MOMENTS LIKE THIS MEANT SOMEONE WAS INCREASING TOTAL WAR
I saw the following FanGraphs listing of Mets' players' WAR calculations for 2024. I thought it was interesting.
I left out the guys below 0.5 WAR, like Brennan favorite Tomas Nido.
Francisco Lindor was head and shoulders above everyone else at 7.8 WAR. If Mark Vientos had as many PAs as Lindor's 689, Mark would have have been around a solid 4.5 WAR at his 454 PA pace.
Jose Iglesias had the 2nd highest "WAR per PA" rate behind Lindor. Oh My Gracious. He had higher WAR than Pete Alonso, who had 400 more plate appearances than Jose.
Brandon Nimmo, meanwhile, had a relatively low 2.7 WAR as compared to Lindor's 7.8 WAR in virtually the same number of PAs.
JD Martinez and Starling Marte both clocked in with very disappointing 0.6 WAR amounts, both being lower than Dedniel Nunez, who only pitched 35 innings.
Pitching-wise, it is surprising to see Tylor Megill at 1.4 WAR in just 78 innings, as compared to Luis Severino at just 2.1 WAR in 182 IP.
Megill also, somehow, had a higher "WAR per IP" than Sean Manaea, and higher than Quintana, despite the Q Man's having 92 more innings than Megill.
Thoughts?
| # | Name | Team | PA | IP | Bat WAR | Pit WAR | Total WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
12 comments:
The ironic part about these WAR numbers is that no one can dispute the player numbers. The pitchers…. I can’t say.
It is a surprise Lindor wasn’t higher. As for Inglesias being higher than Alonso, I can’t disagree with that this year based on a very bad showing by Alonso. The 34 homeruns don’t impress me unless about half came in clutch situations, and we know they didn’t. Then comes the ability to produce runs…. Nimmo had a great hot stretch in July but outside of that, he was just a warm body.
In truth, it’s a miracle that the Mets won 89 games to me as the sum of the whole was much greater than its parts.
If I were to make a request to God for next year’s team, I’d ask him to keep them healthy (Alvarez, McNeil, Nimmo) and to have the Mets not have the stiffs that cost them so many games last year because we all know if it wasn’t for Lindor’s heroics pretty much the whole second half, this team is closer to the Nationals than the Phillies.
Gus, I won't start a WAR with you over those sentiments.
It probably would have been interesting to normalize the WAR totals, by assuming what every hitter would have had with 600 PAs and every starting pitcher with 150 innings and reliever with 50 innings (doing that for pitching is tougher as some did both starter and reliever duties in 2024)
Today apparently is the deadline to non-tender a rostered player. More intrigue. It's enough to give you a case of Blackburn.
Of course, WAR calculations are not hard and fast like BA or OBP. Fangraphs has Edwin at 1.1, but Baseball Ref had him at 0.5. Not sure why. Of course, BR had Edwin at 0.5, but in his great 2022, he was at 3.2 WAR. My guess is Fangraphs had him higher than 3.2 in 2022.
Tom,
Who do you non-tender?
Possibly Blackburn. Given the salary he would command next year and the fact that he is mediocre and likely to start the season on the IL.
We all hope Cohen and Sterns put together a team we can go to WAR with...Please! Also can Soto make a decision because I'm just about over it already.
Tom, the one thing that impresses me the most about the Dodgers is their fundamentals. They make you beat them and they won’t help you. Even someone like Max Muncy, who I wouldn’t consider a gold glover, plays third base well enough by making sure he makes the play. No frazzle or dazzle, just solid defensive play. To consider, Mookie Betts wasn’t a SS but that mentality of just making the routine play exorcises the errors.
Gary, he has some nerve dragging this out, huh? Another Thanksgiving coming up with family and all we'll be talking about is, "what is Soto DOING?" Not really, I'll be too busy eating.
Gus, being fundamentally tough is tough to beat.
I think WAR uses comparisons to the average player at that position to score. Therefore you cannot compare Vientos to Lindor or Pete to Iglesias.
Paul, there is a lot of good info around on WAR calculations. Someone here tackling that would make for a cool article.
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