John From Albany - The Ultimate Top 50 Mets Prospect List

Long time Mack’s Mets reader, Bill Metsiac, came up with a great idea of a post with all the different Mack’s Mets Prospect lists. 

Looking at the Mack’s Mets' lists and all the other Mets Prospect lists out there, I came up with another idea. 

What if we could take all the lists and combine them into one?

I then took 11 different prospect lists (Mack’s, Tom’s, and mine plus 8 from other sites), scored each player by ranking (50 points for #1, 49 points for #2, etc.) and came up with the Ultimate Mets prospect list (all due respect to UltimateMets.com).  

So without further ado, here is: 

The Ultimate Top 50 Mets Prospect List:

1. Ronny Mauricio SS (540 total pts.); #1 prospect on 8 different lists!

2. Francisco Alvarez C (526 total pts.); #1 Prospect on 1 list.

3. Andres Gimenez SS (522 total pts.); #1 Prospect on 1 list.

4. Matthew Allan RHP (514 total pts.); #1 Prospect on 1 list.

5. Brett Baty 3B (506 total pts.);

6. Mark Vientos 3B (492 total pts.); 7. Thomas Szapucki LHP (483 total pts.); 8. David Peterson LHP (457 total pts.); 9. Josh Wolf RHP (448 total pts.); 10. Kevin Smith LHP (439 total pts.);

11. Freddy Valdez RF (393 total pts.); 12. Junior Santos RHP (343 total pts.); 13. Alexander Ramirez OF (341 total pts.); 14. Ryley Gilliam RHP (324 total pts.); 15. Franklyn Kilome RHP (322 total pts.);

16. Shervyen Newton SS (312 total pts.); 17. Jordan Humphreys RHP (287 total pts.); 18. (tie) Ali Sanchez C (257 total pts.); 18. (tie) Carlos Cortes 2B (257 total pts.); 20. Jaylen Palmer 3B (225 total pts.);

21. Robert Dominguez RHP (181 total pts.); 22. Adrian Hernandez CF (168 total pts.); 23. Tony Dibrell RHP (166 total pts.); 24. Endy Rodriguez C (165 total pts.); 25. Dedniel Nunez RHP (160 total Pts.);

26. Jake Mangum CF (153 total Pts.); 27. Michel Otanez RHP (146 total Pts.); 28. Daison Acosta RHP (143 total Pts.); 29. Harol Gonzalez RHP (133 total Pts.); 30.  Wilmer Reyes SS/2B/3B (128 total Pts.);

31. Jose Butto RHP (117 total Pts.); 32. Luis Carpio 2B/SS/LF (111 total Pts.); 33. Andres Regnault C/DH (108 total Pts.); 34. Patrick Mazeika C/1B (106 total Pts.); 35. Tylor Megill RHP (103 total Pts.);

36. Stephen Nogosek RHP (101 total Pts.); 37. Stephen Villines RHP (92 total Pts.); 38. Jordany Ventura RHP (79 total Pts.); 38. Wagner Lagrange OF (79 total Pts.); 40. (tie) Walker Lockett RHP (78 total Pts.); 40. (tie) Matt Blackham RHP (78 total Pts.);

42. Garrison Bryant RHP (72 total Pts.); 43. Joshua Cornielly RHP (65 total Pts.); 44. (tie) Andrew Mitchell LHP (59 total Pts.); 44. (tie) Quinn Brodey OF (59 total Pts.);

46. Scott Ota RF (53 total Pts.); 47. Hansel Moreno  SS/CF/3B (52 total Pts.); 48. Hayden Senger C (46 total Pts.); 49. Blaine McIntosh  CF (44 total Pts.); 50. Adonis Uceta RHP (43 total Pts.).

Now, the prospect lists behind the scores:

MLB.com Top 30 Mets Prospects: 

1. Ronny Mauricio SS; 2. Francisco Alvarez C; 3. Andres Gimenez SS; 4. Brett Baty 3B; 5. Matthew Allan RHP; 6. Mark Vientos 3B; 7. Thomas Szapucki LHP; 8. Josh Wolf RHP; 9. Kevin Smith LHP; 10. David Peterson LHP; 11. Junior Santos RHP; 12. Franklyn Kilome RHP; 13. Robert Dominguez RHP; 14. Jordan Humphreys RHP; 15. Shervyen Newton INF; 16. Alexander Ramirez OF; 17. Endy Rodriguez C/OF; 18. Freddy Valdez OF; 19. Dedniel Nunez RHP; 20. Joshua Cornielly RHP; 21. Jaylen Palmer 3B/SS; 22. Carlos Cortes 2B; 23. Michel Otanez RHP; 24. Jordany Ventura RHP; 25. Walker Lockett RHP; 26. Ali Sanchez C; 27. Ryley Gilliam RHP; 28. Jose Butto RHP; 29. Tony Dibrell RHP; 30. Tylor Megill RHP. 

Keith Law The Athletic: 

1. Ronny Mauricio, SS; 2. Francisco Alvarez, C; 3. Matthew Allan, RHP; 4. Brett Baty, 3B; 5. Mark Vientos, 3B; 6. Andrés Giménez, SS; 7. David Peterson, LHP; 8. Kevin Smith, LHP; 9. Thomas Szapucki, LHP; 10. Shervyen Newton, SS; 11. Josh Wolf, RHP; 12. Tony Dibrell, RHP; 13. Freddy Valdez, OF; 14. Jordan Humphreys, RHP; 15. Alexander Ramirez, OF; 16. Junior Santos, RHP; 17. Ryley Gilliam, RHP; 18. Carlos Cortes, 2B/OF; 19. Jake Mangum, OF; 20. Franklyn Kilomé, RHP.

Baseball America’s top 30 Mets Prospects courtesy of 90 Percent Mets:

#1 Ronny Mauricio SS; #2 Francisco Alvarez C; #3 Brett Baty 3B; #4 Matthew Allan RHP; #5 Andres Gimenez SS; #6 Mark Vientos 3B; #7 Thomas Szapucki LHP; #8 Josh Wolf RHP; #9 Kevin Smith LHP; #10 David Peterson LHP; #11 Jordan Humphreys RHP; #12 Junior Santos RHP; #13 Franklyn Kilome RHP; #14 Michel Otanez RHP; #15 Robert Dominguez RHP; #16 Alexander Ramirez OF; #17 Shervyen Newton INF; #18 Freddy Valdez OF; #19 Jose Butto RHP; #20 Jaylen Palmer INF; #21 Dedniel Nunez RHP; #22 Walker Lockett RHP; #23 Tony Dibrell RHP; #24 Daison Acosta RHP; #25 Carlos Cortes 2B; #26 Ryley Gilliam RHP; #27 Ali Sanchez C; #28 Quinn Brodey OF; #29 Scott Ota OF; #30 Hayden Senger C.

Fan Graphs Top 31 Mets Prospects:

1. Ronny Mauricio SS; 2. Andres Gimenez SS; 3. Mark Vientos 3B; 4. Brett Baty 3B; 5. Matthew Allan RHP; 6. Francisco Alvarez C;  7. Thomas Szapucki LHP; 8. David Peterson LHP; 9. Franklyn Kilome  RHP; 10. Shervyen Newton SS; 11. Junior Santos RHP; 12. Josh Wolf RHP; 13. Endy Rodriguez C; 14. Kevin Smith LHP; 15. Jaylen Palmer 3B; 16. Adrian Hernandez CF; 17. Robert Dominguez RHP; 18. Jordany Ventura RHP; 19. Carlos Cortes 2B/LF; 20. Joshua Cornielly RHP; 21. Jordan Humphreys RHP; 22. Alexander Ramirez CF; 23. Ali Sanchez C; 24. Will Toffey 3B; 25. Freddy Valdez RF; 26. Ryley Gilliam RHP; 27. Desmond Lindsay CF; 28. Walker Lockett; 29. Tylor Megill RHP; 30. Joander Suarez RHP; 31. Michel Otanez RHP;

The one and only Mack of Mack's Mets: 

Numbers 1-5: 1. C Francisco Alvarez; 2. SS Ronny Mauricio; 3. 3B Brett Baty; 4. SP Thomas Szapucki; 5. SP Matt Allan;

Numbers 6-10: 6. OF Freddy Valdez; 7. SS Andres Gimenez; 8. SP Josh Wolf; 9. SP Stephen Villines; 10. RP Ryley Gilliam; 

Numbers 11-15: 11. 3B Mark Vientos; 12. OF Alexander Ramirez; 13. OF Jake Mangum; 14. SP David Peterson; 15. OF Wagner Lagrange; 

Numbers 16- 20: 16. SP Jordan Humphreys; 17. OF Quinn Brodey; 18. RP Andrew Mitchell; 19. C Endy Rodriguez; 20. P Franklyn Kilome; 

Numbers 21-25: 21. SP Kevin Smith; 22. RP Stephen Nogosek; 23. C-1B Patrick Mazeika; 24. 2B Carlos Cortes; 25. SP Robert Dominguez.

Tom Brennan Mack's Mets: 

Numbers 1-5: 1. SS Ronny Mauricio; 2. C Francisco Alvarez; 3. SP Matt Allan; 4. SS Andres Gimenez; 5. 3B Brett Baty; 

Numbers 6-10: 6. SP Thomas Szapucki; 7. 3B Mark Vientos; 8. SP Kevin Smith; 9. RP Stephen Nogosek; 10. SP Tylor Megill; 1

Numbers 11-15: 11. SP Josh Wolf; 12. SP David Peterson; 13. RP Ryley Gilliam; 14. SP Junior Santos; 15. IF Wilmer Reyes; 

Numbers 16-20: 16. SP Garrison Bryant; 17. OF Johneshwy Fargas; 18. Matt Blackham; 19. IF Carlos Cortes; 20. OF Freddy Valdez; 

Numbers 21-25: 21. SP Harol Gonzalez; 22. C Ali Sanchez; 23. OF Alexander Ramirez; 24, C Andres Regnault; 25. 1B/C Pat Mazeika.

Prospects 1500.com: 

1. Ronny Mauricio, SS; 2. Francisco Alvarez, C; 3. Andres Gimenez, SS; 4. Thomas Szapucki, LHP; 5. Mark Vientos, 3B/1B; 6. Brett Baty, 3B/1B; 7. Matthew Allan, RHP; 8. David Peterson, LHP; 9. Alexander Ramirez, OF; 10. Josh Wolf, RHP; 11. Junior Santos, RHP; 12. Shervyen Newton, SS/2B/3B; 13. Kevin Smith, LHP; 14. Freddy Valdez, OF; 15. Franklyn Kilome, RHP; 16. Jordan Humphreys, RHP; 17. Adrian Hernandez, OF; 18. Blaine McIntosh, OF; 19. Jaylen Palmer, SS/3B; 20. Daison Acosta, RHP; 21. Dedniel Nunez, RHP; 22. Ali Sanchez, C; 23. Endy Rodriguez, C; 24. Andres Regnault, C; 25. Robert Dominguez, RHP; 26. Luis Carpio, 2B/SS; 27. Federico Polanco, SS/2B/3B; 28. Ryley Gilliam, RHP; 29. Cesar Loaiza, LHP; 30. Jefferson Escorcha, LHP; 31. Michel Otanez, RHP; 32. Jordany Ventura, RHP; 33. Tony Dibrell, RHP; 34. Jace Beck, RHP; 35. Franklin Parra, LHP; 36. Hayden Senger, C; 37. Raul Beracierta, OF; 38. William Lugo, SS/3B; 39. Desmond Lindsay, OF; 40. Carlos Cortes, 2B/LF; 41. Fernando Villalobos, C; 42. Jake Mangum, OF; 43. Tylor Megill, RHP; 44. Bryce Hutchinson, RHP; 45. Stanley Consuegra, OF; 46. Patrick Mazeika, C/1B; 47. Junior Tilien, SS/IF/OF; 48. Joshua Cornielly, RHP; 49. Warren Saunders, 3B/1B/2B; 50. Luke Ritter, 2B/UT.

Mets 360 top 50 2020 Mets Prospects:  

1. Matthew Allan; 2. Ronny Mauricio;  3. Francisco Alvarez; 4. Andres Gimenez; 5. Thomas Szapucki; 6. Mark Vientos; 7. Freddy Valdez; 8. Brett Baty; 9. Josh Wolf; David Peterson; 11. Luis Carpio; 12. Alexander Ramirez; 13. Junior Santos; 14. Shervyen Newton; 15. Kevin Smith; 16. Jordan Humphreys; 17. Adrian Hernandez; 18. Jose Butto; 19. Hansel Moreno; 20. Jaylen Palmer; 21. Gregory Guerrero; Ali Sanchez; 23. Ryley Gilliam; 24. Harol Gonzalez; 25. Daison Acosta; 26. Tony Dibrell; 27. Franklyn Kilome; 28. Steve Villines; 29. Andres Regnault; 30. Wilfred Astudillo; 31. Wilmer Reyes; 32. Wagner Lagrange; 33. Adonis Uceta; 34. Matt Blackham; 35. Yoel Romero; 36. Jefferson Escorcha; 37. Michel Otanez; 38. Franklin Parra; 39. Scott Ota; 40. Blaine McIntosh; 41. Hayden Senger; 42. Ryder Ryan; 43. Tommy Wilson; 44. Jeremy Vasquez; 45. Bryce Hutchinson; 45. Bryce Hutchinson; 46. Dedniel Nunez; 45. Bryce Hutchinson; 46. Dedniel Nunez; 47. Jace Beck; 48. Branden Fryman; 49. Quinn Brodey; 50. Jake Mangum.

Metsmerized Online:

1. Ronny Mauricio SS; 2. Andres Gimenez, SS; 3. Francisco Alvarez C; 4. Matthew Allan, RHP; 5. Mark Vientos, 3B; 6. Brett Baty 3B; 7. David Peterson LHP; 8. Shervyen Newton INF;  9. Thomas Szapucki LHP; 10. Josh Wolf RHP; 11. Kevin Smith, LHP; 12. Franklyn Kilome, RHP; 13. Jordan Humphreys RHP; 14. Junior Santos RHP; 15. Carlos Cortes 2B; 16. Freddy Valdez RF; 17. Adrian Hernandez, CF; 18, Dedniel Nunez RHP; 19. Alexander Ramirez OF; 20. Ali Sanchez, C; Numbers 21-25: 21. Jaylen Palmer, INF. 22. Jose Butto; 23. Stephen Gonsalves, LHP; 24. Michel Otanez RHP; 25. Daison Acosta RHP. Numbers 26-30: 26. Ryley Gilliam, RHP; 27. Wilmer Reyes, INF; 28. Luis Carpio, INF; 29. Bryce Hutchinson, RHP; 30. Robert Dominguez, RHP;

Amazing Avenue: 

#1: Ronny Mauricio; #2: Andres Gimenez; #3: Matthew Allan; #4: Brett Baty; #5. Mark Vientos; #6: Francisco Alvarez; #7: David Peterson; #8: Thomas Szapucki;  #9: Franklyn Kilome; #10: Shervyen Newton; #11: Josh Wolf; #12: Kevin Smith; #13: Harol Gonzalez; #14: Junior Santos; #15: Freddy Valdez; #16 Jaylen Palmer; #17 Tony Dibrell; #18: Daison Acosta; #19: Ryley Gilliam; #20: Adrian Hernandez; #21: Dedniel Nunez; #22: Stanley Consuegra; #23: Ali Sanchez; #24: Jake Mangum; #25: Alexander Ramirez.

 

John’s Alternative Prospect List: 

1. SS Andres Gimenez; 2. LHSP Kevin Smith; 3. SS Wilmer Reyes; 4. C/1B Patrick Mazieka; 5. OF Jake Mangum;

Numbers 6-10: 6. C Francisco Alvarez; 7. RHSP Matthew Allan; 8. 3B Brett Baty; 9. SS Ronny Mauricio; 10. 3B Mark Vientos.

Numbers 11-15: 11. LHSP David Peterson; 12. LHSP Thomas Szapucki; 13. RHSP Harol Gonzalez; 14. RHSP Garrison Bryant; 15. RHSP Josh Wolf;

Numbers 16-20: 16. RF Freddy Valdez; 17. C Ali Sanchez; 18. C Endy Rodriguez; 19. C Andres Regnault; 20. 2B Carlos Cortes

Numbers 21-25: 21. RHRP Stephen Nogosek; 22. RHRP Ryley Gilliam; 23. RHRP Matt Blackman; 24. RHRP Stephen Villines 25. LHRP Andrew Mitchell;

Numbers 26-30: 26. RHRP Adonis Uceta; 27. LF Wagner Lagrange; 28. IF Luis Carpio; 29. RHSP Nathan Jones; 30. IF/OF Yoel Romero;

Numbers 31-35: 31. IF/OF Hansel Moreno; 32. RF Scott Ota; 33. LF Zach Ashford; 34. SS Federico Polanco; 35. OF Carlos Dominguez;

Numbers 36-40: 36. 3B Jose Peroza; 37. LHRP Andrew Edwards; 38. RHRP Mitch Ragan; 39. RHSP Adam Oller; 40. RHSP Tylor Megill;

Numbers 41-45: 41. 2B Luke Ritter; 42. RHRP Billy Oxford; 43. RHRP Jared Biddy; 44. RHRP Matt Mullenbach; 45. RHSP Jaison Vilera;

Numbers 46-50: 46. 1B Joe Genord; 47. OF Ranfy Adon; 48. RHSP Frank Valentino; 49. LF Antoine Duplantis; 50. OF Braxton Lee.

Thanks to Mack’s Mets’ Dave Rubin for his help putting this together and to Mack, Tom, and the other writers for their great prospect lists.

Did we miss anyone?  

If so, leave a comment below and thanks for reading Mack’s Mets.

The Top 25: Jason Bay

It's really sad that I have to go to Bay as the 4th player in my most likely 25 player list. He's too expensive to drop and too bad to trade and he's GOING to start the year in left field for the Mets no matter what. That does NOT mean he's going to END the year in Flushing or... at least STARTING in Flushing.

What's To Like:

How He Handles The Press - If a baseball player's worth was decided by how well he talked to the media, Jason Bay would be worth a ton. He's good at saying the "right" thing when he's asked questions that, left to some players, might trap might trap a player into saying something negative about the team, coaching staff or his fellow players. Maybe he should coach the Wilpons.

What's Not To Like:

His Resume in New York - Since coming to New York he's not exactly done... ANYTHING. He's nowhere NEAR that 30 HR hitter he was in Pittsburgh and Boston. He's nowhere near 80+ RBIs that Omar Minaya wrongfully assumed he'd be guaranteed.

Mentality - I hate to say it, but I think Jason Bay has even given up on Jason Bay. When I look at him I don't see a player who expects to be the player he once was ever again. I remember seeing Luis Castillo give me glimmers of what he once was. Is Jason Bay going to make me yearn for Luis Castillo?

Random And Awesome:

Those Who Hail From Trail - Jason Bay hails from Trail in British Columbia. The following people ALSO hail from there: Shawn Horcoff, current NHL player and captain of the Edmonton Oilers. Thomas d'Aquino, Chief executive and president of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives CCCE, and one of the private-sector architects of the North American Free Trade Agreement. Lauren Bay, Canadian National Softball Team and National Pro Fastpitch pitcher (Jason's sister ). Adam Deadmarsh, former NHL player, won Stanley cup in 1996 with the Colorado Avalanche. Dallas Drake, former NHL player, won Stanley Cup in 2008 with the Red Wings. Ray Ferraro, former NHL player for the Islanders, Rangers, Whalers, Thrashers, Kings, Blues. Bruno Freschi, architect for Expo 86. Ken Georgetti, current President of the Canadian Labour Congress. Robert Hampton Gray, one of the last Canadians to die in WWII and the last Canadian recipient of the Victoria Cross. Tom Harrison, former MLB pitcher for the Kansas City A's, now the Oakland Athletics. Barret Jackman, current NHL player for the St. Louis Blues. Mike Kobluk, of The Chad Mitchell Trio. Richard Kromm, former NHL player. Kerrin Lee-Gartner, Canadian Olympic Women's Ski Team, Downhill Olympic Gold Medal 1992. Cesare Maniago, former NHL player for the Leafs, Canadiens, Rangers, North Stars, Canucks. Mike Matteucci, former NHL player for the Wild. Steve McCarthy, current NHL player for the Blackhawks, Canucks, Thrashers. Bill McEwan, President and CEO of Sobeys. Faron Moller, President of the BCTCS. Martin Popoff, heavy metal music journalist. Steve Tambellini, former NHL player & current GM of the Edmonton Oilers.

The Top 25:

1. Ike Davis, 1B
2. Jon Niese, SP
3. Tim Byrdak, RP
4. Jason Bay, LF
   

The Top 25: Tim Byrdak

With corner-stones like Reyes, Wright and Santana in doubt I again need to go with a SAFE choice for someone who will DEFINITELY be in the starting 25 for the 3rd player I choose. Tim Byrdak is that guy. Met's extended him through 2012 and AT LEAST until the trade deadline.

What's To Like:

LOOGY - His overall numbers are good but against lefties he's GREAT. He's actually sorta bad against righties and gets saved by the fact he faces few of them. Let's just keep from talk about him closing or setting up as that would be awful.

What's Not To Like:

AGE - Tim Byrdak will be 38 next year and old arms break down. The key will be that the Mets NEED to have multiple lefties in the bullpen. That SHOULD be solved by Daniel Herrera.

Random And Awesome:

Minnie Me - He played for the Gary SouthShore RailCats in 2003. While playing for the Rail Cats,he faced 77-year-old Minnie Minoso leading off the game at St. Paul on July 16, 2003 and got a walk. The plate appearance marks Minoso’s seventh decade of professional baseball, and Byrdak is quoted in the “Scorecard” section of Sports Illustrated on his impressions on facing the former White Sox star.

The Top 25:

1. Ike Davis, 1B
2. Jon Niese, SP
3. Tim Byrdak, RP
   

The Top 25: Jon Niese

When going through the "Top 25" it might seem odd to start with Ike Davis and Jon Niese. Here's the fact: Davis and Niese WILL DEFINITELY be on the 2012 Mets. David Wright, Jose Reyes, Johan Santana... they are more in the maybe camp than you might think (check tomorrow's post for more on this). Niese has established himself in two seasons as a middle of the rotation lefty with front-end potential. Plus, I truly believe that 2012 will be a breakout year for Jon.

What's To Like:

PROGRESS - While his ERA went up a bit in 2012, I like to look a little deeper. His walks went down, his strikeouts went up and his WHIP went down. It isn't leaps and bounds, but we need to expect a pitcher like Niese to not be growing by staggering amounts.

What's Not To Like:

FADING - Niese hasn't been around long enough to show a "trend" but in 2010 he faded towards the season's end and in 2011 he got hurt. One more... and it IS a trend.

NORMAL - Look at his stuff and Niese isn't exactly Nolan Ryan. He throws a 90 MPH fastball and a couple pretty slick breaking pitches. He'd be classified as a "Gamer" if he were a prospect. The silver lining (and reason I have not given up on Mark Cohoon) is that he's a lefty. Which elevates his "Normal" stuff into something "Abbie Normal".

Random And Awesome:

THE NOSE - Were this an opera, Niese might have a situation like Shostakovich's protagonist. The story by Nikolai Gogol centers around a man whose nose is removed whilst shaving. The nose goes on to rise in rank and fame, exceeding that of its former owner. Last night whilst watching Axford pitch, I wondered if part of HIS success was due to his... extravagant facial hair. This made me wonder if a batter might be distracted by a pitchers facial quirk. If that is true, then batters must have issues when faced with the gravitational force of Niese's shnoz.

The Top 25:

1. Ike Davis, 1B
2. Jon Niese, SP