10/23/23

Paul Articulates – Is competitive good enough?


After letting Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander go at the 2023 trade deadline the Mets front office was faced with some serious questions about whether they were just going to punt until their prospects came of age before challenging for a championship.  The word from Billy Eppler and Steve Cohen at the time was that they would “be competitive” in 2024.  David Stearns has since echoed those words.

So what does “competitive” mean in this context and is it good enough for a fan base that is starving for a shot at a world title?

Last year’s team won 101 ballgames, which I would argue is more than just competitive – it was on the edge of dominant until our southern rivals pushed us out of first place and then the unimpressive Padres sent us home in the first round of the playoffs.  But before shedding too many tears, I recall that those same Braves that took the East title last year lost to the 87-75 Phillies in the NLDS.  

Similarly, this year’s 104 win Braves team lost in the NLDS again to the 90-72 Phillies.  The Dodgers, who won 100 or more games in the past three years have not made it to the World Series  in those seasons, and we also saw 101 win Baltimore team fall out early.  In fact, three of the four remaining teams in the MLB playoffs this year won only 90 regular season games and the fourth won 84.

In the ever so diluted MLB playoffs where 12 teams get a chance to vie for a world title even if they were not able to outlast their division rivals, the new definition of “competitive” is good enough to make the playoffs.  If that goal is met, then anyone on a roll can end up at the top.  Look no further than the Philadelphia version of Red October, who never challenged for the NL East lead in the past two seasons, but have spent their fall months looking like a juggernaut.

Back to the Mets and their “competitive” 2024 version.  They don’t need to win the NL east with 100+ wins, they don’t need to lead the league in batting average, ERA, or OPS.  They need to be good enough to win enough ballgames to make the playoffs, they must be healthy enough to have all hands on deck in the stretch and throughout the playoffs, and they need to be resilient enough to forget about any past failures when they are faced with pressure-packed playoff games.

That can be achieved with the current roster with some modifications.  Clearly the starting pitching needs to be bolstered by a couple of quality starters – and hopefully some youthful ones at that to increase the probability of September-October health.  Their bullpen needs some youth as well – and there are many MLB relievers that are on expiring one year deals to choose from.  The lineup needs to hit more than last year, but many of the core players proved they could produce in 2022 so possibly one could add a power DH bat and an exceptional hitting coach to position them for success.

Maybe this is what the front office has been thinking all along.  They have loaded the pipeline with prospects to ensure strong future options, so for the coming season if you can get to 90 wins there is a shot.  Just like the Astros, Rangers, Phillies, and oh yeah – those 2015 Mets.

Ya gotta believe!


15 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

True.

The Mets missed the playoffs for one reason. No Edwin.

He is probably ready to pitch today. Today was 6 months too late.

We will, though, have Edwin back in 2024, which alone makes the team competitive.

Dallas said...

You also need guys like Harper/Schwarber/Wheeler who seem to step it up in the playoffs.

Its insane that Wheeler has been both the best pitcher (in terms of WAR value) & and one of the best post season pitchers ever since signing his contract

Woodrow said...

Competitive is better than what we were last year.. "Diaz will definitely help but they need more than him to be competitive. How about a coupl more starters, a good #5 hitkter,and a couple of the Baby Mets stepping up to be solid starters. That’s a lot.

Raw said...

It is not insane I Liked Wheeler a lot when he was with the Mets and I knew it was a big mistake letting him go.
The Mets front office has been making many mistakes over the years. I hope the new Sterns front office will not make mistakes like these in the future.

Mack Ade said...

You need two things to make the playoffs

1. A top level rotation

2. Those same starters to be healthy come the playoffs

Dan said...

The Mets have so much "dead" money right now, it is hard to see them moving on from anyone under a multi-year contract. That means fingers crossed on Marte in RF. Mauricio is probably best positioned at 2B where he can be mentored a bit by Lindor. So, it's McNeil to the outfield.

I am going to take Stearns at his word that Pete is staying for at least one more year. Lindor and Nimmo aren't going anywhere, and Alvarez is the catcher.

That leaves third and the DH. For the latter, my sense is that they will make a bid for Ohtani but fall short and have to "settle" for JD Martinez. There's the lone line-up addition, I believe.

At third, one for go around for Baty. Third base is a sort of black hole around MLB right now, with no good options available as Baty's replacement right now.

On the mound, it's Yamamoto or bust as the big get. I can see them packaging Vientos and a lesser arm like Peterson or Megill for another starter. Joey L. is probably the 5th starter in that case.

Here's radical thought: what about a reunion with Seth Lugo?


The bullpen ends with Diaz, with Raley and guys like Butto and Megill/Peterson added in the middle. Probably get another smaller deal or two as well. The Mets need 5-6 new pitchers. Here is where Stearns needs to earn his keep.

Tom Brennan said...

Dan, the job before Stearns is formidable. If the Edwin of 2022 returns, a lot less formidable. That injury cascaded into the team being blown up.

Man, letting Zack Wheeler go was total bonehead.

Mack Ade said...

I know for a fact that Lugo did not like being a reliever

As for first if Pete and Boras refuse to sign up past 2024 the Mets will trade him mid season so they can get something back for that loss.

First will go to either JT or Vientos

Third? Mauricio in 2025. Williams or Acuña will take over second

Mack Ade said...

Tom

Wheeler had ace mentality and he would have gotten that from the Mets then

Paul Articulates said...

Dan,
I am not advocating for this, but when you say "Third base is a sort of black hole around MLB right now", you are overlooking the availability of Matt Chapman. He is good, but with the likes of Mauricio, Baty, and the talent at the AA/AAA level, I would prefer an in-house solution at 3B. Baty must earn it in spring training or it is off to plan B.

Tom Brennan said...

Paul, I’d feel more confident if Baty and Vientos heated up down the stretch. Both sputtered.

Anonymous said...

Ohtani and Yamamoto! Tokyo,USA.

Amazin Z said...

Mack agree to an extent on Pete and 3rd and 2nd.

I don’t think Boras will let Pete sign before he hits FA. So with other teams knowing that would they trade more than 1 solid prospect for Pete for half a season. Why would we trade for 1 solid prospect when we would QO him if we lose him in FA and get a top pick and slot money back. It’s a wash. And if we are in a playoff race I don’t know if we trade him. Although I’ll trade him to the Cubs this Winter for SP prospects Horton and Ferris. Ferris stuff is off the charts. He has future Ace written all over him.

I agree and think Mauricio ends up at 3rd and Acuna at 2nd by mid season. Baty may get the first 2 months or so but if he flounders they’ll waste no time going to Mauricio. Acuna is a little more ready than Jett. So I think Jett spends most of the season in AAA to make sure he’s ready. But of we’re in a September playoff race he’ll be a nice addition during that run.

Amazin Z said...

You have to let Baty, Mauricio, and Vientos to a lesser extent, have a year to take the 3rd base job. If all fail Bregman is a FA in 2025 as an option. But you have to use this year to see if you have a future 3rd Baseman between Baty, and Mauricio. I’m pretty sure Mauricio’s glove plays there. Much better than Baty and Mauricio’s gloves do. It’s more a question of who has the best and most consistent bat.

Gary Seagren said...

On Wheeler his loss was of course on the Wilponies kind of their final "gift" to Met fans as if not signing Murph after 15' wasn't enough of a disaster and for me Selig not forcing the sale of the team after the Madoff blunder left us all wondering "what if".