The regular season is done (and so are the Mets & Yanks), so it is officially "Hot Stove" season in New York. For the next few weeks we will run an open thread at 11am to discuss the many possibilities in the Mets' first off-season headed by a President Of Baseball Operations (POBO). There are many intriguing story lines and rumors already spinning around in the media, so this is your opportunity to weigh in with your thoughts.
First topic of the off-season: What do you think is the right approach to re-build the Mets' starting pitching for 2024?
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Thank you for this series.
I have always enjoyed the Hot Stove season more than the regular season
Of course I like taking the garbage out more than recent regular seasons
First for Stearns?
Well not much can be done until baseball ends
The first thing could be one of three
Start.the interview process for a manager
Set up series of meetings with internals to get a feel for what he has inherited
If legal start the.process of the end game of signing Yamamoto
Hmm
Had hoped for some participation here
Mack,
First item should be signing Yamamoto.
The second item decides where we are with Pete.
The third item determines what pitchers are available in trades and at what cost in prospects.
Fourth item should be who do we want to manage this team and are they interested.
I'm not sure if Yamamoto can be approached yet
Isn't his season still going on?
Pete has requested a private meeting with Cohen to express his displeasure with the firing of Buck
May take awhile for he and Stearns to warm.up
I get it that Pete liked Buck, but in my opinion Pete is being a little naive. Having a new POBO almost guaranteed Buck's departure. That's how this business is run and Pete, though disappointed, should understand that. He's a grown man and needs to understand how this works. If Pete really is that upset about Buck getting shown the door, I guess he can test free agency, his choice.
My guess right now is he is strongly considering it
I would like you to write an article on the rule 5 draft decisions the Mets need to make by the end of November.
Any idea of what Mets are going to be playing in the winter leagues?
Which players on the 40 man roster will become free agents after the World Series?
I'm sticking with pitching here, so:
1) Keep Edwin Diaz in bubble wrap so it does not look like he got traded to the Marlins - I hope to never again see Edwin MIA
2) Yamamoto
3) Pray hard
I'm retired from writing
Just add comments to others
Raw, there is a story that ran yesterday on the Arizona Fall League. Nine Mets minor leaguers are playing. You can also use the link at the top of the page to get lots of AFL information.
How about a guy to bat fifth? He could be a DH,OFer,3B? It be nice to see them score more than three runs more often. Woodrow
This won't be his first move
Playoffs need to end before he can deal with roster needs
On to the main topic: Starting Pitching.
Most everyone is in agreement that Senga and Quintana have made their case to be starters next season. Most also agree that Cookie Carrasco has done his time and will not return.
That leaves SP1, SP4, and SP5 slots. I don't think Senga's "Rookie Of the Year" quality season earns him the top spot next year unless there is no bonafide SP1 available in free agency. SP4 and SP5 are up for grabs - Lucchesi, Megill and Peterson are in the conversation every year, but only show flashes of capability in the season mixed in with flashes of incapability. That puts them behind Butto for SP4. There are plenty of "close" guys like Vasil, Scott, Hamel, Tidwell, and Suarez that will be anxious to show their stuff in spring training.
But that leaves me feeling empty. A starting rotation of Senga, Quintana, Butto, Lucchesi, and Peterson (feel free to substitute any of the other names for the last three) is not going to win us 100 games no matter what the lineup looks like. Stearns needs to go shopping, and Yamamoto is the first place to look.
Raw, we’ll get to it in due time. We need to pace ourselves.
Sorry for being late to this party, but my thoughts on starting pitching are
(1) Yamamoto
(2) FA - Jordan Montgomery is the only arm out there that I would think about at this point. I know Flaherty and Giolito have trended down, but they are on the right side of 30 and have had previous success. For small dollars, either may be worth a look in spring training.
(3) Make sure Peterson, Megill, Butto, et. al. have the right plan for the winter and come to ST completely prepared. All three threw some good innings late this year and could be stable 4th and 5th (or 6th options)
(4) Trades. I don't have any names in mind at this point. Nobody is going to give up good young pitching without getting (fleecing) something in return.
(5) Outside the box thinking. Perhaps they could rewrite the book a bit and implement a plan where they try to have three pitchers each pitch three innings, three or four times a week. They'd need to stretch out some relievers to throw more pitches, but limit the starters. There are a lot of things to consider with this strategy (can a "short-starter" throw 40-50 pitches every 4 days? Would everyone be on the same schedule? etc. etc.) I never liked the 'bullpen games' because that one guy still only pitches one inning, so they need to blow through at least four pitchers to find 9 innings, but if they knew they were doing 3-3-3, they could get the right guys to do it. More on this topic when we get to the bullpen.
(6) Reunions don't work and old guys don't work, but Seth Lugo had a pretty decent year with SD as a starter this year. Worth a look for a back end rotation guy? They could do worse.
Signing Yama is a must, even if it’s an overpay in years and/or money. He’s the Ace we need and with no QO attached. We
then have our Ace and our #2 SP (Senga) locked up for 4 years together. Sign either Montgomery or E Rod for the #3 spot. Both are Lefties, both have no QO attached, and both pitched in NY and Boston respectively and know the pressure of pitching in two of the toughest cities to pitch in.
Then one of Lucchesi, Megill, Butto, or Peterson in the #5 spot. One of them becomes the long man and the other two go back to Syracuse or trade one of them if you get a decent offer.
Top priority sign Yamo. Monty or E Rod good #3 choice...two strong set up guys. Otto inconsistent and stolen bases very concerning. Two or three 2+ inning guys amoung the 4 mentioned above. One of them gets #5. One possibly traded.? Seems like we will have 3 possible #5s waiting in aaa. Give serious look in ST to Lavender and Gervase.
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