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Remember 1969: Long Mets careers

 

Remember's Ramblings – Volume 2, Article 3

Jamuary 14, 2025

 


Career Mets?  

How many people work for just one organization in their life?

 

The other day I was reading through another Pete Alonso article over on the Mets360 site written by one Charlie Hangley.   There was a line in there that caught my eye – to quote Charlie:  “The fanboy in me says let’s bring Pete home, with the idea of him smashing most existing offensive club records and possibly becoming the fourth ballplayer in history to spend his entire career as a Met – the other three being David WrightEd Kranepool and Ron Hodges.

While I also embrace the idea that Pete should stick around and smash most Mets hitting records in a few years (it will take him about a half-season to become the Mets all-time Home Run leader), it was the concept of only three other players in the Mets 63 years that have spent their entire career years with the Mets that piqued my interest.    

I immediately thought of Kevin Morgan who might take exception to that statement.     Back to the archives I went and found that in fact, those were the only three position players that had complete careers of 6 or more years that were spent entirely with one organization. 

Overall, 145 of the 1252 players that have ever played for the Mets did not play (or have not yet played) for another major league team. 

Of all players that have played with no other major league team, Francisco Alvarez and Mark Vientos rank #10 and #11 in games played among the position players.   The four mentioned above (Kranepool (1), Wright (2), Alonso (4), and Hodges (6) are all ahead of them and it is in fact none other than Brandon Nimmo who has played the 3rd most games for the Mets and no one else.   Jeff McNeil ranks 5.   

Rounding out the top 9 are Bruce Boisclair, Rod Kanehl, and Ron Gardenhire.  Nimmo is about 6 full years behind Wright for 2nd place and probably has the best chance of the active players of staying on this list. 

While this list is just the position players, you might ask “What about pitchers”?    There are actually two pitchers in the overall top 10 list – Pedro Feliciano was in 484 games across 9 years and Jeff Innis pitched in 288 games in 7 years. 

Drew Smith has pitched in 6 different years, compiling 191 games, just ahead of Bob Apodaca’s 184, both tucked in between Alvarez at 211 and Viento at 1974.  Smith is still active and Apodaca doesn’t make the cut of ‘career > 5 years’.   

I must admit that I had never given much thought to career Mets and was a little surprised when I read Charlie’s statement for the first time.   After pulling the list to see all of the players who played nowhere else, some names struck me as 'what could have been' - Seaver, Strawberry, Doc, Buddy, etc.    

One specific guy that I thought about was Cleon Jones.  I knew he played a long time with the Mets, but did not remember either where he came from or where he went after the Mets.   It turns out he was signed as an amateur free agent by the Mets and broke in with them in 1963.   

He played over 1200 games under the NY cap through 1975 when he was released mid-year.    He signed as a free agent with the Chicago White Sox in April 1976 and played just 12 games with them before being released in May, ending his career with 1201 games with the Mets and 12 with the Sox.    Almost!

Remember’s Rambling:  On a very related note

You have to wonder if Pete took any notice of the news last week that the Mets are going to retire David Wright’s #5 and honor him with the rest of the retired numbers.     Another few good years could get his #20 the same treatment.   

I don’t know that the Mets as a business would ever let him finish his career here – they certainly don’t want to commit more than 3 years to him now, but if he remains productive, will they extend him contracts as he approaches his mid to late 30s to try to attain some of those records and a potential Hall of Fame place as a career Met?    I have my doubts. 

If I am Pete, getting that number retired is a secondary reason to come back.   If there is any Mets offer on the table to hit behind JuanSoto, as well as OBP machine Brandon Nimmo and perennial all-star Francisco Lindor, why would I think twice $$??  

Perhaps I am just an old I/T guy that worked for 40 years in corporate America (for just one company!) making enough to feed my family, have a nice house and save a little for retirement, but I still struggle with the difference between $88M and $95M.      It seems that 88 should buy a nice mansion (or 2) wherever you want to be and have a couple of nice cars in the driveway(s).    

At some point it has to be about more than just the money - OMG, just sign the damn thing, play your butt off for the next three years and make it hard for them to jettison you off later.   There is no better opportunity to get to the World Series!     

                     Remember’s Reminiscing:   January 14 Birthdays

Ross Jones (65), Mike Pelfrey (41), Adam Kolarek (36), and Aaron Altherr (34) are all celebrating birthdays today.

The late Dave Marshall would have been 82 today.           

I'm out - stay safe and well - have a good week - pitchers and catchers in a month! 



5 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

I’d be shocked if Pete finishes his career as a Met, as I completely expect age-related decline. If he plays3 more years, with them,I think he is sliding by year 3 (hopefully not before them).

TexasGusCC said...

Good morning! A few things from me. Perpetual Pedro signed with the Yankees, but got hurt in spring training and never pitched for them. Does that count?

Also, Nimmo got that contract as a matter of circumstance and timing. Does he get it today with Stearns? Doubtful. As for Alonso, he wanted the Nimmo deal with more money. I can understand why, but I also feel that players deserve the chance to maximize their income and just like DeGrom, if he comes back to New York and wears the u inform, all is forgiven with the fans.

Paul Articulates said...

On your statement about the difference between $88M vs $95M, I think that it is not about the extra few $s being needed. This is an industry that is entirely populated by ultra-competitive people - players, agents, and front office personnel. They would not be there if not for their competitiveness. But when it comes to a negotiation like this, they can't help but push for more to "win" the prize.

Remember1969 said...

I get all that, but at some point there is a negative return on it all when considering the PR and reputations involved. I bet Michael Conforto wishes he could have a free agency do-over, and it didn't work out real well for Jordan Montgomery, Blake Snell (although he made a decent recovery), Cody Bellinger, etc.

Remember1969 said...

I looked up Pedro's baseball reference page and saw some stuff I did not remember. He actually signed with the Yankees as a free agent in early January 2011 and was with that organization for two full years without pitching (TJS? I don't remember). He was granted free agency in November 2012, after which he re-signed with the Mets. He pitched 25 games for the Mets in 2013 after that Yankees no-show. He was granted free agency again at the close of the 2013 season and signed with St. Louis for May 2014. He never pitched for the Cardinals and was released a couple months later in August. He signed with the Cubs in February 2015 - his transaction history and career ended there.