Mack – ‘Stuff’ – Tommy Lasorda, Baseball Scouts, Garin Cecchini, Curtis Granderson, Dexter Fowler, Lucas Duda
Posted by Mack Ade at 8:00 AM
A good friend of mine, and ex-colleague, Barry Martin, wrote this on Saturday -
We're watching WS and it's bottom of the 9th.
Reminds me of a story Tommy Lasorda told me at lunch one time. I asked the Skipper one attribute he looked for in players.
"It's the bottom of the 9th, final game of the world series. Bases loaded, 2 outs, best batter in the league is up and count 3:2. I want players who are saying to themselves "hit the ball to me - I can make the play." I want players with that level of confidence."
Mack – Old school folks… old school.
I’ve been asked many times what do baseball scouts evaluate when you see them in the stands.
BBR (http://www.thebbr.com/baseball-community/professional-scouting.html) explains this in a simple way –
1. Arm Strength
3. Bat (Hitting Ability)
4. Power (Hitting for Power)
1. Arm Strength (Fastball Velocity)
2. Quality Breaking Pitch (Curveball or Slider)
3. Other Pitch (Change Up Preferred).
4. Delivery & Arm Action (Genetic)
5. Body Type & Frame (Genetic)
Scouts use 20-80 scale or 2-8 scale to grade players.
2 or 20 is bottom of scale & 8 or 80 is top.
Scouts grade with "2" numbers. The first number is current grade on 2-8 scale and 2nd number is projected future grade.
3: Well Below Average
4: Below Average
6: Above Average
7: Well Above Average
From Prospect Wire Baseball –
The truth about colleges and scouts: the vast majority of college recruiters and pro scouts attend most tournaments knowing exactly which players they are targeting. Some coaches perform so much background research that they may only attend one game of an entire tournament to see a specific player pitch and then go home. Contrary to parent's expectations, most college coaches and scouts are not sitting around in large bunches at every game, at every tournament, hoping that they randomly find good players. The point? Colleges usually have a specific plan if they attend an event. If a college coach is scouting your game, chances are he is there to see someone specific in your game. This is a player's best chance to stand out in a live game situation while he is watching! How do colleges get the initial player leads that drive them to a specific game? Word of mouth from someone they trust (scouting service, high school coach, travel coach), social media buzz, videos, camps.
Mack – Sadly I can confirm this.
Back in the day (2006-2011), I used to go to Grayson Stadium around 2pm to watch the players warm up before a 7pm game time. The only people in the stands were me and a handful of scouts.
I got to know some of them over the years… Billy Blitzer/Cubs, Joe Giarraputo/Cards, Carlos Gomez/Arizona, Clay Daniel/Arizona, Kevin Reese/Yanks… and many more.
It took a while but I eventually got them to have a conversation with me that led to the reason them were in town that trip. I remember I used to tout to them one of my favorite members of the team, and most of them would just smile. One finally admitted that he was there to watch a specific player that might be included in a multi-player trade between the two teams (BTW, the trade never happened) and I could save my breath.
Every once in a while parents of a particular player would arrive to the stands and I always went out of my way to introduce myself and welcome them to Savannah. The conversation would eventually get around to ‘who were the other men in the stands’ and I would tell them they were scouts and they just might be here to check out their boy.
It was the least I could do to keep the candle lit.
The Milwaukee Brewers have released Mets shortstop Gavin Cecchini’s brother, Garin, who was once one of the Boston Red Sox’ top prospects. You simply have to do more in this game than look good on paper.
You’ve just lost any chance of the Mets releasing or trading Curtis Granderson – http://www.outsidepitchmlb.com/curtis-granderson-wins-2017-roberto-clemente-award/55318 - you can’t off the currently most popular person in baseball?
Major League Baseball Trade Rumors (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/10/nl-east-notes-marlins-mets-cespedes-fowler-ruf.html) reports that Dexter Fowler could be a good option for the Mets in centerfield, if Yoesnes Cespedes doesn’t come back. They said that the Mets could sign Fowler, and bring back 2B Neil Walker for the same amount of money it would probably take to pay Yo. I would miss Cespedes but I would love the depth in the starting lineup with this option.
I’m very disappointed that the Mets are going to tender a $6.7mil offer to 1B Lucas Duda (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/). I just thought that Wilmer Flores and a cheap Kelly Johnson could have manned this position in 2017 until Dominic Smith was ready. But what the hell do I know?