12/6/18

Mike Freire - Fleeting Thoughts (Post Trade Edition)



Good Morning, Mets' fans!

I am putting this article together on Monday (12-03-18), so who knows how accurate this will end up being by the time it posts on Thursday morning?  Apparently, our new GM has a penchant for staying aggressive, so we may have another trade or two to digest between now and then. With that being said, I am going to try and keep an open mind during what is shaping up to be a very active Mets' off season. 

Yeah, I know....let's get on with it already!

1.  On the basic topic of our new General Manager (BVW), one thing that is certain is that he is NOT boring!  You have to think that he shared his vision with the Wilpons prior to getting the job offer, so they have signed off on this activity in a round about way.  I think that is potentially promising news because the Robinson Cano trade was an aggressive, "win now" type of deal that included ADDING salary to the team's overall payroll over the next five years.  Or, in other words, precisely the type of trade that you would NOT expect from our favorite club.

What is equally interesting has been the range of responses that the fan base has expressed since news of the trade broke.  Yeah, no one likes to lose talented prospects, but isn't this aggressive and bold approach EXACTLY what many of us were begging for during Sandy's tenure?  Now that it is happening, it seems that some folks are clamoring for some "sanity" or at least a more conservative approach. I suppose you cannot make everyone happy, right?

2.  The aforementioned trade has depleted our minor league system a little, losing a talented starting pitcher, a high upside reliever and a potential "five tool" outfielder.  Or, you could look at the outgoing players as a starting pitcher who will likely become a reliever at the major league level, an enigmatic reliever with control issues and a very young outfield prospect who is at least three or four years from making an impact at the major league level.  It's all about spin, I suppose.

Regardless, as much as I hate losing their potential, remember that we obtained a dominant closer in the process who is only 24 years old, himself!  And that does not even touch on some of what is still left behind in the system;

Pitching Prospects - Thomas Szapucki, Jordan Humphries, Anthony Kay, David Peterson, Ryley Gilliam (closer) and Simeon Woods-Richardson

Position Prospects - Peter Alonso, Andres Gimenez, Mark Vientos, Ronny Mauricio, Freddy Valdez, Adrian Hernandez and Francisco Alvarez.

The listed players are clearly not the only prospects that we still have, but it is a pretty nice group of prospects.  Heck, maybe someone like Ronny Mauricio is transitioned to the outfield and replaces what we "lost" in the trade?

You have to give up something to get something, right?

3.  Post-trade, it seems that everyone has an idea of where our current players will line up and at what position, etc.  I am no more of an expert then any of you, but I do have a question that I find intriguing to say the least.

What if BVW wanted Robinson Cano to become our third baseman, instead of our second baseman?

Before you outwardly scoff at the idea, it does make some sense.  As Cano ages, it makes sense that his range may start to become a bit less expansive, if you will.  Even though third base requires some range, it isn't on the same level as playing a middle infield position.  Plus, Cano is also supposed to have an above average arm so it should play well a bit farther across the diamond AND he even played two games at the "hot corner" for Seattle last season, so maybe the transition has already begun?  Oh and he provides more then enough offense (24 HR/96 RBI and 0.893 OPS career average) for a position that is "supposed" to be staffed with more of a power hitter then second base usually is.

That would clear the way for Jeff McNeil to become the every day second baseman and it would allow Todd Frazier to be the "super utility player" that best suits is skill set at this point in his career.

4.  In case you missed it earlier in this article, the Mets also got an electric closer in the form of 24 year old Edwin Diaz!  Among his many impressive statistics from this past year includes 3.2 WAR in less then 80 innings pitched, not to mention 57 saves and a psychotic 124 strikeouts at a very manageable salary.

Sure, losing Jared Kelenic is a tough pill to swallow, but fans need to remember that Diaz is coming to New York WITH Cano.  That seems to have been minimized due to Cano's age and salary, but it shouldn't be.  His addition to our bullpen will have a dramatic effect on the team's win/loss record.  However, I hope that BVW is not quite done with the bullpen, yet.

I want him to reach out and sign free agent Zack Britton, as well.  In addition to adding a nice left handed compliment to the right handed Edwin Diaz, Zack also has closing experience in his past so he can ease some of the load on our new closer OR he can close when Edwin is not available.  Seriously, look at Zack's statistics from 2014-2016 with the Orioles (All Star, Cy Young and MVP votes) and tell me he would not be a dominant addition to the overall bullpen.  Despite some injuries in 2017 and 2018, he was still pretty effective last year and was actually rounding into form down the stretch for the Yankees this year.

Well, that's all until next time.

Stay safe. 

8 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

Don't say "OR he can close when Edwin is not available". We want Diaz to always be available for save situations! But reality is likely that we'll need another guy who can save a few.

We really do have some very good prospects left, none of whom (other than Pounding Pete) will be of much help soon.

That image in your rear view mirror (Tebow) may be as close as it appears :)

Anyone who complains now has to promise to not watch the Mets in the World Series this year.

Robbie Cano at 3B - wait, doesn't David Wright play there? No? But we're still paying him? Yes.

bill metsiac said...

Since Brodie came on board, I have noticed a dramatic change in Jeff W. Previously content to avoid interviews, letting Sandy answer the questions, he now seems actually HAPPY. He seems to look forward to interviews, even with the feared Francesa, he smiles on camera, and uses "we" for his partnership with Brodie instead of dad (who in turn has faded into the background).

It's almost like he was intimidated and restrained by Sandy, and is enjoying freedom for the first time. He seems optimistic and looking forward to the future, instead of sullen and withdrawn.

I may be way off-base with this, but I like what I think I see. It's good to see owner and GM working as a team instead of boss/employee, and it bodes well for Brodie's plan to aggressively add talent.

Mack Ade said...

Let us see hoe this weekend goes in Vegas.

Tom Brennan said...

Meanwhile, Cards get Goldschmidt. Another strengthened opponent.

Reese Kaplan said...

Considering the Mets have Alonso, Smith and Frazier all available to play 1B, while Goldschmidt would have been a nice get, the fact remains it's not really a position of need. Then again, it didn't stop BVW from obtaining a 2B man when his own hit only .329 last year :)

Tom Brennan said...

I hear you, Reese. I do not think they should have pursued Goldschmidt due to the logjam, but other teams are also bringing out the heavy trading artillery.

Robb said...

I still dont like the trade. Mostly because I think we are being short sighted and miss-evaluating where the team is. However, ive come to grips with it. I still wont ever like adding overpaid 36 year olds with a ped suspension, but they should be better health permitting in 2019.

i am curious about what people thought of the Paul goldschmidt trade? I like ti for both teams. Cardinals get a good player but who will want big money after the year bc he's been underpaid and the diamondback werent going to give him the money so they got 2 mlb ready players who took a small steps back but could be core to their team that st louis wasnt sure on at the moment. realistic for both teams.

Anonymous said...

Hi guys:
Bill I believe you are dead on with Jeff
He seems to really follow BVW'S lead.
Hopefully BVW can talk him into,sneaking into daddy warbucks money vault?

Can you imagine if the mets pushed there salary upto $180 mill?
Adding Ramos Miller Britton and Harper.
Id rather have Harper than many
the whole lefty righty thing is in the Mets division most teams are RHP heavy
So if they sign Harper to play RF have Conforto play CF,he didn't play poorly there. Have an all LHH of lefty 2nd ,there's 4. with ramos Alonso Rosario and frazier from the right side.
Smith d'arnaud mcneil lagares out of t12 hitters 6rhh 6lhh
but I can only imagine,BVW can work some magic

Steve