4/10/25

Paul Articulates - Is the Mets pitching THAT good?


You see the stories and posts all over – the Mets pitching staff is leading the league in ERA by a wide margin.  Starters, relievers, and every category you can imagine are getting top billing.  This wasn’t expected to happen.  Most pundits would have said the Mets staff is average to slightly above average on paper, particularly compared to most of the teams expecting to contend this year.  So I wondered, “is this real?” or is it an aberration?

First, let’s set the facts.  As of Monday night’s results, the New York Mets were leading MLB with a 1.72 ERA.  That is almost a run better than the second best staff, the Los Angeles Dodgers who own a 2.63 ERA.  Slice it by starters, and the Mets are ahead again at 2.16 compared to the Dodgers and Rockies at 2.61.  Slice it by relievers, and the Mets are ahead again at 1.15 versus the next-best Padres at 1.74.


The stats don’t lie – this is some remarkable performance so far.  You have seen the tremendous consistency in the pitching metrics shared by Mack lately.  But is the pitching or is it the competition?  We have played three full and one partial series so far against the Astros, Marlins, and Blue Jays.  

The Astros aren’t hitting the ball well against anyone so far with a .202 team batting average that ranks 27th in MLB, but the Marlins have been OK at .237 (middle of the pack) and the Blue Jays are sixth in MLB with a .267 team batting average.  Their .717 OPS is also pretty good, so when you hold them to three runs over three games, that is saying something.

Sometimes statistics can be skewed by individual performances (positive or negative), so I looked at the distribution across the staff.  It is nothing short of amazing.  Of 13 pitchers that have recorded outs for the Mets this year, eleven of them have an ERA under 3.00 right now.  Eleven of the thirteen also have a WHIP of 1.5 or below.  This represents remarkable control over the opponent’s bats.

When you get results like this across the board and it was not achieved by spending $1B on the best of the best, there has to be a systematic reason for this performance.  I would attribute it to two things – the pitching lab technology and the coaches’ mastery of that data.  You can’t succeed without both.  

Data is data – and as we know by watching the news every day it is possible to make statistics say anything you want by cherry picking the right numbers.  In today’s case, the Mets pitching coaches and player development team have refined the art of using the RIGHT data to inform their decisions on which mechanics to focus on, what pitches to develop, and how to guide the pitchers without overwhelming them with change.

I know that over the course of a season, these arms will be tested.  We will run into hot teams with hot hitters, stadiums with thin air or winds blowing out, and umpires that shrink the strike zone.  The year-end numbers will not likely be as impressive as they are today.  But I think we can say that the team’s investment in technology and expertise is paying large dividends already.  

If the 13 guys they rostered to start the season are exhibiting this level of performance, just imagine what will come from the dozens of prospects making their way up through the development system with time to absorb plenty of this guidance.

You have done well, David Stearns and Steve Cohen!  Hang on to these guys!


12 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

PITCHING HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD.

A few thoughts: if Edwin Diaz had a Reed Garrett salary and options left, would he be optioned to AAA? Worst of the relievers so far. And the Marlins’ roster is a bunch of nobodies, yet their team average is 30 points higher than the Mets.

Edwin turning that 2 run lead into an insurmountable 5 run lead was followed by a fine catch on Lindor’s 9th inning line out and Alonso’s 408 foot, highway robbery game-ending catch. Those two shots a few feet further or over and it is a tie game. ( BTW, if Mr Cohen made CF 400 feet, big slugger Pete gets a HR there.. The wind etc. in those 6 games cost them 3-4 HRs on this home stand alone without shortened fences.

Meanwhile, would Vientos, Siri, Baty, Acuna, and Taylor be on the Marlins or White Sox 26 man rosters? I have my doubts. They collectively have sucked big time so far, as best seen by their roughly .125 average and 3 total RBIS. FIVE GUYS PLAYING A LOT WITH 3 RBI’S IN 12 GAMES??

Diaz and those hitters better wake up out west.

Mack Ade said...

Tom

Please

No more cowbell

Mack Ade said...

Re: Diaz

The pen is hot enough to give him a couple of days off and clear his head

bill metsiac said...

The pitchhas certainly been exceptional so far, and it soon will be getting complicated.
Dedniel Nunez seems healthy again, and if so, should move to Queens shortly. But who deserves to go north to replace him? No one clearly deserves to, but someone (probably Danny Young) will.
In the next month or so, any or all of Manaea, Montas and Blackburn are expected to return. One will go to the planned 6-man rotation (forcing another RP to exit), but where do you put the other two? And who gets moved to create spots?

It's a great problem to have, but nobody is pitching himself out of a job. And, as the wise old saying goes, "You can put 10 pounds of stuff into a 5-pound bag".
The battles rage on...

Mack Ade said...

Re: bottom of lineup

To once again fail here is a declaration that the Mets continue to not develop ample talent in their system

Most of their last big wave crashed in AAA before hitting the shorelines

Mack Ade said...

6.23

That's Nunez ERA so far this season at Syracuse

Tom Brennan said...

Mack et al, what did I write about ad nauseum this winter? I know the quippy answer is everything was ad nauseum, but I wrote about Brent Rooker and his amazingly strong 2024 season based on his amazing aggressiveness at the plate - 45% of his at bats ended on the first pitch. I pleaded with Vientos and Baty to adopt that. I just read someone say that Vientos has been "too tentative", which is the opposite of the Brent Rooker approach. Baty? Aggressive in spring training....now? Too tentative.

I wish they had traded both this off season. Just be much more aggressive - be like Brent Rooker.

The pitching will get a real test this weekend. The As are an above average hitting team, and hitting conditions will be perfect.

Tom Brennan said...

To Mack's minors point, hitting in A ball has been good - but it is not the high minors, so who knows who will hit well in the higher minors. The hitting in AAA and AA so far, in frigid conditions, has been terrible. The only one resembling a hot hitter is Meneses, and his numbers are good but not WOW and Pete is at first base, so he is blocked.

Jett Williams continues to strike out. Morabito is 1 for 13 with TEN Ks. Etc. Ridiculous. Or, as my brother would say, "typical".

Mack Ade said...

It's not how they start

It's how they finish

Rds 900. said...

Terrible, Terrible conditions in the northeast. Let's see how they produce when the weather warms up.

Tom Brennan said...

Yes, it is how you finish, and conditions have been mostly terrible (remember, the first 6 games were in a dome and in Florida), But as terrible as the conditions have been, Baty, Vientos, Siri, Acuna and Taylor have been more terrible at 15 for 131 (.114), with an incredible 3 RBIs. No excuses are sufficient. Be aggressive, hit ball, bet on base....or find yourselves replaced.

Paul Articulates said...

It does not pay to write ahead. The last two days showed some chinks in the armor, but baseball is like that - you can't succeed every day, no matter how good you are. On Diaz, it looked like he couldn't get a good grip on the ball yesterday. That could account for more than just the crazy "Bull Durham" pitch he threw - loss of slider bite and fastball accuracy. Hopefully this just gets better with the weather and he doesn't revert to using an extreme mix of water and rosin that got him suspended last year.