It’s taken nearly the entire offseason, but this past week the Mets have actually been involved in reshaping their thus far inappropriately flawed roster. While right now the 2025 Mets offensively appear to be inferior to the playoff bound version from last season, there has been more noise about moves and potential moves from the front office as the clock ticking approaches hearing damage warning level with Spring training beginning in just one week.
Before we launch into what can still be done or what should be done, let’s first examine the contention that the offense is inferior to what was on the field last year. Thus far there is no first baseman, we guess Jeff McNeil at second base, Francisco Lindor at shortstop and maybe Mark Vientos at third base. Still injured Brandon Nimmo is in left field, the AAAA twins in center field as starters despite both batting right handed, and Juan Soto in right field. There is no DH. Francisco Alvarez returns behind the dish.
No one is denying that the $50+ million per year right fielder Soto is a better hitter and more than capable of addressing the Pete Alonso void. So for purposes of this exercise, let’s productivity-wise assign Soto vs. Alonso. That’s a 2025 win. Then we have McNeil vs. McNeil. That’s a push. Ditto Lindor. Ditto Vientos. Nimmo vs. Nimmo is a great unknown as no one can predict how many games the man can play or how he must alter his swing to compensate for the discomfort from plantar fasciitis. In center field Harrison Bader was more about glove than bat. His replacement Jose Siri is more of the same for less money and less offensive output. Tyrone Taylor is a push with Tyrone Taylor. Francisco Alvarez is a push with his 2024 version.
So if you look at it there is one 2025 victory in Juan Soto. Then you have a lot of the same returning, but still no first baseman and no DH while hoping for health and/or rebounds from a variety of 2024 season under performers.
OK, so now let’s see what can be done to help. One very interesting trade rumor that came up this past week was Tampa Rays’ first baseman Yandy Diaz. While not exactly the kind of household name many alternatives would be, he’s been very solid since arriving to the major leagues from Cuba. For his career he has been an extremely solid hitter. His first four years were spent as a part time player between 2017 and 2020. During that period he had 686 ABs and hit 17 home runs, drove in 77 and batted .280. He became a regular in 2021 so it makes sense to evaluate what he’s done in his last four years. He has then averaged .291 with a 162 game average again of 17 HRs and 77 RBIs. What’s especially impressive is his OBP of .376, SLG of .438 and OPS of .814.
If you’re looking for a point of comparison, a current Mets broadcaster while playing first base for the club hit .296 while averaging 15 HRs and driving in 86 while producing very similar other numbers. When you think about it, what Diaz is doing is actually pretty good.
Unlike Alonso, Diaz is more like a leadoff or number two hitter based upon his ability to make contact and get on base which is why his RBI numbers are a little suppressed. Why he might be an especially good fit for the Mets right now is that he is going to play this year at age 33 with the final year of his current contract the only financial obligation of a mere $10 million. An option exists for age 34 in 2026 at an increase to $12 million. He could either be retained while the club pursues another conspicuously attractive free agent at the top of the market or cut loose if they happen to land him.
Now what it would take to get Diaz is probably going to amount to prospect capital. The Rays are not looking to increase their payroll nor age their roster by moving people like Starling Marte or Jeff McNeil. No, here you would be looking to sacrifice one top 20 level prospect who could likely help in 2025 and another lower level wildcard prospect. Is that too much to pay? Probably not.
Worst case scenario, the Mets somehow land Diaz and reunite with Dave Kingman. Problem? No, now both the first base position and the DH position vacancies have been handled admirably. Then the 2025 offense might even be able to withstand the other positional question marks with the addition of not one but two solid bats to add to the Juan Soto acquisition.
Get it done.
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Wait
Is Dave Kingman coming out of retirement?
Is he still alive?
Was this the result of the new tariffs?
I'm so 😕
Yandy looks dandy. Just make sure he does not own a ranch with wild boars.
Also, saw this - no idea if it is true:
Insider Claims "Pete Is a Met Tomorrow" as He Publicly Degraded Scott Boras' Reputation
An insider has claimed that Pete Alonso is "a Met tomorrow," amid growing speculation about his future with the New York Mets. The statement comes as Alonso, frustrated with his contract negotiations, publicly degraded the reputation of his agent, Scott Boras. Sources suggest that Alonso's dissatisfaction with Boras' approach to his free agency has led to tension between the two parties. While Boras is known for his aggressive negotiating tactics, Alonso's frustration may signal a shift in his future with the Mets. The insider's comment hints that a deal could be imminent, as the Mets aim to keep their star slugger in-house long-term.
Wow reminds me of Cespedas.
Why not get both. Diaz's numbers would look great hitting behind Lindor. Their top 5 would rival anyone in baseball.
Lindor
Diaz
Soto
Alonso
Vientos
Follow it up with:
Nimmo
Alverez
McNeil/Acuna
Taylor/Siri, Gilbert in June
Sweet
(Sportsnaut) USA Today’s Nightengale thinks it “almost seems inevitable” that the Mets will eventually reach an agreement with Alonso, once the two sides figure out a salary in the the first year of the deal with an opt-out following the 2025 season. Strengthening that case is the fact that his only other serious suitor, Toronto, just spent money on Anthony Santander and Max Scherzer.
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JoeP, I agree. Go big. Bludgeon the opposition.
I thought Diaz was a reliever????
where are my meds????
Might come in handy with our starting pitching.
Gilbert up in June? There I think you are optimistic. Li’l Drew (5’8”) hit .206 last year in 361 plate appearances in AAA and Scottsdale. So, now, you expect him to up that by 30-40 points at the big league level? He will have to prove it to me. I am skeptical.
Nah... that was just wishful thinking.
"No DH"? With Soto and Nimmo in the corners, where else would Marte play? While he has slipped domewhat in D, and has had injury issues, he's still a dangerous hitter, especially in clutch spots. And he's at least as good a hitter as the '24 version of JDM.
And do you really expect Vientos and Alvy to show zero improvement over last year's numbers? IMO both are just in the early stages of their development, and I'll be very surprised and disappointed if they don't improve, especially Alvy.
Bill, it would be nice to see Marte as DH beat Vogelbach in a foot race to home plate….with Vogie being allowed to start at 2B. What is wrong with having a DHwith speed?
What about Jesse Winker? Pretty sure he’s our DH vs RHP. His career numbers vs RH are good. And Marte (if he’s still with us) was actually a good hitter last year vs LHP. I’m not too worried about our DH spot. Bring back Pete and I think our offense is better on paper than last season. And remember, our offense was top 5 over the last 100 games or so.
Actually, they could get the best production out of the DH spot in 2025 than they ever have with the right-left combo of Marte and Winker. If they do a straight platoon, it should be quite productive.
Vientos should get about 150-200 more plate appearances than he had last year (454). If you extrapolate his numbers, it comes out at 36 HR (for 150 add'l PA) and 95 or 96 RBI. He needs to provide that kind of production to bring out Soto's value.
Alvarez only had 342 plate appearances last year. Hopefully he can stay healthy and approach 500 this year.
To me, the key to whether this team is better in 2025 than 2024 is who they get to play first base. As Reese points out, Soto is a net win over Alonso by himself, but there are other factors - does Soto have adequate line-up protection?
So
The Grammy's were last night
Beyonce won the best country album
A group that has been broken up for 55 years (The Beatles) won for best song of the year
Still confused 😕
Adam, I am very much looking forward to Winker. One thing we must all remember….there are few Lou Gehrig in the line up. Guys do and will get hurt. We need viable extra capacity. Guys will get their ABs, even if Pete returns. The days of Colin Cowgill fill ins are OVER.
BTW, if Pete returns, he should get a few days off per month to rest. Starting 150 games may be more productive than starting 162. Everyone needs a rest here and there.
The Grammys were on? Darn I missed it again!
Strange to me. We go really BIG with Soto and then we go all Wilpon so I hope Mr. Sterns is as smart as he thinks he is.
Sorry I overlooked Winker. The Winker/Marte platoon should easily out-produce JDM.
I would still rather have Yancy Diaz as DH. That lineup that I posted before would be awesome.
I like Winkler myself but please remember he's .245 hitter. Great lefty bat off the bench. As far as Marte, trade him for whatever you can get. Eat half his salary. The other half pays Diaz's salary.
I’m a little skeptical of this narrative that Alonso is bitter at Boras because Alonso dropped his other agent for Boras and Alonso went out of his way last week or so to defend what Boras is trying accomplish. I don’t blame Boras for doing his best, just like I don’t blame Alonso for feeling unappreciated. Personally, I’m disappointed in the way the Mets drew a line in the sand, but I also would not have spent a billion on one guy unless he turned water into wine….
I endorse this comment.
Just purely on a baseball skills basis, and considering age disparity, Soto was probably worth about 15 years, $500 million if Pete gets 3 years, $70 million. Soto is worth more for his pure marquis value than the $500 million. Fans like Pete, but the Yankees out-drew the Mets by 1 million last year. Soto will put many, many more Fannies in seats than an aging Pete. And the revenues per each extra Fanny in seat adds up astronomically. Still, the Mets had to overpay to win the Soto Sweepstakes.
I agree, Tom. With a 5-man bench (which includes the starter at DH), we’ve got Winker, Marte, Torrens, Taylor (or Siri) and one last spot for a backup MI (maybe Madrigal, maybe Acuña, maybe even Jared Young, or someone not yet in the org), and that’s it. Unless we move Marte, flexibility is limited. But I too would like to see Pete and Lindor both play closer to 150 than 162.
As i am in Hawaii, I am a little late to the table.
Compare the current potential lineup to the lineup in game one in the nlcs. The only change is Soto for Alonso with Marte to DH, Winker to first and McNeil for Iglesias. I would argue that the lineup is at least as good if not better than that lineup.
Is there room for improvement? Definitely. Alonso at first would be better than Winker.
The preseason power rankings have the Mets as a top five team on paper. I personally think another arm for the pen
may be a better get than a bat for the lineup. Another bat, sure.
Just because you’re in Hawaii and we are jealous of you, you can create any table you want.
Adam, Lindor, unlike Pete, has a reasonable shot at theHall of Fame. So he won’t want to be doing much sitting. Total hits, doubles, HRS, steals, RBIs increase only by playing.
Actually if Pete winds up with 500+ home runs for his career, he might get HOF consideration.
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