7/28/25

THE BRETT BATY PARADOX


Brett Baty's biggest problem is that the Mets fanbase has the most extensive collection of professional hitters, analytics gurus, and former scouting directors of any MLB fanbase. 

Just ask them, that's exactly what they'll tell you...


#MetsNation seems to be split into 2 groups, those who recognize Baty's immense potential, and the second group who believe Baty has zero potential based on that they've seen thus far at the MLB level. Below is a simple breakdown of historical data that compares Baty's production during his time in the AA Eastern League stacked up against arguably some of best hitters in the MLB. Obviously, this is just one component of how to gauge a prospect's potential, but with the rise of analytics it's often overlooked and trivialized. 

 

His statistics at AA provide a glimpse into what made Baty a Top 20 overall prospect in 2023. AA Eastern League is one of the most important test a prospect in the minors will receive, because it is stacked with a high level of competition, pitcher's parks, and depth of quality pitching because the franchises who are associated with Eastern League have historically allocated heavy financial resources into developing pitching.

 

As a prospect, there are 2 scouting grades that really standout when assessing their potential as a hitter, the "hit tool" grade and the "power tool" grade on the "Scouting 20-80 scale". In 2023 MLB.com ranked Baty as their #21 overall prospect in the Minors, grading him as having a 60 "hit tool" and a 70 grade "power". Baseball Prospectus had him ranked as high as #17, giving him a 60 "hit" tool grade and 70 "power" grade.

 

Below are the players who received the grades of 60 and higher for both as Baty did in 2023 as per MLB.com:

 

2022:

                              B. Witt Jr - K.C.

                              A. Rutschman - BAL

                              J. Rodriguez - SEA

                              S. TORKELSON - DET 

                              R. GREENE - DET 

                              A. VOLPE - NYY 

                              B. BATY - NYM 

 

2023:

                              G. HENDERSON - BAL 

                              C. MONTGOMER - CWS 

                              B. BATY - NYM 

                              T. JOHNSON - PIT 

 

2024:

                              J. HOLLIDAY - BAL 

                              J. Caminero - TAM

                              W. LANGFORD - TEX 

                              D. CREWS - WAS 

                              W. JENKINS - MIN 

                              S. BASILLO - BAL 

                              C. KEITH 

 

2025:

                              R. ANTHONY - BOS 

                              W. JENKINS - MIN 

                              K. CAMPBELL - BOS 

                              N. KURTZ - OAK 

                              J. DE PAULA - LAD 

                              J. MADE - MIL 

 

What is clear from the list above is there simply aren't that many prospects graded by the industry to have the same skillset as Baty has, regardless of what he's done at the MLB level. From a scouting perspective Baty has an elite combination of tools which have been on display at every stop in the minor leagues, but simply hasn't been unlocked at the MLB level. Analytics provide a very simple explanation, which is echoed throughout the Mets fanbase, he hits too many ground balls, which is undeniably true.

 

What is being overlooked is the fact he spent 108 games at the MLB level, after virtually skipping AAA, and held a .212 BA in 353 AB's. Yes, .212 isn't anything to write home about, but the difference between Baty hitting .212 and .283 in the same number of at-bats is 25 hits. That's 1 extra hit ever 4 games that would've raised his batting average 70 points. 


Even if he was able to find a way to muster an extra 10-13 hits in 353 AB's, you're talking about a batting average in the .240-.250 range for a prospect who skipped AAA. That's basically one hot-streak away from going from looking overmatched, to showing that you are hitting above the league average, despite skipping AAA entirely (only played 10 games before being promoted). 


That is what the Mets player development brass see, that's what the Manager sees, and that's what the majority of industry people see.

 

Giving up on a player whose toolset and career numbers in the Minors are on par with some of the better hitters in the league is simply counter-productive for an organization like the Mets who are trying to complement their nucleus of big money veterans with an infusion of young, controllable impact talent. Mark Vientos' 2024 season is a great example of why giving up on talent prematurely or overemphasizing analytics is dangerously capable of setting a franchise back.

 

Baty offers similar potential to what we saw with Vientos in 2024, if the Mets can figure out a way to improve upon his 40-50% ground-ball rate, among other things. Without regular playing time, it is incredibly difficult for any prospect to establish himself as an MLB hitter. Case in point Corbin Carroll, unanimous 2023 ROY, struggles in 2024, but re-establishes himself as a force of nature in 2025. 

 

The market rate for the production we saw from Vientos in 2024 from a veteran potentially costs as much as $15-20 million a year, teams committed to being financially prudent must give very long runways to former Top 20 prospects the necessary time to establish themselves.

 

That's potentially tens of millions of dollars in annual savings, if the Mets are able to unlock Baty's tremendous potential, as they were able to do with Alvarez - 2023, Vientos - 2024. Savings which can be used to fortify other roster spots or maintain a manageable payroll.

 

The Indians didn't trade Rickie "Wild Thing" Vaughn for a reason, the same logic applies to high-ceiling prospects like Baty, among others.

 

That in a nutshell is the "Brett Baty Paradox".





 

20 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

Nice analysis, Mike. I was off the Baty train, as I likewise had been off the Gilbert and Parada slumping trains, but Baty is getting me back on it.

And the point of several non-hits sinking a batting average came into play yesterday as Baty was flat out robbed of a double by Dom Smith yesterday.

I just want greater plate aggression on strike one from Baty, and him making another tweak that I will cover this coming weekend that will also help Baty if implemented.

Mack Ade said...

I hope the Mets stick with Baty but I don't believe his full potential will be seen until next season

Major league hitting against top pitchers in the game simply takes time

He will get better this season but this process simply takes time for most young batters

ANGRY MIKE said...

Thanks Tom! I’m glad he’s getting more AB versus lefties this year, only way he’ll improve. You’re right, I think Baty & the other Baby Mets watch too many first pitch strikes, curious if that’s on Chavez?

ANGRY MIKE said...

Exactly, if Baty & Alvy can continue to reduce the disparity in production, from their ‘hot” months & “cold” we have a dangerously deep lineup. Like you said just takes time.

Mack Ade said...

You are correct

Leave these two alone and just keep playing them

Third and catcher will be written in ink next season for years

ANGRY MIKE said...

Would love for the same to happen with Vientos at DH & Mauricio at 2nd, Baby Mets Revolution incoming!

Paul Articulates said...

This is a very revealing article. We tend to get caught up in current trends and give up way too early on players. This analysis shows that Baty still has potential and value for the organization. Makes me think hard about how the future will play out.

Vtmet said...

One of the main things with Baty is his Splits, particularly his home vs away splits. Home OPS: .905; Road OPS: .485; vs RHP: .746; vs LHP: .544; Night: .772; Day: .624...it's like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. If he only played night games vs RHP at Citi Field, he's Babe Ruth and Mario Mendoza if he only played day games vs LHP on the road.

Vtmet said...

We have 4 young infielders that have a lot of talent once they can get over the mental aspects of playing MLB on a daily basis. Mauricio is probably the closest to being there: batting lefty, Ronnie has Daryl Strawberry power with Jose Reyes speed. Vientos has Dave Kingman or Alonso type of power. Acuna has Reyes type of speed with Lindor type of defense. Baty has Wayne Garrett type of defense with probably Garrett or Danny Heep type of offense.

Do you go with the guys with the highest ceiling (Mauricio and Vientos), or the guys with the MLB ready defense ( Baty and Acuna). I would go with Mauricio and Vientos, and get Acuna accustomed to center field

JoeP said...

Can't believe how stark his splits are, never noticed that.

Baty has always been the player I thought had the highest upside of the baby Mets. If he shows continued growth by seasons end, we may have ourselves a keeper. He needs to end around .250 with 20 homers this year.

I blasted Alverez all season, while in my opinion he will never be a good defensive catcher, he does call a good game. If the changes remain in place offensively all of a sudden, our lineup is much deeper. He has to stay away from swinging from his heels on every pitch, while laying of the off the plate stuff.

Mauricio to me should be the lefty DH/PT 3B. He should not receive many right handed AB's.

Vientos should be part of a pitching trade.

ANGRY MIKE said...

Thank you Paul! It’s great to see them going with the youngsters at critical point in the season & watching them help put wins on the board.

ANGRY MIKE said...

Can’t argue with the numbers, hopefully with more experience facing lefties at the MLB level helps him find consistency.

ANGRY MIKE said...

I was hoping they were going to plug Acuna in CF at least a couple times a week after McNeil returned, why’d they have him spend a considerable amount of time to learn and not even see what they have.

ANGRY MIKE said...

That’s one of the things I noticed most about Alvarez’ recent highlights from AAA, he was letting the ball travel deeper and then using his plus bat speed & not trying to swing out of his shoes. Let’s not forget he’s only 23, there’s still plenty of time for him to improve his defense.

Vtmet said...

Yeah, hopefully his Splits are just a matter of his comfort level and as he feels more comfortable at the MLB level, the bad numbers will start to even out a bit. Nimmo used to struggle vs LHP, and now he hits them pretty decently. Alonso used to struggle at Citi Field and vs LHP, and he's improving in these situations.

As far as Acuna in CF, I don't understand why the Mets haven't given him some time there at the MLB level.

Vtmet said...

IMO, trading Vientos or Acuna at this point makes no sense. In the past off-season, you would have gotten a good return on Vientos...right now, you would get pennies on the dollar of his value (especially with Alonso entering free agency at the end of the year...last year there were several other good 1B in his FA class and Vlad was about to hit the market this season).

Steev said...

As I see it, the Mets have a surplus of baby infielders. I include Williams in this list. Also with an eye on Gilbert and (more so) Benge. I see Baty becoming the 3rd baseman. The numbers lately seem to be going in the right direction. Shortfall seems the ground balls and lack of homers. I see Mauricio as the DH and fill in at 2nd and 3rd. This would make Vientos and Acuna expendable. (See Williams bumped up the AAA in August and competing for 2nd next spring. Gilbert and Benge are the near future CFers).

Steve said...

Not sure how minor league options all work. I do know that Vientos is out of options. Last year for Baty?
Can a contending team afford to keep a player on the major league active roster as he tries to work things out?

Tom Brennan said...

Steve and Vtmet, Vientos having no remaining options is bad.

If you keep him past the trade deadline, and he still slumps badly, you can’t send him down - some teams would want him. But if you keep him on the team and he costs you critical games….

Tom Brennan said...

Yes, you can keep a guy, unless they are in a neck-and-neck pennant
race. Then, practically, you can’t let him work things out at the MLB level if he is struggling badly. You don’t want to end up missing the playoffs by one game.