5/10/12

Top Ten Mets Pitching Prospects - Stephen Guilbert



In a rankings list I would like to return to a few times throughout the season, I will keep track of the top ten pitchers in the Mets system as I see them.


1.)    RHP Zach Wheeler. Wheeler gets the nod over Harvey due to his pedigree and a hot start at AA. While Harvey has started to master AAA and Wheeler is still a level lower, I am going with the higher upside here and the guy with the 1.75 ERA. Both need to lower their walk rate before getting a shot at Flushing, however, and that is something to keep an eye on. Season stats: 1-2, 1.75 ERA, 25.2 IP, 17 hits, 14 walks, 30 strikeouts, 1.5 GO/AO ratio.

2.)    RHP Matt Harvey. Harvey had a rough start to AAA but has allowed only 5 ER in his last 23 IP. Like Wheeler, walks continue to be an issue for Harvey, issuing 16 in 36 innings so far but the last four starts are an encouraging sign for Harvey and the Mets. Season stats: 3-1, 4.00 ERA, 36 IP, 36 hits, 16 walks, 32 strikeouts, 1.15 GO/AO ratio.

3.)    RHP Jeurys Familia. While Wheeler has started well and Harvey has come around after a rocky first few weeks, Familia is still trying to piece it together at AAA. The 5.06 ERA comes from a staggering 51 base runners allowed in only 26.2 innings which includes 25 walks. If Familia wants any shot to stay in the rotation, he will have to find the strike zone. The gap between Gorski and Familia is not as big as you would think. Season Stats: 2-1, 5.06 ERA, 26.2 IP, 26 hits, 25 walks, 29 strikeouts, 0.79 GO/AO ratio.

4.)    LHP Darin Gorski. Most would take Michael Fulmer, Cory Mazzoni, or promising righties like Domingo Tapia or Akeel Morris at this spot. We will get to all of them later but at the fourth spot I will take the Sterling Organization winner from last year, 6’4” lefty Darin Gorski. Why? After dominating single-A, he has found continued success after the tough jump to AA by striking hitters out and allowing practically nothing via hit. In 31.2 innings, he has allowed 21 (!) hits for a .186 average against. The walk rate is up but Darin has had a fantastic start to his 2012 campaign. Oh…he has not yet allowed a home run either. Season stats: 2-1, 2.27 ERA, 31.2 IP, 21 hits, 16 walks, 27 strikeouts, 0.59 GO/AO ratio (he is a flyball pitcher but this ratio still seems extreme to me).

5.)    RHP Michael Fulmer. The supplemental pick from 2011 has looked good for Savannah this year. The righty with a good fastball and impressive high school resume has struck out 20 batters in 22.2 IP thus far this year and has walked only six. While the three homers are a bit more than you would want to see at this level, it is a microscopic sample. I am just happy this 19-year-old is at low-A and performing well thus far. Season stats: 1-2, 3.18 ERA, 22.2 IP, 20 hits, 6 walks, 20 strikeouts, 0.85 GO/AO ratio.

6.)    RHP Domingo Tapia. Take out one nightmarish start from Domingo and he has dominated low-A ball this year. Featuring a blazing fastball and developing breaking pitches, the 20-year-old has put up an unfathomable 4.3 GO/AO ratio thus far this year. Read that again. He has had over four ground ball outs for every out recorded in the air. Take out the one bad start in West Virginia where he surrendered 8 runs, Tapia has allowed only 6 earned runs in the other 25 innings he has pitched. 23 strikeouts against 4 walks. Good fastball. Ground ball pitcher. Strikes hitters out. Does not walk many. If you were looking for a pitching prospect to get excited about, you just found him. Season stats: 2-1, 4.78 ERA, 26.1 IP, 26 hits, 4 walks, 23 strikeouts, 4.3 GO/AO ratio.

7.)    RHP Akeel Morris. There is so much to like about Akeel. He is young (does not turn 20 until November), throws hard, strikes hitters out, and oozes with potential. Currently at extended spring training, this St. Thomas native recorded 61 punch outs in 51.1 IP last year for Kingsport to the tune of a respectable 3.86 ERA. The concern with Akeel comes with his control. He walked 38 in those 51.1 innings. The potential is there, though, and while it might be a few years yet before he is ready for the bigs, he is certainly one to watch. Season stats: At extended spring training.

8.)    Colin McHugh. I know McHugh is not a pitcher who throws particularly hard or is nearly as flashy as other top prospects but he does enough right to get batters out and does it consistently. Isn’t that the idea after all? After striking out 139 batters in 129 innings last year splitting time between single and double-A, McHugh has picked up right where he left off. .198 batting average against speaks as much to his success as anything else. I know he is only in AA at the moment but if no one steps up and pitches well enough to hold the fifth starter’s spot in Flushing, why shouldn’t this guy get a shot at it? Season stats: 4-2, 2.62 ERA, 34.1 IP, 26 hits, 12 walks, 31 strikeouts, 1.11 GO/AO ratio. 

9.)    RHP Cory Mazzoni. 3-0 with a 3.00 ERA is a nice way to start the year at high-A. I keep reading good things about his makeup and potential but I want to see this 22-year-old start dominating the low levels. 18 strikeouts in 30 IP at Port St. Lucie while surrendering 32 hits is not going to do it for me. It is early but Cory needs to move up quickly given his age and pedigree. Season stats: 3-0, 3.00 ERA, 32 hits, 8 walks, 18 strikeouts, 0.82 GO/AO ratio.

10.)      RHP Erik Goeddel. Regular readers of this blog know how high I am on this promising righty. Swayed from returning to UCLA, Goeddel accepted the Mets over-slot offer and turned pro in 2010 but has not had an easy go of it due to injuries. Back just a couple weeks ago and pitching for St. Lucie, Goeddel has started to show the skill set that made him such an attractive over-slot pick in the 2010 draft. Yes, he is a 23-year-old playing at St. Lucie but the fact that a pitcher of his caliber is playing and playing healthy is a shot in the arm for the system. This kid could still be a SP2 if he stays healthy. Season stats: 1-1, 2.12 ERA, 17 IP, 13 hits, 9 walks, 13 strikeouts, 0.64 GO/AO ratio. 

Notes: I did not quite realize how much pitching talent this system has. Alex Panteliodis, Tyler Pill, Jeremy Hefner, Chase Huchingson, Chris Schwinden, Gonzalez German, Rafael Montero, Josh Edgin, Juan Urbina, Jack Leathersich, Logan Verrett and even Adrian Rosario could have (and maybe should have, in some instances) made this list. Looking back on it, perhaps Edgin should be in there. Maybe he and others will in future renditions of this list. There is quite a bit of right-handed talent in this system and while you can never have too much pitching, the future is bright for this system’s arms. Please comment if you feel I left anyone out, had someone too high, low, or made any myopic evaluations of these players.  

One final note: Yes, RHP Jenrry Mejia is missing from this list. I just cannot make a call on him until I see him pitch this season and see where he is at, what his role will be, and how he responds to any residual effects of rust from the arm surgery. I have been vocal about how important it is to give him every chance to start and if he does so and with success, I would put him behind just Harvey and Wheeler at this point.

LGM
Stephen

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

elvin ramirez?

Stephen Guilbert said...

Elvin Ramirez has had a nice start to the season and the fastball cannot be overlooked. Elvin's concern this year is what it has been for his career...control. His career walk rate is 4.7 BB/9 which is way too high even for a reliever and he has issued 7 free passes in 15.2 innings already this year.

The positives are: He's healthy, he's striking hitters out (19 in those 15.2 innings) and holding opposing hitters to a .145 average in AA and AAA. If he keeps this up, he might be a bullpen option for the major league club soon. I love his fastball but he needs to locate better. Plain and simple. I should have included him in the list of fringe pitchers. Thanks for pointing that out..he'll be on there on the next version.

Stephen Guilbert said...

Also, an update on Jenrry Mejia.

When I wrote this he had not yet made his first start. After pitching five successful innings (4 hits, 2 walks, 1K, 8:5 GO/AO ratio) pencil him in as our #3 pitching prospect.

The Mets should not even think about rushing him to the major league club at any time this year. Let him build up his arm strength and join Familia and Harvey at AAA. If any one of them proves they've mastered the level, bring 'em up. In my book all of them should play in the minors until September.

Anonymous said...

Stephen,

First of all, Great article. Loved reading about our up and coming prospects. Do you think Adam Kolarek should make this list?

Stephen Guilbert said...

Thanks for the question. Since getting drafted, Kolarek has gotten outs and strikeouts in bunches. He has been an incredibly effective reliever and a bright spot for Mets A-ball the past season plus.

My reservations on Kolarek are his age given his level. He's 23 years old and has a total of 24 innings above Savannah. When he moves up the ranks and continues to strike hitters out and pitch effectively, he will certainly be on the fringe of this list, if not on it. There is a ton of pitching in this system and a few intriguing relievers. Adam's one of them and he will be interesting/fun to watch.

Given the fact that he's a lefty who throws hard, I think he'll be just fine. I just want to see him advance through the system before making a definitive call on him you know?

The Closer said...

Nice job on this article! Just a couple names to mention that wouldn't be in the top 10, but in the honorable mention column that could someday turn out to produce for us:

Greg Peavey, Armondo Rodriguez, Luis Mateo, Taylor Whitendon, Jack Leathersich, Logan Verrett, Angel Cuan, Mark Cohoon, Zach Dotson, Steven Matz, Fernando Cabrera.

Point being, a list that we haven't seen in quite awhile with pitching talent and will certainly be deeper come mid June with hopefully our 13th pick, Lucas Giolito or Max Fried? I can dream right?

Mack Ade said...

great job, SG.

See... if you write something original instead of all that cut and paste crap, you get hits AND comments...

Stephen Guilbert said...

Hey TheCloser, thanks for the response.

I have a couple of those names on there (Logan, Leather, Cohoon) but Mateo I should have added and Peavey is up there as well. Matz had an injury setback and I am just not sure what his future holds at this point.

If either Fried or Gio are around we will take them. However, it looks unlikely that they will be. Also, you have to wonder about both of their probability of going to UCLA and how much we'd have to go over-slot to get them (with the new CBA draft regulations, going over-slot can be crippling to the rest of the draft).

As far as other pitchers in this draft class that could be available at #12, look at Andrew Heaney (pitchability lefty out of OK State, I believe), flame-throwing righty Lance McCullers Jr., crafty and improving southpaw Hunter Virant, enormous high school lefty Matt Smoral, and perhaps the most talented and undersized college pitcher in the draft, RHP Marcus Stroman.

We could see some pitchers fall further than you'd think too. Someone like Michael Wacha or Walker Weickel might be available there too (not nearly as high on either as many are, though).

Stephen Guilbert said...

Mack, people like lists. I'm guilty of that as well. Funny thing is though, you could make ten variations of this list with #s 4-10 all being different and all lists would be right.

I want to do a draft list soon but everything keeps changing on me!! ARGH.

The Closer said...

Just saw this on McCullers today, who's another guy I'd love to see the Mets draft;

(from Kiley McDaniel on ESPN.com)

"I've written about Tampa-area Jesuit High righty Lance McCullers plenty this spring but I saw his first playoff start and enough had changed that I needed to update my take.

Some buzz from Keith Law has McCullers as an option for teams in the top 10 with Billy Beane attending a recent start but many scouts still question, as I did, whether McCullers can be a starter. In the recent top 100, Keith said scouts have the odds that McCullers can start in the big leagues at 25 to 60 percent, and I have shifted from the bottom of that range to the top of it.


In the last month, McCullers has significantly quieted his delivery, almost eliminating the head violence and the spinoff to first base. He's now much more under control with focused, controlled energy to the plate and his velocity didn't suffer, hitting 98 mph in the first and 97 mph in the 7th in another complete game win. His curveball wasn't quite as sharp but still flashed plus potential and he also mixed multiple above-average changeups in a game for the first time I had seen all season. I've got McCullers graded as a mid first round prospect that I could easily see slipping into the top 10."

Mack Ade said...

re: McCullers:

this is just me but he really doesn't have any secondary pitches and his fastball has minimal movement...

2nd rounder - mid reliever

Stephen Guilbert said...

Per TheCloser's quote, he has a curve and a change and is a high schooler who throws in the high-90s. I just do not see how you can say he's a starter or a reliever just like we can't make that claim with Walker Weickel. To me McCullers has far and away the better arm but WW is ranked ahead of him on nearly every mock I see.

The reason you draft high school pitchers is so you can develop them. NONE are major league ready. NONE could even pitch in AA in their first season. You draft based on potential, ceiling, and the probability that you can develop them into something special. McCullers has so much potential that it blows my mind why he has fallen so far in mocks. He was a consensus top-5 before the season. You might think he had a poor spring but McCullers Jr. DID NOT ALLOW A SINGLE RUN. Not a single one. It's "experts" who destine someone to the bullpen that makes players like Lance fall in mocks. You cannot predict that sort of thing. His mechanics look better than ever and he's touching 100 with the fastball. He throws a curve and a change which are developing but what high schooler isn't "developing" their off-speed stuff? (okay, Giolito's mastered his. But most haven't).

Just like we're not claiming Tapia is destined for the bullpen despite a similar skill set (big fastball, developing breaking pitches, raw talent with potential), I'm not going to do it with McCullers either.

Bottom line is that I would love McCullers in the system if we can get him. Based on some recent mocks, he might even be available by our supplemental round. If we could get a Fried and a McCullers in this draft I would be very VERY happy. Crazy thing is I would take McCullers at #12 depending on who has been snagged already.

By the way, Tapia is perfect through 5.0 at PSL so far tonight, 5 strikeouts.

Mack Ade said...

good points

thank you for stepping up here, Stephen

we have 19 writers on MMs but so few post anything anymore...

Stephen Guilbert said...

My pleasure, Mack. More coming tonight/tomorrow hopefully.

What a start our pitchers had in the minors tonight. Chris Young, Tapia, Wheeler, Hefner all with impressive outings. The future is bright for this organization's pitching. Now if we could just develop some power hitters (see why I like Roache so much?)