward tools and Havens plays much greater than the sum of his parts. He is not an athlete, per se, but definitely a baseball player. Through hard work and smarts, he proved capable at short and may even project there, but not on the Mets. Some teams, including the Red Sox, were rumored to want to move him to catcher. Havens, according to the reports Thursday, was not enthused about that switch. Perhaps it’s still in the cards for the Mets. He’ll sport a plus-lefty bat no matter where he ends up, but expect it to be second base for New York. This year at South Carolina, Reese had a .485 OBP/.628 SLG/1.113 OPS, walking 19 percent of the time.



ScoutingBook.com ranked Havens as the 262nd top prospect: -  A successful shortstop in college whose range is a bit of a question in pro ball, South Carolina graduate David Havens could make a heck of a second baseman for a future Mets infield that already includes two All Stars and the player picked just before him in the 2008 Draft, first baseman Ike Davis. A solid line drive hitter with plus plate discipline, Havens could be a long-term keystone for New York



In June 2008, BA did a post-draft adjustment of their top 10 Mets prospects and Havens was ranked #3, with the comments: “more likely a third baseman or possibly a catcher, stands out with approach and pop. “



Braunstein on Havens: - .  22 Reese Havens SS Sullivans Island, SC  U. South Carolina - Again wonder why the Mets took him. Doesn’t have speed, a little bit of pop so not your prototype 2B. The same Ps that the Mets could have selected instead of Ike Davis were still around here. Wore #6 in college.  High School - played for Mike Darnell. Parents are Brent & Nancy. Mom graduated from U. South Carolina. Is a sports & entertainment major. Named ABCA & BA 2005 HS All-American. Played in 2005 HS All-Am. Game. 2005 S. Carolina AA POTY. 2004 & 5 SC AA All-State team. 2005 HS team were AA state champions. P Was drafted 29th ‘05 by COL. Was taken so late because of his strong commitment to USC.  BA says has playing smarts but may have to move to 3B because of lack of range. Makes good contact with a patient approach. Has a plus arm. Swing is pretty compact. Doesn’t wait for the ball to get to him so pro Ps could take advantage of that and limit his batting avg to unacceptable levels. Looks like a hard-nosed player and may just work his way to the ML.



In late July 2008, ProjectProspect.com updated their top 10 Mets prospect list and Havens was ranked 3rd.



In 2008, due to injuries, Havens was used exclusively as a DH, at Brooklyn, going .247/.340/.471, with 3 HRs and only 11 RBIs in 23 games.



February 2009:  MWOB on: - 2008 Top Pick:  -  Reese Havens SS - Reese signed for a little over $1.4 million.  He doesn’t quite have the pop of Ike Davis, but he sent three more over the wall than Ike.  His slugging percentage was .471 even though his batting average was a few points less than Davis.  Reese will be more of a gap hitter.  The Mets didn’t see a lot from him defensively, as groin and elbow problems limited him to DH.  There are some that think his foot speed and first step quickness will not be adequate to stick at short and a move to second will be in his future.  But since he wasn’t given much of a chance to show his stuff this year, the Mets will give him an opportunity to field the position next year.  At least he has no less range than Mets super prospect Wilmer Flores.  He does have great makeup and has the intangibles to succeed whereever he is placed.



In March 2009, Rotoworld ranked the Mets Top 10 Prospect: - 5. Reese Havens - SS - DOB: 10/20/86 - ETA: Aug. 2010 -  .247/.340/.471, 3 HR, 11 RBI, 27/11 K/BB, 3 SB in 85 AB (SS-A Brooklyn) -  An elite performer in college, Havens hit .359/.486/.645 as Justin Smoak's teammate at South Carolina last season. No one saw him as a long-term shortstop, so it was thought he might fall out of the first round of the draft. The Mets, though, took him at No. 22 with the intention of grooming him as a second baseman. Havens hit plenty of homers in college, but he figures to be more of a doubles guy in the pros. He'll both hit for average and draw walks, so if he can deliver 35-40 doubles per year, he has a chance to be a very valuable offensive player. He should begin to move quickly this season.





2009 was an interesting year. On the down side, he only hit .247, but produced 14 home runs, which tied him for 6th in the league. His .422 slugging percentage ranked him11 th in the league and his .784 OPS put him in 10th place.



Forecast:  Nothing but blue sky, now that he has changed to second base. Havens goes from the 3rd, maybe 4th SS prospect, to the #1 slot for 2B, and gives the Mets potential pop at that position. Look for some additional errors this coming season in Binghamton, but, as long as the bat produced, this will be your Mets second baseman in 2012.



2-1-10:  - Reese Havens – most prospect pundits still have Havens as the top second base prospect in the organization, but I need to see one more season out of him before I place him higher on my list. So far, he hasn’t hit for average, though he is showing potential pop. Also, a little more defense won’t hurt either. His future as a Mets may be similar to guys like Dustin Martin.

5-17-10: - Stock up: Havens was promoted to Binghamton after Friday night’s game for St. Lucie. The former first round draft pick is no longer kicking the ball around at short and has become a full time second baseman, in hopes of getting to Queens after Luis Castillo’s contract runs out after the 2011 season. No one is going to ever award Havens a Gold Glove, but did play A+ this season with zero errors in the field.In addition, his bat is coming around… at Lucy this year: .281/.369/.509/.878, 3-HRs in 57-AB. Look, Havens should be at AA and the rest of this season will be a good test for him. He also will fit in well with a lineup of Nieuwenhuis, Evans, and Lutz. No pitching around here.

5-24-10: - Stock up: Havens was promoted to Binghamton after Friday night’s game for St. Lucie. The former first round draft pick is no longer kicking the ball around at short and has become a full time second baseman, in hopes of getting to Queens after Luis Castillo’s contract runs out after the 2011 season. No one is going to ever award Havens a Gold Glove, but did play A+ this season with zero errors in the field.In addition, his bat is coming around… at Lucy this year: .281/.369/.509/.878, 3-HRs in 57-AB. Look, Havens should be at AA and the rest of this season will be a good test for him. He also will fit in well with a lineup of Nieuwenhuis, Evans, and Lutz. No pitching around here.

6-7-10: - Reese Havens hit another home run Sunday, his sixth in in Binghamton and ninth for the season. The 2011 battle for second base is starting to get very interesting, especially if Ruben Tejada plays the position well in Queens during the period he is there. I still think Tejada has a good shot at replacing Jose Reyes at short, simply because 2011 is Reyes last year, the Mets have an option to get out at 500K, and, most important, he’s one of the only players on the team that could warrant a one-for-one trade for an Oswalt-type starter. I’m not calling for a Reyes trade, but a team can’t win in this sport without a dominant starting rotation. Santana and Pelfrey aren’t enough.

6-12-10: -  Reese Havens was removed from the Binghamton game last night in the second inning for "soreness"... manager Tim Tuefel told a reporter that he's had this problem before, which makes one wonder if this is related to him oblique strain that kept him out earlier this season. Right now, he is listed day-to-day.

6-21-10: - Havens was placed on the 7-day disabled list Sunday for soreness in his left obique. This is the same oblique that put him on the DL earlier this season, so it’s obvious that things aren’t healed yet. I have been told that this new hiccup is just that, a small set-back; however, I would hope that the Mets sit the boy down until he is fully healed this time. This, of course, may not be the Mets fault and the player could have sent the wrong signs to the trainer. It looks like Havens has a bright future with the Mets and he’s not part of any trade package, so let him heal, even if it takes the rest of the season.

8-31-10 - 2011 Forecast: - Look, whether this kid is playing or on the DL, he's the number one prospect second baseman in the organization. Injuries are injuries. Some are natural, and others happen when someone takes you out on a double play ball. Just because Strasburg is being operated on, doesn't make him the best prospect pitcher in baseball. That being said, it would be nice if Havens stopped trying to be like F-Mart.  Havens only had 125 at bats in 2010 (between St. Lucie and Binghamton), but they were impressive: .312/.386/.592/.978, 9-HR, 19-RBI. Project those numbers over a full season and you have an all-star. His latest injury is a nagging one, but shouldn't impede his growth. I do expect him to play winter ball, probably Hawaii, and there's a good chance he will compete for the Mets second base job, against Ruben Tejada, in spring training. Otherwise, expect him in Buffalo in 2011.

2-14-11: - The mystery of the disappearance of Reese Havens has finally been exposed by Adam Rubin. Seems Havens had rib surgery about eight weeks ago. Dr. James Andrews shaved some bone off of one rib that was irritating Reese’s obligue. Havens says he’ll be ready for spring training. Remember, the only thing that is preventing him from starting in Queens is his health. Trust me, if he plays big in Buffalo this year, the Daniel Murphy experiment at second base could end around September.

3-19-11: - Down: - 2B – Reese Havens -  word from the camp is that Havens has not played an inning of spring training yet. This doesn’t fair well for his chances of starting the season for Buffalo. This guy just doesn’t seem to heal well.  Looks like Justin Turner, who has options left, will start for the Bisons.

3-24-11: - Down: - 2B - Reese Havens -  word comes down fro ST that Havens will not be assigned to Binghamton come opening day. Instead, he will remain back in extended camp still attempting to heal from last year's injuries. Not a great sign

4-25-11: - My sources tell me that we may see very little, if any, play time this year from 2B Reese Havens. Boy, I hope I’m wrong about this one. Havens has had a hard time recovering from surgery because, frankly, he is the first baseball player to have ever had this surgery. Havens had Dr. James Andrew (how old is this dude?) shave off around an inch of one of his ribs. The problem was called “Rib-Tip Syndrome”. My source said it best:  “You can’t put a timetable on recovery for something you have no history.”

6-4-11: - A real good sign down in Binghamton is what 2B Reese Havens has been doing since returning to the lineup this season. Last night, he went 3-5, raising his Binghamton batting average to .292. There’s never been a question regarding whether Havens can hit. He’s had a hard time staying healthy, but his injuries have not been career threatening. I’d like to see him finish the season in Buffalo so he can get on to Queens next year, but the most important thing is for him to stay in the lineup.

7-1-11: - It has come to my attention that the injuries currently preventing 2B Reese Havens from playing are simple back spasms. He  hasn't taken BP or infield since the last home stand. He said he is feeling better and should be back soon.

7-26-11: - http://www.amazinavenue.com/2011/7/26/2287253/mets-mid-term-farm-system-review-2011-binghamton#storyjump - 2B Reese Havens - STOCK DOWN - As has become custom, Havens spent a lot of time on the DL during the first half of the 2011 season. Initially, he began the year nearly two months late as the team had him on a slow timetable for return from an offseason rib surgery meant to alleviate his nagging oblique problems. After 25 games back with Bingo Havens once again succumbed to injury, though this time it was a back problem unrelated to the meddlesome oblique. Nothing has changed here. When he plays, he looks like an impact player who could easily join Ike and Niese as part of the new wave of cornerstone players. Except he doesn't always play. As we've seen with Fernando Martinez, the more that happens the less we can assume it will stop happening.

8-6-11: - Stock Up – I can’t seem to make up my mind about this guy. First, I hated the draft pick then I fell in love with his game. Now, once or twice a year he gets hot and I get excited, which is usually followed by some leg or back injury. He’s on a tear again. Had three hits, home run, double last night. .351 in the last 10 days. Havens turns 25 in October. It’s time.

8-6-11: - http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20110806/SPORTS/108060317/0/SPORTS02/Healthy-Havens-trying-to-get-back-on-track-for-Mets - Havens, a 6-foot-1 195-pound square-jawed native of Sullivan's Island, S.C., played in just 152 professional games coming into this season. Injuries to his elbow, hand, groin, quadriceps, oblique and back marred his first three minor-league seasons. Despite the injuries, Havens' offensive prowess continues to impress the Mets. The left-handed hitting Havens has shown the ability to hit for average and power, and a willingness to take walks. Before this season (23 games in short-season Single-A Brooklyn in 2008, 97 in Single-A St. Lucie in 2009, 14 in St. Lucie in 2010, and 18 in Binghamton in 2010), Havens hit .261 with 29 doubles, 26 home runs, 82 RBIs, 80 walks, and a .363 on-base percentage

8-11-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/baseball-americas-mets-top-10-list-prior-to-2011-where-are-they-now.html - 2B – Reese Havens: Another injury riddled season by the second baseman. He has a world of potential, but can not stay on the the field. With the injuries to Murphy, he may have had a shot to be playing in Flushing to finish this season had he not been behind the eight ball already.  He is heating up lately, and could prompt a promotion to Triple-A before the year is out. Started 2011: Double-A  Currently: Double-A

8-21-11: - Observation -  #12 – Reese Havens – 2B – This is the closest thing the Mets have to a marriage of the good parts of Ruben Tejada and Daniel Murphy. He’s good enough in the field and is a professional bat. His only problem has been staying healthy due to a series of unlucky field injures that have left him with back/leg problems. He has only been cleared to play every day this week and yet he’s still hitting around .300. My hope is they let him sit through winter ball and place him on some lower body strengthening program. Then, play him at second base in Buffalo and target him for 2013. I still believe he’s the Mets best long term option at second. - ETA: Opening day, 2013



8-21-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/prospect-pulse-left-handed-hitters.html - Reese Havens - Since the Mets made Havens their second, 1st round pick in the 2008 draft (after Ike Davis, and 22nd overall), everybody has heard what a great hitter this guy is. Many call him the second coming of Rogers Hornsby. There’s just been two problems with Havens so far. First he couldn’t stay at his native position of shortstop, because of his lack of range and foot speed, so he was moved to 2B at the start of 2010. Second, he can’t stay on the field, he is constantly injured and has averaged only 50 games, and 186 AB’s per season over his four minor league seasons. He has a lifetime .269/.367/.460 slash line, which shows some promise and pop, for a second baseman. If only he can stay on the field, the numbers say he could be something special.



8-31-11: - http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/33468/farm-report-havens-delayed-not-deterred  - Havens has had setbacks this year. Irritation from suspected scar tissue forced a late start to the season. And he landed on the DL with back trouble this year, although Havens believes that may be related to the original issue, since his offseason was spent idle and then rehabbing without any baseball activity. Now, though, he has been back with Binghamton for more than a month and issue-free. “Dr. Andrews and Dr. Clancy did the surgery on me. I was real confident in their opinion and what they thought the problem was,” Havens said. “I was also confident that it fixed it because I could tell pretty immediate results once I got all the inflammation out of there and started working out again. Everybody knows that scar tissue is part of surgery. That’s what got me in spring training. I didn’t work out this past (offseason). All I did was rehab to get back to where I didn’t feel the side, and started doing some baseball stuff once I got down to Florida. So I definitely think it’s what it was. But I don’t feel it at all now. It’s gone.”



9-3-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/prospect-pulse-buffalo-2012-help-on-the-way.html -

Reese Havens - Havens will be embroiled in a fierce competition for the Mets 2B job in 2012. If they manage to retain Jose Reyes, the inside edge for 2B goes to Ruben Tejada, with Justin Turner, Daniel Murphy, Jordany Valdespin, and Havens all vying for the job. On natural ability and a balanced game, Havens may be the best baseball player here. His sweet left-handed stroke, is ideal for not just hitting, but hitting for power. And being a natural shortstop, he has made a fairly seamless transition to 2B. He just needs to stay healthy in order to open some eyes, and he could force his way into the picture anytime in 2012.




In 2008, the Mets had two first-round picks. The first went to current Mets star Ike Davis. The other went to Mets top prospect Reese Havens. The Mets have been very thin at second base for as long as this decade can show, and their long-term solution is absolutely found in Reese Havens. The South Carolina stud would have ideally been called up to the show by now, but injuries have created setbacks for him as many have praised his well-rounded approach at the plate.



9-17-11: - Reese Havens (Mets first-round pick in 2008): The second baseman, taken four picks after Ike Davis, has suffered through one injury after another practically since the day he was drafted after playing every single game of his career at South Carolina. But it would be a stunner if the Mets chose not to protect a player that could become their long-term answer at second base as soon as next season. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/yankees_mets_must_make_key_decisions_5aKoxsOfZQzXf4dhd226oK#ixzz1YErc8tpG



9-22-11: - http://projectprospect.com/article/2011/09/22/2011-eastern-league-top-prospects  - Reese Havens, 2B New York Mets - “He really stayed with his approach no matter how we pitched him. I had the opportunity from second base to see how he hit. He got in good counts. We started pitching him away more as the season went on and it’s like he changed his approach. He was fun to watch.” – Eastern League hitter



10-20-11: - http://www.metsblog.com/2011/10/20/toby-hydes-take-on-reese-havens-at-2b - Hey, guess who led Double-A Binghamton in games played at second base? If you had Reese Havens at 51, you win. Havens, who will turn 25 on Thursday, hit .289 with a .372 OBP in 58 games for the B-Mets. He also drew more walks than teammate 2B-SS Jordany Valdespin (27 to 21) in just over half the number of games. This advantage in plate discipline is very important. So to is the fact that Havens is a year older. When he has played, he’s hit. However, Havens will be 25 on Opening Day 2012, so his time is now. I suspect he will break camp as Buffalo’s second baseman, with Valdespin at shortstop.



10-26-11: - http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/what-do-the-mets-have-in-reese-havens - Havens’ health has been his biggest flaw as a player since being drafted by the Mets in the 1st round of the 2008 Draft (22nd overall) out of the University of South Carolina.  Skeptics might be concerned he will never stay healthy.  While he does strikeout at a high rate, I will give Havens the benefit of the doubt due to the lack of consistent at-bats. Overall, I like what I saw from Havens when he was on the field.  That potential is what draws the attention of scouts and the Mets front office staff.  Havens just turned 25, and the clock is ticking very quickly for him.  Should Havens stay healthy, the Mets look like they have their future everyday second-baseman.



10-25-11: - http://www.minorleaguerundown.com/2011/10/25/2011-top-20-new-york-mets-prospects  - 2011 Top 20 New York Mets Prospects -  10.Reese Havens, 2nd (High Class A, AA): Going all the way back to his college career, Havens has shown quality pop and the ability to get on base at a glove-first position. The second baseman unfortunately underwhelmed in the power department this year while his strikeout rate rose and his injury troubles continued. If he can show consistent health next year in his age 25 season, it’s likely that Havens will be a consistent offensive performer. If not, it’s highly possible that his power will not fully show itself and the strikeout troubles will continue, severely limiting his value.



11-21-11: - http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/mmo-top-20-mets-prospects-10-reese-havens-2b.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MetsMerizedOnline-GetMetsmerized-NewYorkMets+%28Mets+Merized+Online%29 - What is all the excitement about? It can be described in one word. Power. Havens’ sweet lefty swing generates plenty of natural power and lots of home runs and doubles will be the result someday. Not only that, Havens is a disciplined hitter with a strong sense of the strike zone. He generally has a fairly healthy OBP (.366 for his career), and a decent SLG% for a second baseman (.463), but the numbers are skewed as a result of the long stretches of season he has missed over his time with the Mets. All he needs to do is play everyday, and the numbers will pile up in a hurry. As a fielder, his natural position is shortstop, but due to slow foot speed, he was moved to 2B by the Mets at the start of the 2010 season, where his limited range would not be as much of a factor. As a fairly accomplished infielder, Havens combines soft hands, athleticism, smarts, and a very good throwing arm. Having been a starting shortstop at a major college baseball program, Havens exhibits excellent maturity and leadership qualities. This translates to a player who is level headed and intelligent, and definitely posesses a “big league mind-set”. Is it out of the realm of possibility for Havens to make his debut at Citifield sometime next year? I’d say if he stays healthy, it will be inevitable.



11-23-11: -  http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.js p?ymd=20111110&content_id=25949502&fext=.j sp&vkey=news_milb&partnerId=rss_nym -   Second base -- Reese Havens, Binghamton (58 games), St. Lucie (three games): A line-drive, gap-to-gap hitter if there ever was one, Havens batted .289 at Binghamton and collected 22 extra-base hits in an injury-shortened campaign. Back problems cropped up in June and July. "Whenever Reese has been healthy, he has always been able to perform," DePodesta said. "He's a natural hitter." Havens, selected 22nd overall in the 2008 Draft, is New York's No. 9 prospect. "Big-league hitter," echoed new Buffalo skipper Wally Backman, who managed Binghamton last season. "The issue with him has always been health. If he had stayed healthy [in 2010], I believe he would have been the second baseman for the Mets [in 2011]."



1-10-12 - http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-15-prospects-new-york-mets/  11. Reese Havens, 2B: Havens was drafted with significant fanfare but his pro career has been disappointing to this point, mainly due to an ongoing string of injuries. The infielder has yet to top 97 games in any season and played just 90 games combined over the past two years. When healthy, Havens shows a solid line-drive swing, although he struggles with strikeouts at times. Defensively, he’s moved from shortstop to second base where he should develop into an average defender.



1-8-11: - http://nybaseballdigest.com/2012/01/07/most-intriguing-mets-prospects-in-2012/  - 1) Reese Havens (2B) – If not for constant injuries he would already be entrenched at second base. Average defender with a short and powerful stroke at the plate. Also possesses good strike zone knowledge. If healthy, he will be the second baseman in Queens by the time 2012 is over.