2/27/18

Tom Brennan - PLAYERS' WORKOUTS: SIMPLE QUESTIONS

Tom Brennan 
PLAYERS' WORKOUTS: SIMPLE QUESTIONS


William Shakespeare once asked himself something PRETTY IMPORTANT:
"To work out...or not to work out...THAT is the question."
The unhappy injury recap: Yo Cespedes misses months with leg injuries.  Michael Conforto misses months with a shoulder rip.  Thor with a lat rip – more months lost. 
TJ Rivera is not even a pitcher and misses months due to Tommy John surgery.  Lagares misses months with diving injuries.  Neil Walker missed several weeks with a hamstring injury.  Jose Reyes used to miss lots of time with assorted leg injuries. 
David Wright, an avid workout guy, misses tons of time due to stenosis, perhaps aggravated by the workouts?  Steve Matz bulked up last off season, then got hurt twice.

And on and on.

One has to ask oneself a simple, short question….WHY?

And, was this injury stuff the norm back in the good old days, when guys played, but didn’t work out?

I decided to look at an unscientific sample of guys, and decided that no, apparently it was NOT the norm.

Of course, we have the standard bearers of durability of yore: Lou Gehrig and Cal Ripken. 

To my knowledge, both got most of their conditioning playing in games, not in the weight room.

Willie Mays?  The Say Hey Kid missed just 40 games in one 13 year stretch – he played the game hard, but did the workouts that did not happen keep him healthier?

Hank Aaron?  77 games missed – a lot? No – it was over a 16 year stretch.  I don’t think he worked out much either.

Stan THE MAN Musial?  From 1943 thru 1955, he missed a total of 15 games.  I don’t think he was doing 500 pound deadlifts in his spare time.

Mel Ott?  In a 14 year stretch, the great Otter missed just 82 games, and in only 2 of those seasons did he miss more than 6 games.  Can't picture him working out to strengthen his core.

Jimmie Fox?  In a 12 year stretch, he missed 86 games – meaning he played in 24 of every 25 games over those 14 years.  Smart like a fox - stayed out of the gym, most likely.

Babe Ruth? He was more injury-prone, but from 1920 through 1931, he had 6 seasons where he either played them all or missed 2 or 3 games.  At age 25, he missed 12 games, 44 games missed at age 27, 56 missed at age 30, and 19 missed at age 34 – but not likely due to an extreme workout regimen. (Amazing lesser-known Babe stats unrelated to this article: in 1916 and 1917, he threw more than 320 innings both years, won 47 games, and had an ERA of 1.88. Wow.)

So, is it right to ask players if their workout regimens are hugely counter-productive? 
I remember the days of skinny guys who sure seemed less prone to injuries.  And Jay Bruce has been pretty durable, even if not like the old timers (excluding the Babe) above - Bruce has averaged a fine 151 games over the past 8 seasons – I wonder if he works out less than the other guys and is just naturally strong? 

What say you, reader?  Is less working out much more beneficial to durability?  Are intense workouts simply an invitation to extended periods of injury?



BTW:

THOR ROUNDING INTO SHAPE:  only 11 pitches of 100 MPH or more in his 2 innings yesterday.  Wazzup wit' dat??  

Clearly, he needs to get his velocity up...it will take a few weeks of getting stretched out for him to hit 110.  Let's remain patient.

16 comments:

Tom Brennan said...

Mack, my concern is leg pulls sometimes beget leg pulls - we've seen Cespedes last year (ouch, ouch, yea, verily, thrice ouch), and Reyes in years past. I recall Keith Hernandez getting a quad pull, coming back and reinjuring it right away. Hence, my follow up article at 2:00 PM. Healthy is better, nice and easy does it.

My knee was a little cranky this morning, BTW, so I ask Mickey to hold me out of today's game.

Tom Brennan said...

Mack, BTW, weren't you a bat boy for Mel Ott? That's the rumor :)

Mack Ade said...

I like Shakespeare. Didn't he write that Jack Ryan series?

I have moved on from last year's aches, pains, and woes. It is hard not to be positive so far this spring.

And I do not think any of the early dings are more than that. Just the usual happenings on the usual subject.

Mack Ade said...

Tom -

His father.

Tom Brennan said...

Ha Ha - say hi to Abner Doubleday for me when you see him

Mack Ade said...

Dom Smith - strained quad,

Jay Bruce - DH today

Juan Lagares - strained hammy

Tim Tebow - available to hit today

Jacob DeGrom - sore back

Yoenis Céspedes - mild sore shoulder.

TexasGusCC said...

FWIW, Curtis Granderson says he doesn’t believe in working out either, the mass slows you down. Too, Reyes had to learn to run differently, whatever that means.

In yesterday’s game, the 93 mph change up that Syndergaard threw to Marwin Gonzalez was one of the best pitches I saw him throw. Came in straight as a string and just as the bat was getting into the zone, the pitch died and fell about ten inches. Gonzalez had no chance. The second best pitch was a slider that looked like a high fastball, only to dart down and in to a righty and made him just stand there.

Yesterday, Syndergaard looked the best I ever saw him throw. No wonder Callaway was smiling when he hit the rookie the other day. Can you imagine having those pitches in your mind and worrying about getting hit too?

Reese Kaplan said...

You forgot Brandon Nimmo's collapsed lung

Mack Ade said...

Altuve said that he could throw that curve that struck him out 100 times and he would strike out 100 times.

Mack Ade said...

Reese -

Really?

Not on official Mets list

Mack Ade said...

Reese -

Double checked... no collapsed lung for Nimmo

Tom Brennan said...

Only the Mets collapse - but hopefully not this year.

TexasGus, hopefully Syndergaard will be the best pitcher in baseball in 2018

Mack Ade said...

Per Chris Soto - it was partially collapsed in early July

TexasGusCC said...

Callaway has to be just tingly watching that.

Mike Freire said...

Excessive bulk (fat or muscle) isn't conducive to success in baseball.....we don't need Offensive Linemen in there, right?

Body weight exercises, functional strength in the core and flexibility are far more important, IMO. Ideally, Yoga and Pilates are more relevant then bench press records, etc.

Tom Brennan said...

Mike, great sluggers like Mays, Aaron, Foxx and Ott - their average size and listed weight? 5'10+" 178 pounds. Smallish, but they did fairly well.