Matt Harvey to have TJS.
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We will talk more about the Harvey decision in 'The War Room' on Sunday.
Mike Kerwick – Mets Top 3 Prospects:
1. Noah Syndergaard, right-handed starter He could become the most interesting piece of the trade that sent R.A. Dickey to the Blue Jays and Travis d’Arnaud to the Mets. A true blue-chip prospect.
2. Rafael Montero, right-handed starter Montero had better numbers than Syndergaard this season. He turns 23 later this month – the same age as Mets starter Zack Wheeler.
3. Brandon Nimmo, outfielder Nimmo had an on-base percentage of .397 at Class A Savannah this season. But he is only 20 and still years away from the big leagues. - http://www.northjersey.com/sports/226415461_Mets_top_prospects.html#sthash.Ds1cJA66.dpuf
Mack – I was just asked recently if I now thought that Nimmo would make it I the MLB. I really like how he progressed this past year during the time he wasn’t injured. Wrist injuries are tough. There’s a period of time you don’t play and then there is a period of time you play to build back up your wrist strength. That time usually (and, in Nimmo’s case) stats out badly… but… if you extract all that out of Nimmo’s numbers, he had an all-star season in Savannah. No, the power never developed, but I’m not sure that was how he attempted to play the game in that God awful pit of a stadium. St. Lucie isn’t that famous for its home run hitters either, but let’s give him another year. For now, ETA: 2017
Bleacher Report –
The only consistent part of the Mets' infield this season was at second base where Daniel Murphy played in 161 games. Murphy hit a solid .286 with 188 hits and 78 RBI. He was eighth in the league with 92 runs and sixth in stolen bases with 23. Murphy's power numbers were up a bit with 13 home runs and 38 doubles. His only negative was his on-base percentage, which dropped due to his lack of walks.
Mack – What is it about this guy that never allows us to accept what he does good? Every team in this sport lives with defensive deficiencies from decent hitters in this game. Whhy can’t we do this here and move on to other positions with bigger problems?
Matt Cerrone expect to hear the Mets are interested in are SS Stephen Drew and Jhonny Peralta and OF Nelson Cruz, as well as trade talk involving A’s SS Jed Lowrie, Dodgers outfielders Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp, as well as the Rockies triumvirate of Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez and Michael Cuddyer.
Mack – I found Cerrone’s approach to his post puzzling. He seemed negative about this kind of approach in the off-season and suggested that Alderson might be going down the wrong road if he pays guys like this too much money. Here we go again with spending too much of Wilpon’s money. Look, no one is overpaid in a two year contract. It’s the five year one’s that get criticized and come back to bite you in the ass. Nothing was worse than the Frank Francisco fiasco and even that didn’t cost Alderson that much heat, but he has to get that deal out of his head and take four to five chances here. This team needs two new outfielders, a new first baseman, and a new shortstop. Some of these players can be gotten through free agency but the others have to traded for using your excess of positional players (Flores, Murphy, Davis, Duda) and a number of your young prospect pitchers.
You just about table this whole mess for two years if you sign Peralta, Drew, Marlon Byrd, and trade for Tulo. You’ve got your team for the next two years.
Joe Janish –
You may have heard the news that Dusty Baker has been fired by the Cincinnati Reds. With that news comes the first rumor of the winter. On MLB-XM this morning, Reds announcer Marty Brennaman spoke at length regarding the Baker firing and where the Reds were headed going forward. But who will go? Brennaman suggested that there are whispers that Gold Glove second baseman Brandon Phillips could be on the block. Not because he lacks leadership, but because he may be their most valuable tradeable asset
Mack – A guy like Phillips will cost you. First, he’ll play 2014 as a 32-year old (.281, 18-HR, 77-RBI) and the Reds will be looking for some ‘clubhouse leaders’ to help turnaround the attitude in the clubhouse. He’s signed through 2017 ($11mil, $12mil, $13mil, $14mil) and, yes, he’s a Gold Glove second baseman. Who wouldn’t want him, but what ‘clubhouse leaders’ do the Mets have that they can give away? I don’t see a match here.
11 comments:
- Murphy : a stronger team could live with Murphy. If the Mets had an everyday leadoff hitter and more run production, Murphy could be more of a fit. However, the team has a lot of holes, Murphy now has trade value, and a .733 OPS (including a sub .320 OBP) is replaceable. He's the type of player and established contender would add as a complimentary piece.
- Nimmo: I think you hit the nail on the head. When healthy, Nimmo was phenomenal. If healthy next year, I'm expecting big things at PSL.
I don't like the idea of Phillips, not for his contract and what it would take to deal for him. If the Mets were going to trade for a high-priced veteran I'd rather they look into Kinsler. He's being pushed out of a job and would be more of a salary dump, likely costing less in players.
U have to trade Murphy while the kettle is hot, I am all for Flores or young taking over... We have other in house options, so u might as well go for it. Murphy's numbers were very good this year so they shouldn't be discounted when u put him in a trade for a bigger piece(e.g. For Tulo). I would put him and gee in a deal for Tulo with a couple of much younger prospects and considering we are taking the whole salary back of Tulo, that should be enough...Colorado gets 2 proven guys as well as much needed salary relief moving forward.
I totally think that signing Stephen Drew or trading for Jed Lowrie would make a big difference, though Drew is the preferable option because you get basically the same production without giving up an asset. Signing one of Byrd and Nelson Cruz would be smart too, because this outfield truly needs a power bat, and we have to hope that Cruz wasn't all roids or that Byrd isn't a one-year wonder. Mac, what would you give up in a trade for Tulo? I mean you'd have to start with either Wheeler or Syndergaard, plus a lot more, for one player? I feel like that would hurt us more as a team than it would help.
Stop proposing trades for Tulo that don't involve Syndergaard or Wheeler. Maybe Colorado would take Montero, Gee, Murphy & Ike/Duda but I dont know. Tulo is to the Rockies what Wright is to us. He is the face of their franchise. No way they move him without getting back their new face.
Kevin we are taking back over 100 mill off their hands, so no i don't think we have to give them either wheeler or synd!!!
you're wrong Zozo...
it doesn't work that way...
you don't get a player like Tulo unless you deal a Wheeler...
we all probably should step away from anything about Tulo and deal with reality.
Hey... I got one... prospect for prospect...
Joc Peterson or Castellanos for Rafael ?
I agree Mack and Kevin.
Any Tulo deal that the mets make would need to have either Thor as the centerpiece, or DarNo AND Montero as a starting point. I don't think they'll be trading their "David Wright" unless they're getting a big time package.
Their general manager is good at trades. He got a big package for Ulbaldo Jimenez a few years go and even though that deal hasn't paid off big, it was like what the Mets got in terms of prospects when they traded Dickey.
As for trading Murphy, I'm good with it as long as it brings the Mets what they lack....a run producer. Remember, a Murphy deal probably wouldn't do that. I could see them getting a big outfield prospect, but who is going to trade them a ML power hitter for Murphy?
This will get tricky because it'll likely need to be a package of players/prospects, going from the mets to another team in order to get a good outfielder or SS. Remember what Murphy gives you. He's basically an ideal 2 hitter that hits a lot of singles and doubles hole playing below average second base. Nobody is looking to trade power hitters for that unless they're looking to move prospects. This whole trade Murphy idea really not works if you're looking for prospects.
I think the mets need power. Legit ML power hitters. The way they get that is to buy them or trade for them. Trading or them will cost their pitching prospects which I don't think they'll do unless it's a Fulmer or Mazzoni type pitcher. Thor and Montero aren't going anywhere. The mets already need two starters after losing Harvey, it'll be insane to trade away their best depth.
I'd sign Abreu, take that big risk and hope for the reward. He's capable of the most bang for the Buck and it'll allow them to have cash left over to fill out the roster.
I mean, all these Cubans are basically the best bargains on the market. His signing would instantly impact the Mets brand and ignite a fan base that simply doesn't believe that they want to make a serious run in 2014. It would help fans forget that Harvey is headed for surgery. It would anna message to remaining free agents that the Mets are contenders and a great place to end up.
If the Mets are interested in winning and influencing their fan base to come back to Citifield, signing Abreu would be perhaps their greatest advertisement. Who among us wouldn't instantly recharged as a diehard Mets fan if they signed him?
Charlie -
I honestly think the Mets are fucked for another year.
They need to sign a few intermediate free agents in the 2/3 year range and circle the wagons until their rotation reforms in 2015.
Mack, is it so hard to envision a rotation of Santana, Wheeler, Niese, Gee & Mejia, with Dice-K and Harang for depth, . . . or Santana, Wheeler, Niese, Arroyo, & Gee with Mejia added to the depth brigade as a superior rotation capable of propelling a team to the playoffs?
If Alderson follows the plan he outlined before the Harvey decision, (since I think he believed Harvey was lost for 2014 all along) and strengthens the outfield and adds a quality shortstop, and maybe even uogrades first base, you can still have a contending team.
I love the Santana idea and I expect Mejia to be 100% on opening day.
BTW, so will Familia who could be stretched out.
There are plenty of options and the Santana idea is the best one, but it's going to have to take some serious meeting of the minds here...
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