2/21/22

Reese Kaplan -- If 2022 Ever Begins, Who's in the Starting Rotation?


By now you've all heard that the opposing sides are meeting every day this week to try to resolve the open issues that will lead to a new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).  While I am far from what anyone would ever confuse with an optimist, it does get my wheels spinning about things the Mets need to do for the 2022 season to take place.  

Towards that end I keep coming back to the subject of pitching as I recall correctly the Good Ship Bedpan for the number of pitchers and position players who fell off the playing field due to health issues.

Right now going into the season everyone is salivating over what both Jacob deGrom and Max Scherzer will be like for opposing hitters on back-to-back nights.  There's no need to rehash the statistics of what these two giant hurlers have done during their professional careers.  The issue of talent is never going to cross anyone's minds about either of them.

However, both have some questions about health and durability that the club can't take for granted.  In 2021 deGrom made just 15 starts that you need to look at twice to belive they actually happened at the major league level.  He finished the season with 7-2 record and a 1.08 ERA.  If he'd logged enough innings, Hall of Famer Bob Gibson would have had to give up his all-time single season record in that regard as he "only" achieved a 1.12 ERA back in 1968.  

The other number that jumps off the page is his strikeout ability with 14.3 per 9 IP as compared to just 1.1 walks over the same interval.  That makes for a ratio of strikeouts-to-walks of an other worldly 13.27.

By comparison, Scherzer looked a bit more durable but positively "ordinary" with a 15-4 combined record for the Nationals and Dodgers, a 2.50 combined ERA a 6.56 strikeout-to-walk ratio.  The encouraging sign is his 7-0 record for the Dodgers with a sub-2.00 ERA and even better strikeout performance.  However, he logged 30 starts which is 2-5 fewer than most regular starters aggregate in the course of a season.  

Behind them the Mets have a hopefully reborn Carlos Carrasco.  There's no way to describe his abbreviated season due to injury other than ugly.  His career shows he's a much better pitcher with a mark of 88-73 for Cleveland with a highly respectable WHIP of under 1.20 and averaging 9.5 strikeouts per 9 IP.  If he can achieve that level of performance for the Mets, then the deal sending infielders and pitching prospects for Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco will turn into a late positive for the Mets.

If you ever want to get Mets fans into a heated debate, bring up the subject of starting pitcher Taijuan Walker.  He was an All Star representative for the Mets last season based upon a first half that was dominant.  He pitched 13 starts in which he allowed 2 or fewer runs and his trip to the mid-summer classic was well deserved based upon an ERA of just 2.66.  Then came part two in which he saw his ERA for the year shoot up to 4.47 after completing 29 starts to approach what Scherzer did.  

However, bear in mind his health history where from 2018, 2019 and 2020 he COMBINED for just 22 starts, so the idea of losing steam on his highest ever start total since 2015 does seem to make some sense.  It's obvious he's got a quality arm.  Whether or not he can maintain health to me is a much bigger problem than his ability.  


Now is where it starts to get hazy and uncertain.  Who is your fifth starter?  Do you hand it over to the rushed prospect Tylor Megill whose 4.52 ending ERA was worse than Walker's?  Then there's David Peterson who is recovering from a fractured foot and horrific pitching stats prior to that surgery taking place.  

Also in the mix is 2021 acquisition Jordan Yamamoto who missed a lot of time due to injury.  His history is uneven with the Marlins after four good lower level minor league years from 2016 through 2019.  In the majors he's been pounded to a 6.05 ERA.  

San Diego lefty Joey Lucchesi went down for Tommy John surgery and is likely done for 2022 as well.  Late acquisition Trevor Williams did make three starts and finished with a 3.06 ERA.  Aside from one decent year in 2018 he's been largely an afterthought. Then we finally saw perennially injured southpaw Thomas Szapucki in 2021 for less than 4 innings of highly forgettable work.

So if there is a 2022 season taking place it would seem that GM Billy Eppler is going to have to look at both free agents and trade possibilities to bring in a higher level of pitcher to be part of the starting five.  It's understandable to rely on one or more of these guys as spot starters for injury or doubleheaders, but none has shown enough to feel confident that they are deserving to be seen every 5th day.  

Which open market pitchers should be considered is a story for another day, but it would seem that talent must be acquired from outside the organization for the club to feel more secure about its competitiveness for 2022.  

10 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

I may be in the minority, but I was thrilled with Tylor Megill in 2021. Yes, he was rushed. Other than allowing HRs and hitting the wall late season due to the jump in innings, he was great. How better to learn to pitch big league quality ball than to do it right where he did?

I am expecting 13 wins out of him and a 3.50 ERA.

Walker likewise burned out a bit. He should be fresh and needs to avoid that bad inning.

Logic might tell you that Jake, Max, Megill, Cookie, and Walker, with Peterson as a 6th, might be enough for the season. I doubt it will be, after witnessing 2021's starting pitcher revolving door. The most durable guy (Stroman) is gone.

For an average team, I think the next logical steps would be Adam Oller, Josh Walker, Cole Gordon, and if a starter was needed late season, JT Ginn. But a pennant contender would (especially after 2021) want at least one more strong starter, like Manaea or a pitcher from the Reds or As.

While Gus's idea on trading Alonso has merit, I don't think that happens in 2022. In 2023, with Baty, Vientos and Alvarez here on opening day (if they aren't traded) and possibly starting, and Mauricio possibly here by mid-2023, the changing of the guard will be underway. Trading for pitching from a position of strength will be very viable next off season.

Tom Brennan said...

Of course, there's always Harvey...

bill metsiac said...

I agree with Tom about Walker and Megill. All over MLB, there are multiple SPs, including top names that have been mentioned as Mets targets, who tailed off drastically in the 2nd half. I attribute this to the shortened 2020 season, with its lack of ability to build arm strength.

I don't fully understand why there was no effort to retain Stro, Hill, and Thor. While the latter is a health risk, the other two were definite assets last season.

I'm confident that Eppler will be aggressively in pursuit of more pitching as soon as the lockout ends, but the names are purely speculative at this point. If I had to guess at targets, I would say that the starters on the Reds and A's that are rumored to be available fit that description. But it's a question of who, not if.

Tom Brennan said...

My guess is with Stroman, something they did not like personality-wise, but I could be 100% wrong. Hill? Maybe they felt the old guy would finally get old...it happened to lefties Carlton and Spahn.

Need at least one more high quality starter arm, IMO. Too many pitchers these days are like Peanut Brittle.

RDS900 said...

I'd bet the farm that the Mets bring in one more quality SP to begin the season.

Viper said...

Is either Rodon or an open competition between Megill,Petersen, Williams and Szapucki.

Tom, Harvey would be cheap too. Speaking of Harvey, why would a pitcher still throwing in the 95mhp range not be successful while others like Colon, throwing at 88mph and mostly fastballs were?. It is said that the location is what's import so is Harvey at fault for not adjusting and learning other pitches that might have saved his career?.

Paul Articulates said...

I think that Megill and Petersen have the right mental approach, so with some refinement from the pitching coach, lessons from deGrom and Scherzer, and a little more experience these guys can be major contributors to the rotation. I just don't know if the impact will be immediate, or take a few years to mature. In the meantime, behind the two Aces, I expect Walker to regain his from from last year's first half. I have less confidence in Carrasco, so they guys that Reese mentions like Yamamoto or Williams will have to step up. I also think that to compete for a title in 2022, the Mets will have to spend on a middle rotation starter - hopefully a lefty like Carlos Rodon.

Tom Brennan said...

I kind of tend to forget Williams and Szapucki as possibilities. Shame on me for the former, understandable for the latter. Time for Szapucki to shake off all the injuries and get rolling. I'm sure he wants that more than all of us.

Harvey? Maybe the thoracic thing prevents precision pitching control. But, the last 3 years, 159 runs in 198 innings? Sounds like he is no more than a AA/AAA pitcher any more. He could, however, be the ace of his prison baseball team.

Tom Brennan said...

Carrasco will be 35 by opening day. We'll see if he's got anything left. I sure hope so. Last year, he pitched a little too much like - you guessed it - Matt Harvey.

Remember1969 said...

I would like to see one more good starter obtained in a trade or free agency.

I like Manaea as a lefty. Luis Castillo is a solid target, but a righty.

Rodon is a lefty and is probably the best bet among the remaining free agents, although he has a dotted injury history.

I am more bullish on Carraso than others appear to be. I am a believer in the line "he just knows how to pitch" and think he will be a effective pitcher for several more years even as he approaches 40. I attribute last year to the bone chips. We'll see.

So Max, deGrom, Carrasco, Walker, NewGuy, Megill, Peterson, that makes a pretty good starting seven. Yamamoto, Oller, and J. Walker at Syracuse rounds out a top ten staff pretty well.

My 'out there' fearless prognostication for 2022 is that Trevor Williams will be an excellent long reliever and solidify the 5-6-7 innings when the starters fall short. (Williams will take over for Lugo as the new bullpen favorite.