10/25/13

Mack Ade – Morning Report – 10-25-13 – Tyler Pill, Jose Bautista, Bill Mazer, Carlos Beltran

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Tyler Pill  - 12:12pm Oct 23  - “Hey Mack is Tyler, shoulder is all healed up and ready. Re-hab ended about 3-4 weeks ago.”

                Mack – Let’s not forget Tyler Pill.

                Pill was a hugely successful starter out of CSF (2011 junior: 16-G, 14-ST, 6-1, 2.08, 1.00, 90.2-IP, 99-K) that was drafted in the 4th round of the 2011 draft by the Mets.

                As is typical in the Mets organization, he was started too low in 2011 (GCL, Brooklyn) and began the 2012 season for Savannah (3-4, 2.61, 51.2-IP, 54-K). He finished up in St. Lucie going 11-G, 10-ST, 6-1, 2.05, 1.09.

                2013 brought arm problems in Binghamton. He was first shut down in March with a ‘Bennett lesion (a buildup or mineralization in a ligament located in the back of the shoulder capsule) which resulted in season ending surgery.

                The rotations are a little crowded right now, but I put him right back in with the other seven starters (Gabriel Ynoa, Rainy Lara, Matt Bowman, Hansel Robles, Angel Cuan (out of respect to ‘Hobie’), Domingo Tapia, and Alex Panteodes.               

Welcome back, Tyler.

 

There’s only so much we as Mets fans can talk about at this point prior to the Hot Stove season. We’re not trying to extend any contracts and no one on the other teams can be approached yet. Still, there is speculation about a few players, one especially being Toronto’s outfielder Jose Bautista.

Toronto has already told the world that they are willing to listen to offers for Batista, who has two years at $14mil per left on his contract. Toronto is also a very Met-friendly trade team who I’m sure would be willing to sit down with Sandy Alderson to discuss this.

This may not be as hard as it looks on paper. He will play 2014 as a 33-year old and, due to injuries, only played in 210 games total in 2012 and 2013. You can forget the 54-HR, 124-RBI season of 2010, but, if healthy, he still could be the kind of bat the Mets could put behind David Wright for a couple of years.

One last thing… remember me saying he only played in 210 games over the past two years? Well, he still produced 55-HRs and 138-RBIs in those 784 at-bats. The boy can still hit.

 

Marty Appel

                Sorry to hear about the passing of broadcasting legend Bill Mazer this afternoon in Westchester. Long before there were sports talk radio stations, Bill did a sports call-in show on WNBC in New York which pioneered the concept, at least in this market. He had a distinguished career in Buffalo before hitting NYC, and later was "The Amazing Mazer" doing Sports Extra (another pioneering effort) and local sports on WNEW/WNYW Channel 5 in New York

 

St. Louis –

                Kevin Siegrist represents 30 homegrown players who contributed at some point this season. That figure includes 29 players drafted or signed as non-drafted free agents during or after 2005, the year when owner Bill Dewitt bankrolled an overhaul of the scouting department and farm system.

The strategy has not remained static, either. It's evolved, especially within the farm.

While old-fashioned scouting continues to be paired with new-age computer analytics - a modus operandi since '05 - St. Louis' player development system in the past three seasons has shifted to an even greater calculated approach.

Young prospects are challenged in more difficult leagues; some position players must learn other positions; and pitchers are shifted into roles that they likely would hold down in the big leagues. More importantly, instruction in the farm, particularly for position players, is the same from the rookie leagues to St. Louis.

                Mack – I walk away from this article knowing that the secret here lies in the scouting system. They are the guys that hunt out the kind of talent teams like St. Louis seem to churn out season after season.

 

Carlos Beltran

                The possible loss of Carlos Beltran in the World Series could create a considerable reduction in his value during the Hot Stove season. Though it didn't happen... let’s face it... Carlos went into this series a little long in the tooth and the run into the wall could cost him any chance of getting that three year contract he’s looking for.

                It would be nice to think that the he and the Wilpons put to bed the past in that meeting they had last month. I’m sure the Mets would love Beltran to go into the HOF someday as a Met and the best way of having that happen would be to return to Queens.

                And hey… since it isn’t our money… is there anyone better to waste a third year on?

14 comments:

Kevin said...

Obviously it's hard to tell at this point but what kind of package would we need to start will to get a Bautista deal rolling? Montero & Plawecki/Puello?

Do you think Toronto holds any resentment after how poorly that trade worked out for them last year? I'm not sure I'd be too happy if my secretary tells me Sandy is on the line for another trade rape.

Christopher said...

The Blue Jays only major league needs are at 2B and C. While at the minor league level they're pretty bare after all the trades last season.

Could we sell them on Tejada's ability to play 2B? I don't think so.

Murphy would be a logical choice to send over there. However a straight Murphy for Bautista trade would be adding an additional $6MM of payroll while filling the OF hole but opening the 2B hole.

(I'm sorry but I do not believe at this point that Flores can handle 2B)

Christopher said...

How about Murphy, Plawecki, Montero for Bautista and Gose?

Mack Ade said...

Teams don't hold against other teams for the decisions they made.

'We' traded them the Cy Young winner. We did our part.

Kevin said...

Yeah but from Day 1, it was widely regarded that we made out really well with this trade and Toronto made a poor trade. Syndergaard was the major factor that tipped the scale in our favor but he's been even better than advertised. Then combined with Dickey's lackluster season, it could go down as one of the worst trades ever. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth if I was trying to deal with the same team a year later.

Kevin said...

Gose stinks. And I would think that Gose would be the logical replacement for Rajai Davis or Bautista since I believe Rasmus is their only remaining outfielder, unless you want to count Melky, and Rasmus is about to hit free agency next year. This is why I would think we would need to send them an outfielder (and no, Kirk nieuwenhuis doesn't count). Maybe Valdespin.

Chris said...

I think Bautista would be great. Davis, Montero, den Dekker for Bautista. Davis is a classic change of scenery case and he could play 1b and DH.

RICARDO said...

EYJ AT 2B?

Charley said...

You always have to overpay for a legit ML starter. Especially if it's a number 1 starter. Always. Toronto had to overpay: the mistake is the gamble in a 37 year old. Yes he's a knuckleballer, but he also throws it as hard as he can.

I still believe the Mets best option is to spend some cash in free agency and keep their system in tact as much as possible. The mets position prospects are 1/3 years away. They could easily field a homegrown playoff team in 2/3 years.

They just need to fill in the gaps until then.

Mack Ade said...

Kevin, that's Toronto's fault, not Sandy Alderson. Alderson held out for the right deal and got it. Toronto wanted Dickey to win right away and it didn't pan out

Mack Ade said...

Let me say this...

The Mets have the players to get Bautista without breaking up the core future pitching

Mack Ade said...

I'm sticking to my guns.

Leave second base alone. Daniel Murphy is not one of the problems on this team.

Michael S. said...

It's not whether or not it's a problem. It's what Murphy can return in trade versus his value to the team.

Herb G said...

Kevin - it is regarded that we made out way better because imagination always seems better than reality. They shouldn't have expected Dickey to repeat or exceed his Cy Young performance. They got a 14 win season. And they will have a better than average, major league quality pitcher for years to come. No real doubt about that.

Meanwhile, we have a hope . . actually 2 hopes. In his first major league season, d'Arnaud barely got over the Mendoza line. Sure he has promise, but it is still only promise. And Syndergaard looks really good . . but he too is only promise. Anything can happen on his way to potential stardom. Lets not judge the trade until all the results are in.