10/19/13

Mack Ade – Morning Report – 10-19-13 – 40-man, Jose Abreu, KlawChat, Tim Lincecum, Brandon Phillips

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Here’s the Mets current 40-man roster –

Players on DL – Edgin, Harvey, Hefner, Mejia, Parnell, Rice, Santana, Davis

Pending Free Agents – Aardsman, Byrdak, Feliciano, Francisco, Harang, Hawkins, Matsuzaka,

Pitchers – Black, Familia, Gee, Germen, Robles, Niese, Torres, Wheeler, Atchison

Catchers – d’Arnaud, Centeno, Recker

Infielders – Duda, Flores, Lutz, Murphy, Satin, Tejada, Tovar, Turner, Wright, Quintanilla

Outfielders – Brown, den Dekker, Lagares, Nieuwenhuis, Puello, Valdespin, Young

                Mack – There is a chance any combination of Harang, Hawkins, and Matsuzaka could be resigned. In addition, I’m not that confident that Atchison, Lutz, Santana, Quintanilla, or Brown will be retained. Lastly, one must anticipate Edgin, Mejia, Rice, and Davis coming off the DL by opening day.

 

One more post about 1B Jose Abreu, who is signing a $68mil contract with the Chicago White Sox.

All of us that participate here on The Mack’s Mets Report wish we had a better solution to the first base problem that currently exists… and yes, the White Sox have had success in the past signing ball players out of Cuba (Jose Contreras, Alexei Ramirez, Dayan Viciedo)… but none of this guarantees that someone will be able to hit major league pitching. His defense is questionable and he comes to America much older than the Cubans I jut mentioned in this paragraph did.

The contract is six years long. You can’t pay this kind of money for that long to an untested product. Winning the MVP in some Cuban League isn’t even AAA ball.

I applaud the White Sox for stepping up, but I also applaud the Mets for not getting involved in this foolishness. So be it if he turns out to be a star, but the odds are with me.

(Alan (Austin, TX) - How valuable do you see Jose Dariel Abreu? Bowden says 70 hit and 70 power. Agree? Any other thoughts on him?  -  Klaw: Those grades are way off.)

 

 

Chris (NYC) - Mets get Jose Bautista for Montero, Matz, and Plawecki...we close? Bautista's injuries have to be concerning.

Klaw - You're not close. You're playing the delusional Mets fan.

Jeff (NY) - Still Sanchez over Syndergaard? I know you go based on ceiling, but does probability start to factor in now?

Klaw - No, I can't stay with that, seeing Sanchez' delivery and potential injury risk. Syndergaard doesn't have Sanchez' offspeed stuff, but he has to be as low a risk for an arm injury as any major starter prospect in baseball. Fix Sanchez and we can talk again.

 

Andrew Baggarly of CSNBayArea.com reports that Tim Lincecum is not expected to re-sign with the Giants before hitting free agency. –

                Mack – This could be good news for the Mets and every other team in baseball. The Giants have attempted to re-sign him with a new 2-yr. deal, but it looks like it will take at least three years to get this done. I know you’re thinking rotation here, but I can’t think of anyone more that I would like to replace Bobby Parnell with (in the closer role) than Lincecum. The problem is he just may not consider himself a reliever yet and that could poison any deal I would orchestrate.  

 

John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Reds could try to trade Brandon Phillips this offseason.

                Mack – The bad news is he will play 2013 as a 33-yr. old. Also, his existing contract is $11mil-2014, $12mil-2015, $13mil-2016, $14mil-2017

The good news is he is a second baseman that went 18-HR, 103-RBI this past season. You could probably put to rest this position until Dilson Herrera comes of age in 2017.

The Reds seem motivated especially after Phillips called the owner of the team a liar. This would have to either take place after a signing of Cuban infielder Alexander Guerrero or a deal with a team that included a replacement second baseman.

My guess a Daniel Murphy + pitching prospect could get this done… if… the Mets were willing to pay the entire contract. Yeah I know… Alderson… long term contract…

As to him calling the owner of the team a liar, we could supply an endless amount of fodder here.

Your call…

 

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9 comments:

Justin M. said...

I thought Chris' package for Bautista is pretty fair. I'd be squeamish parting with more than that.

greg b said...

Hope we don't get phillips or bautista.If where going to trade top prospects i don't want to trade for 33 yr olds.

Charley said...

I wouldn't even part with that for Bautista.

Michael Scannell said...

The Reds can keep BP and Id only take Bautista on the cheap now. Pass in both.

Oh yea, Keith Law is an ahole.

Sam said...

That's still a lot for Joey Bats, especially considering his age and injury problems. Hard to see the Blue Jays doing better than that without it being an overpayment.

Mack Ade said...

(Charley is in shutdown mode...)

Charley said...

Why any met fan would even ask Klaw a question is beyond me. The guy hates the Mets. I'd only trade four young, good prospects for a Stanton or Cargo type player. One that has youth himself.

Why trade away so much youth for the back few years of a players peak? Very few players can continue to wake up and hit like Moises Alou did or Beltran is doing now. The steroid era is over. 35-40 year olds are not the same as they were 10 years ago.

The Rays have the best model going. Pick your franchise guy(Longoria), sign him long term, and everyone else is traded before free agency for multiple high end prospects.

The Mets have Wright and young pitching, that's it. They aren't at the stage yet to where they need to deal anyone. They need to keep their young players and deal some of them later on.

Next off season, when the rotation is Harvey, Wheeler, Thor, and Montero, that's when Niese and Gee need to be traded for two separate but good to great packages of young prospects. At that point, pitchers like Matz and Fulmer might be ready to join the team anyway.

They'll have a great young rotation, other pitchers still to come, and yet even more high end players entering the system through those trades. Pawlecki, Puello, and possibly Nimmo could be ready too.

2014, they need to sign some bats to man the corner outfield spots and a SS. They should be a good team. But they won't win in the playoffs without Harvey as their number one, especially with a sub 90 million payroll.

Gary Seagren said...

There's NO way Sandy would make either of those deals and he shouldn't. Lets remember the 2 big deals he's made were age for youth and there both looking pretty good right now but the big question that remains is has the FO made the right calls in their draft picks because if they did we could be looking at Cardinal like future if not we could be looking more like the Yanks (wow have their recent drafts sucked) going forward w/o the deep pockets.

Michael Scannell said...

The Rays? They make pretty bridesmaids but never the bride. No reason to make the team the New York David Wrights and continually circle seven guys around him. One or two more marquee hitters and then we may have something.